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Fox News Story on Tiny Guns:

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Booming firearms sales driven by 'tiny guns,' conceal-carry laws | Fox News

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She should have included mentioning small .38 Special revolvers. I'll bet if had an afternoon with Hollie, I might make a smal-concealed-revolver person out of her.

Just came home with a new Walther PPS 9.

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My wife, daughter and I have been pocket carrying LCP's for three years now. We are well pleased.

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380's ? I feel slighted ..

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JR

I don't think it's the "tiny guns" that's causing booming sales. I think it's the fact that most folks fear that their own Guvmunt doesn't want them to have one. Along with the fear that knowing how "open" our borders are, the enemy could be anywhere, and they want to feel that they can protect themselves and their family. "Tiny guns" are certainly attractive to new women shooters,........well okay, I do have a "tiny gun" myself.

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Tiny guns rock! Don't pass up an opportunity to pick them up. Can never have too many tiny guns, rather, not enough pockets.

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Thumbs up for the LCP! I don't leave home without it,,,,that is unless I'm carrying something bigger!

That's not a tiny gun.....















This is a tiny gun...

Love my LCP, love my 360 too, but it's significantly tougher to pocket carry here in Hotlanta.

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Besides several J Frames,
I do have a runt Kahr.

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From the article:

Historically, the .380 has had a reputation for poor quality that earned it the derisive nickname of “Saturday Night Special.” In the 1960s and '70s, the tiny weapons were cheap and associated with criminal acts. Subpar materials and production made them susceptible to accidental discharge incidents and jamming.

I like this part, where the author derides an entire caliber due to one particularly infamous pistol manufactured to fire that caliber . . .

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I remember when "Tiny Houses" used to be called trailers or utility sheds. I also remember when "Tiny Guns" used to be called Mouse Guns.
But then again, I remember when a half gallon was a half gallon not 1.75 liters.......

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I can sell every 38 snubbie I get almost immediately to my wife's friends. They want something they can carry in their purse and also something they don't have to think about operating wise should the need ever arise.
Jim

I have a Model 60-7 that, while not tiny, easily fits in a pocket holster. Draws easy and I hope I never have to use it. Only "tiny" gun I need.

Well said

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JR

Well I feel the size of the hole in the barrel is the first intimidating thing the bad guy sees. Talk about first impressions? If the gun is in stainless or nickel finish the bigger the gun the better. Pocket guns are ok but when evil comes a calling to me bigger is better.

The last visits t my LGS In my ares the selling pistols are 380 acp plastic pistols.

But I have always wondered what damage a 22 WMR could do in a tiny revolver?

Want to see what it looks like from the bad guys point of view? Watch Dirty Harry and pause it at the bank robbers point of view.

I have sincere doubts that the average woman will ever enjoy shooting .38 caliber J-frames. OTOH, I think it would be easy to get women to handle snubbie K-frames. But buying them for their simplicity and ability to drop into a purse - oh, yeah, THAT I can see.

Admittedly, the Ks are heaver and harder to conceal than the Js but they are far easier to shoot, and to shoot well.

As for J-frames, the only ones that I think a woman would even come close to becoming fans of are the all steel versions. Airweights and Scandiums are just nasty for almost anyone's hands, especially a woman's.

Now, before you flame me with examples, I am sure there are women out there happily toting their J frames every day, and maybe enjoying shooting them, too. Those would be in the minority, but I am sure there examples so my generalization is not meant to be the ONLY story on the subject.

I have carried J-frames for years and years. Switching to K frame snubs was a recent decision and I'm very pleased with the result.

There is a world of difference between "tiny guns", however, and even J-frame types of revolvers. The little .380s extant today, never mind .25s or .22s, are ever so much smaller and lighter than J frames and when they say Colt, S&W, Ruger, SIG, Kahr, Beretta, etc., you know it's a quality gun and will do its job.

Tiny guns are still mouse guns. The size and calibers have not changed. The big change is the found in the rules of carrying - people everywhere have permission and, as a corollary, people everywhere are looking for concealment guns. Modern, casual dress lends itself to mouse guns quite readily; not so much for larger tools.

Back in the day I recall that Saturday Night Specials included a host of small, cheap handguns, and cheap .38s were included. There were a number of pot metal, small .38 caliber revolvers available, many from Spain or elsewhere in Europe. I took umbrage with the section quoted above, too.

Speaking of tiny guns, besides various J frames, I have to admit to having some real babies. My smallest is a .22 Short caliber North American Arms mini-revolver. It's hard to cock but it's a great deep cover gun if that's where you find yourself. I'm not in that business so it stays in the safe. My two High Standard .22 WRM derringers are tiny, too. Tough triggers but they're great hideout guns - and we have a Forum member who owes his life to one of those. Next up would be .25 ACP pistols; I presently have three, having sold off one or two over the years. The smallest is a PSA Baby Browning (jammamatic now but it will be fixed), then a CZ Duo from 1944 (made in German occupied Czechoslovakia), and finally a Beretta Model 950-BS (which I carried ceaselessly for 20 years). I had some of those tiny .380s, too, but I sold them off for various reasons. So I'm not exactly anti-mouse gun.......

As I stated above my wife all my wife's girlfriends carry 38 snubbies and they have all shot them. The majority are alloy framed examples and none of them bought these because they're pleasant to shoot. They bought them for protection and the fact that they're lightweight and easily fit in their purses is a plus to them.
Jim

Oh really- you think so???? Probably built better than the car she drives.

Which means we are in complete agreement. Carried a lot, shot a little - makes total sense to me. Having carried my 642 for the past ten years or so, maybe a little less than ten, I am in complete agreement with the concept of not pleasant to shoot but the lightweight makes carrying them a big plus.

Switching to a snubbie K frame wouldn't be easy if the gun was to be carried in a purse. In a belt holster it's no big deal - but I admit I notice it way more than the J frame that used to be in my pocket.

PS:

That SIG 380 pictured above is, of course, one of the most beautiful handguns ever made. IMO. But it would be hard pressed to eliminate the reputation earned for the .380 caliber by the cheap little pocket .380s that were commonly seen back in the day, never mind other cheap guns as I mentioned earlier. Right or wrong, 50 years ago or so when Ralph Nader personally destroyed the Chevrolet Corvair in his book "Unsafe at Any Speed" his book had no impact on the Cadillac Eldorado. Think of the SIG .380 as that Caddie.....

That's no BRYCO . . .

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I find it hard to believe that sales of long guns are down, unless you're talking about guns longer than a MSR. I'd also like to know their definition of large-caliber handguns.

Do you remember when they put those plastic spout thingies on the half gallon vodka bottles so it wouldn't come out as fast? Good thing THOSE were easily removed...

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+1. I find it quite difficult to believe that sales of AR's and AK's are down?!?

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But then, what do I know?

My tiny gun:

Interestingly enough, I was browsing through Bill Jordan's "No Second Place Winner" last night and noted a picture of a Chief Special. Jordan said it was fine little gun...and would be ideal in ".22 RFM".

Some of the modern ammo (Speer Gold Dot) makes quite an impression on ballistic gelatin - if you ever are attacked by ballistic gelatin.

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A J frame snubby or a Sig P290RS work for me. Funny how some folks are just realizing that good things come in small packages

I picked up an NAA Sidewinder.

He talks 22WMR velocity at 1:50 and 22lr at3:20

https://youtu.be/_Zhr88F0J40

I finally got around to tearing this one down and gave it a good cleaning. It's 94 years old and I doubt if it had ever been detail stripped. Shoots great and a lot of fun too. It does not like Blazer with aluminum shells, otherwise it shoots anything smoothly.
Peace,
gordon

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I like your signature (peace) and the ol' gun...

Ronnie Reagan stacked us up on peace and peace it was!

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Gonna buy a baby glock as my next gun best because of what Fox said about this.