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Just saw an ad on my WA state Armslist for a Taurus Curve and it got me thinking....did anyone ever actually buy one?
As a former marketing guy (now retired) I'd hate to think it was dreamed up by the Taurus Marketing Dept. as a solution to a need that doesn't exist, and never did. And I wonder what kind of research they did and how much money the p*ssed away on research that "proved" it would be a marketing hit? (And how much money went down the drain to bring it to market?)
Gun Tests gave it a fairly poor review; I never see anything about it anywhere on any of the gun forums (but I don't read the Taurus one regularly I'll admit), so I'm assuming it just sank into the void and the folks who bought one are scratching their head wondering, "Why did I ever buy THAT?"
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There was good review of the Curve in a fairly recent edition of the
American Rifleman magazine. I'll have to look through my stacks of
magazines to see which one.
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I have seen them for sale at a couple of local shops but was never curious enough to ask to see one. No idea if they've ever sold one or not.
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Just saw an ad on my WA state Armslist for a Taurus Curve and it got me thinking....did anyone ever actually buy one?
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No idea if they've ever sold one or not.
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They aren't MA-complaint so I've never seen one for sale in my moonbat state. Come to think of it, I haven't seen one for sale anywhere.
I can't imagine that demand is very high. How many people want to be openly laughed at or ridiculed at their club or range? That's probably a very small market.
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Another "strange" attempt by Taurus to create a market Did you ever see or read about their "View" revolver? I've never owned a Taurus, but I've heard good reviews over the years of their Model 85 snub nose, and Beretta clone. Why do they seem to stray into the weird world
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As a lefty I'd be afraid I'd shoot myself with one.
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I've had both an 85 and a PT99 (92 clone with adjustable sights). Both were great. Also had 908 and 917 and both of them worked just fine....but they were very standard 92ish type pistols. Good Beretta design and acceptable Brazilian manufacture. Nothing fancy.
Could never understand the idea behind the "see-through" concept and the curve idea was a solution looking for a problem.
Hope they learned their lesson.
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I know of 2 that were sold.....twice!
Few months ago my lgs had 2 used ones (meaning someone bought them originally) later both were gone (someone bought them again)
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Just as silly as the model they added wings too.
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My LGS got one in, back when they 1st came out and sent it back. They said they'd order one if someone specifically wants one, but won't order any just for 'stock'.
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Taurus experiments marketing novel guns. As expected most flop but the successes have been more than profitable enough to pay for the experiments. To me the Judge and its descendants are an idiotic concept that only the ignorant would buy. They've made a bundle off that experiment.
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Taurus experiments marketing novel guns. As expected most flop but the successes have been more than profitable enough to pay for the experiments. To me the Judge and its descendants are an idiotic concept that only the ignorant would buy. They've made a bundle off that experiment.
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Call me ignorant then. I have a Taurus Judge and I love it. To each his own.
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How many people want to be openly laughed at or ridiculed at their club or range? That's probably a very small market.
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Shooters I know have better sense and better manners than to laugh at someone else's gun, at the range or anywhere else.
As far as the Curve goes, it's designed specifically for concealed carry, not as a target pistol or a range gun. To put a finer point on it, it's a pocket pistol. You buy one, become proficient with it, then tuck it away out of sight until it's needed. Its main disadvantage seems to be that it's a right-handed little pistol...not practical for lefties to carry.
The NRA reviewer in September of 2015 seemed to like it, and it was the NRA's Gun of the Week.
Whether it'll eventually succeed in the market is another story.
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Just as silly as the model they added wings too.
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That they copied from HK and it actually makes practical sense. Makes it much easier and faster to chamber. As you grab the serrations and pull back your fingers stop at the wings. Gives a much more positive grip. Doesn't matter if you're sitting at the range trying to put many bullets into one hole. Does matter on a 2 way range where your hands or the gun may be wet or muddy a little or for whatever reason slippery.
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Looks like the same guys designed the cell phone .380.
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It doesn't even have sights.
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It doesn't even have sights.
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It's a CCW, close range, belly button, get off me weapon. If you have to get in your range shooting stance, proper grip, sight in, your dead.
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It doesn't even have sights.
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Take another look at the little pistol.
It doesn't need sights...it has a built in laser.
Plus two white lines on the rear of the slide to help line up on the target.
The American Rifleman says it does +/- 2.00-inch groups at 7 yards, shooting five consecutive groups, with three different types of ammo. That'd be good shootin' for me with a Model 36 snubbie. Or even with a 36 3-inch (I'm no marksman).
Again, this is a pocket pistol. You aren't gonna go shooting IDPA with the thing, right?
I personally wouldn't buy a Curve. Well, probably wouldn't, simply because I'm a traditionalist...a Luddite, if you will. Now...if I could pick one up for a couple of bills, I just might. Never say never.
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It doesn't even have sights.
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Neither does the Colt 1911 agent
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How many of you would carry it and protect your loved ones with it? Would you carry 1911 agent?
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Who would own a pistol made by a company that has a massive recall because some of their pistols just go off.
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I'm a south paw, fired a guy's at the ranges Curve. He told me he's having good results, a few stove pipes, but less as he's putting more rounds thru it. I put a box thru to help break it in. Round count when he handed it to me was 250. No FTF, FTE and a pleasant gun to fire at 2 yards. If they produce a south paw, I'm in. Like any CCW weapon, you got to run alot thru em to trust em.
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Do you really believe they just go off? Really?? Well then, that bogeyman is pulling them triggers. All due respect.
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Nope is legit. Do a starch for Taurus lawsuits.
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There was good review of the Curve in a fairly recent edition of the
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AR also gave a good review to the Remington R51. You see how that worked out.
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Neither nut for different reasons
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I did before I responded to your post. The lawyers got $9 million in fee's! People who never handled handguns bought Taurus's cause the price is lower. Load em, play quick draw, drop em or pull the trigger to see how far back it goes. BANG!!!! Call lawyer after cops write up a report. Owner says, Gun is junk, it was just sitting there and went BOOM. Not my fault.
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Just DON'T buy one. Jeez!!!!
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AR also gave a good review to the Remington R51. You see how that worked out.
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The AR does try to support innovative new products and
designs and that can hardly be considered a fault. The market
niche for a new product may be small but if, as brought up
elsewhere in this thread, you don't want one then don't buy
one. Sadly too many gun owners seem to think that they can
make some statement about their status by bashing certain
brands of guns. It isn't rocket science to conclude that maybe,
just maybe, the AR receives selected samples of guns to
review. They have one gun to test, it does well in their tests.
What do you expect them to say about it?
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Recall on the curve also. Some of them went out without the caliber stamp. How's that for QC.
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Silly concept. I would not have one if it was given to me.
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Do you really believe they just go off? Really??
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There are many unexplained phenomena in this world, Things That Man Is Not Meant To Know.
For instance, an owl's shadow crossed in front of my car the other night. The next morning, one of my tires was flat!
I see things moving at the very edge of my peripheral vision, but when I look, there's nothing there.
I have verified that the weather vane on top of my house will spin freely, but when the wind blows, it does not move at all. I don't understand this.
I know for a fact that my dogs make funny faces behind my back. I mean, I know this, I just know it.
I have observed many strange things in my lifetime, and could go on with this list, but you get the point, don't you?
Well, don't you?
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Call me ignorant then. I have a Taurus Judge and I love it. To each his own.
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No offense intended. I bet I own a gun or a few guns that look ignorant to you. My point was that as a collector of traditional guns I can not predict which of Taurus' odd ball ideas will be accepted by the market. Their L frame size 5 shot moon clip loading .45 acp Tracker looked like a home run to me. It flopped.
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There are many unexplained phenomena in this world, Things That Man Is Not Meant To Know.
For instance, an owl's shadow crossed in front of my car the other night. The next morning, one of my tires was flat!
I see things moving at the very edge of my peripheral vision, but when I look, there's nothing there.
I have verified that the weather vane on top of my house will spin freely, but when the wind blows, it does not move at all. I don't understand this.
I know for a fact that my dogs make funny faces behind my back. I mean, I know this, I just know it.
I have observed many strange things in my lifetime, and could go on with this list, but you get the point, don't you?
Well, don't you?
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Native Americans say you must offer the owl tobacco to ward off bad luck. Didn't you know that?
As long as he doesn't call your name!
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One note to my original post...I wasn't exactly bashing the pistol, just wondering what happened to it. It gets virtually no mentions on any of the firearms boards I read, haven't seen a review after the original "glowing" ones by the gun mags who depend on Taurus advertising for their livelihood, and why would I want a gun only good at three yards when I can have a gun that works just fine at three yards but also shoot accurately at 10 or 15 yards, like my Shield (and I don't think I need to get into a target stance to make the Shield go bang way up close.)
Anyway, I was curious and thank everyone who had a perspective and shared it. It's all good learning and I picked up some stuff I hadn't thought of before about it.
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Saw one at Academy a few days ago. Still think it looks like a staplegun. I got no problems with Taurus, but I don't want one.
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Uhh .... it's a Taurus. I've been burnt before & there too many other makes out there that don't have a reputation of questionable quality and/or reliability.
Think about it, how many LE, Military or Competitive shooters use Taurus. Not many & there's a reason and it's not high cost.....in fact "low cost" is really the only selling point for Taurus; they are inexpensive, but the reliability when the "chips may be down" is just not there.
Just my opinion.
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I saw one...put it in hand..not made for my gorilla hands. Just felt wrong to me. I also question the muzzle design. The rifling ends squared with the barrel,but the bottom goes out another 1/4" or so while the top ends with the rifling. Thats how they get the curved shape.. just seems to me that it would adversely effect accuracy.
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Reliability just not there huh? Anyone who has read the G&A tests of
single stack 9mms would have seen that the Taurus 709 Slim was one
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Reliability just not there huh? Anyone who has read the G&A tests of
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What Kozmic said. I've handled one at the lgs. I would say my hands are medium size and my index finger would end up past the trigger guard and a little too close to the muzzle...about the ugliest gun I've seen but they seem to sell. Regards Rich
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Not much a fan of small .380 in general, and the Curve seems to have most of the things I dislike about them like an absence of good sights, weird trigger and ergos.
Not so much a knock against the company, I have the View for example, and I really like the thing....but I'm biased toward revolvers for small guns.
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