Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics
o

Notices

Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics Post Your General Gun Topics and Non-S&W Gun and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-02-2016, 11:50 AM
dmbaile2 dmbaile2 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Alternatives to the Ruger SP101

I am in the market for a small revolver for home defense. I am going the revolver rout because it is something my wife can pick up and intuitively use.

We handled a Ruger SP101 3”, 357, the other day and it felt like the perfect size for her, it had a little weight to it which I feel will be great for recoil when firing 38 special, which will likely be the primary load. After handling that gun we have ruled out a Ruger GP101, and the S&W 686 due to size in hand.

But before purchasing I just wanted to run it buy some people, are there any other good options in this exact size and caliber weapon. I would prefer to buy S&W, but have only identified the Model 60 as potentially being the same size, I can’t find one locally. Can anyone verify this?

I am also happy to buy used, and it looks like the S&W Model 19 could be a contender, any other ideas? I don’t mind spending some extra money on a quality piece. But I would like to keep it under $1k.

Thanks for any help.

Last edited by dmbaile2; 04-02-2016 at 11:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #2  
Old 04-02-2016, 11:54 AM
Old cop Old cop is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,782
Likes: 4,206
Liked 15,128 Times in 4,142 Posts
Default

You might consider a snub Model 10 in either round or square butt. Easy to handle and plenty of weight for recoil.
__________________
Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 04-02-2016, 11:58 AM
CAJUNLAWYER's Avatar
CAJUNLAWYER CAJUNLAWYER is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On da Bayou Teche
Posts: 18,407
Likes: 18,440
Liked 58,599 Times in 9,622 Posts
Default

Are you sure it was a 3" barrel. I don't think Ruger manes a new SP101 with that length. Check the Ruger site for their 4.25" barrel SP101 which in my opinion would be the absolute perfect weapon for the use you describe. If your budget is less than 1000 that leaves a LOT of choices-Look at the new model 66 for instance (for that matter look for a used pre lock 66) I think for what you describe that stainless is the way to go as you are not always worrying about keeping it oiled and spotless.
FWIW I have both the pre lock 66 as well as an SP101 snubby. I also have the SP101 with the 4.25" barrel but in .22 and I can see where it would be perfect in .357. Ths is a question with no wrong answers-pick the one that feels best. Oh and the 686 and GP100's ain't no slouches either-just big.
(I got's me a few of those as well )
__________________
Forum consigliere
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:01 PM
kaaskop49 kaaskop49 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Demon-class planet
Posts: 7,404
Likes: 29,169
Liked 8,461 Times in 3,772 Posts
Default

Welcome to the Forum. Always great to have new members, especially those asking about small-frame magnum revolvers, a particular love of mine.

The Model 60 would be the closest approximation to the SP101. It is a few ozs lighter and the double action is superior to that of the Ruger. I own both in the shorter bbl versions, and prefer the 60.

There was a recent expansive thread on the SP101. Those who posted (me too) acknowledged the Ruger's shortcomings as to weight and trigger pull, yet we are not disposed to selling them or regret having done so.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:02 PM
tayninh69 tayninh69 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Middle Georgia
Posts: 91
Likes: 90
Liked 81 Times in 44 Posts
Default

I believe a Colt Detective Special is about the same size as the SP101. A three inch will be much harder to find and higher priced than the std barrel.

You did say used and 'any other' ideas.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #6  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:06 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

The Ruger SP101 would be a solid choice. For S&W's, you might look at a 640. If going with the ruger, I would recommend the spurless hammered DAO version.

If I'm reading your post correcting, it sounds like this gun is primarily going to be a home defense weapon for your untrained wife. A small revolver will almost assuredly fit her hand better than larger models, so the little ruger or a j-frame makes sense. Also, in an actual home defense situation, you can be assured she would be extremely scared if not completely panic. In such cases, you really do not want a gun she can cock to single action.

I wouldn't even rule out the lighter models(like S&W 642/442 or Ruger LCR) should she actually want to carry it around the home or even get a concealed carry permit at some point. Plus they are less expensive. They are less pleasant to practice with depending on how much range range time you are expecting her to do, but in an actual defense scenario, there will be little difference between the two.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:11 PM
Ross3914 Ross3914 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 291
Likes: 54
Liked 294 Times in 142 Posts
Default

I used to own a SP-101 with a 3" barrel. It's a fine choice.

I've noticed that one potential issue with the K-frames is the trigger reach length. It's just a tad farther out than on the Rugers, and that can make a difference.

I always have thought the perfect sized revolver was the Colt "D" frame (Detective Special, Cobra, Agent, Police Positive Special, etc). The trigger reach, grip, etc makes it great for smaller hands and the sixth shot is nice. They just cost and arm and a leg these days, but if you can find one at a good price it would be worth checking out. The stock grips kinda blow, but like all revolvers, there are good grips out there.

A Ruger Speed Six might be a good choice if you can find one of those. They're lighter than the GP-100/686, with enough heft to absorb recoil. They seem to fit smaller hands, especially in the trigger, than any other medium sized revolver made today.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:27 PM
dmbaile2 dmbaile2 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Thanks for the replies.

To CAJUNLAWYER, the exact model # of the SP101 we held was KSP-331X, if you type that into Google you can find it, and confirm that it is a 3”, maybe it is new to market? Big picture, I think something around the 3-4” range would be ideal.

The situation with my wife is rather delicate. She has never fired a gun, and they scare her. It has literally taken me YEARS to get her to this point, I fear that if I put a lightweight S&W in her hands it will have too much buck and scare her off. On the other side of that, she has held my Colt Trooper 1st Gen with a 6” barrel and a GP101 4” and the size of those guns intimidate her right off the bat.. So I am trying to find something in the middle.. No doubt the GP101 and 686 are great, but this situation is more about my wife’s comfort than my own preference.

I know very little about what may be available on the used market so I appreciate the ideas. I would love to buy another Colt but have you seen the prices of those lately? Wow..

I am also considering a 9mm revolver, maybe that will be a little more tame in a light frame, which they all seem to come in.. But I didn't even know those existed until yesterday, so i have a lot of research to do.

Last edited by dmbaile2; 04-02-2016 at 12:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-02-2016, 12:45 PM
bigwheelzip's Avatar
bigwheelzip bigwheelzip is offline
Absent Comrade
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 12,990
Likes: 17,229
Liked 41,503 Times in 9,146 Posts
Default

Howdy from South Carolina, and welcome to the forum.

You say she "handled" guns, but has she shot them?

As a woman, I know that we tend to gravitate to petite handguns, until we fire them. We never consider that less gun mass means our hands are left to absorb the recoil. Do both of you a favor, and visit a range to rent some different sized guns. For a weapon your not carrying, mass is your friend, and you will enjoy shooting it more. You want your wife to be willing to practice enough to be proficient.

You eliminate other choices because of "size in hand". But were you aware that replacing grips is easily and often done. The 3" and smaller 686 has a round grip frame which accommodates smaller grip profiles. These are three 686's. The left is a stock round grip, the middle is a smaller than stock round grip (Hogue Bantam), the right is a stock square grip.


Last edited by bigwheelzip; 04-02-2016 at 12:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 04-02-2016, 01:16 PM
eveled's Avatar
eveled eveled is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,612
Likes: 3,067
Liked 3,443 Times in 1,365 Posts
Default

I think the sp101 is a fine choice for what you describe. I also think a security or speed six might fit the bill.

You might want to start her with a .22, my wife's house gun is ten shot 617..

Last edited by eveled; 04-02-2016 at 01:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #11  
Old 04-02-2016, 01:21 PM
Cal44 Cal44 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Northern California
Posts: 3,568
Likes: 5,473
Liked 6,418 Times in 1,861 Posts
Default

The 640 is the S&W version of the double action only Sp-101. That's another option, but even harder to find than a 60.

I'm sure you know that a heavier gun is easier to shoot than a lighter one, but your wife might not know this.

Perhaps she would reconsider a GP-100.

IMHO, the GP-100 4 inch version is just about the best home defense revolver going.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 04-02-2016, 03:05 PM
Otreb Otreb is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WA St
Posts: 684
Likes: 285
Liked 912 Times in 366 Posts
Default

The Colt D frames like the Det Special and Police Positives would be a good alternative. Smaller than the K frame S&W and actually about the same size as the Sp101 but adds a round of capacity. They have better sights, and after the mid sixties vintage like this one, they use the same grip frame as the Det Special, enabling smaller stocks if desired.
They shoot very well, too.



Last edited by Otreb; 04-02-2016 at 03:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 04-02-2016, 03:12 PM
clang444 clang444 is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: IL
Posts: 1,854
Likes: 1,023
Liked 3,573 Times in 954 Posts
Default

If the OP is looking for a .38 Special for home defence, the S&W model 10 is never the wrong answer.
__________________
My sgntr is mor thn 30 chrctrs
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #14  
Old 04-02-2016, 03:38 PM
Fishinfool's Avatar
Fishinfool Fishinfool is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Central PA
Posts: 4,550
Likes: 8,201
Liked 11,436 Times in 3,018 Posts
Default

OP, the way you describe your wives general attitude / experience with handguns, I have a feeling any .38 / 9mm is going to be a problem for her the first time she drops the hammer.

If it were me, I would start her out with a good quality .22 RF double action revolver, rubber grips, standard velocity ammo, good hearing protection, and lots of range time. Baby steps as it were, while she learns the fundamentals, and becomes acclimated to firing and handling a handgun.

When her confidence level and abilities improve, time to start looking at a CF weapon. In the meantime, a shooter who is confident in their abilities, and armed with a .22 revolver full of HVHP's is nothing to sneeze at..

Larry
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 04-02-2016, 04:31 PM
oss117 oss117 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 19
Likes: 3
Liked 27 Times in 11 Posts
Default

So we're dealing with a new/reluctant firearm owner who's never shot before and presumably will be sensitive to the blast and recoil.

First rule out any of the lightweight revolvers. No LCR's, Airweights, scandium anything, or the Taurus or Charter Arms equivelants. Any trip to the range will be a "one and done" affair. I say that being a revolver fan.

Second, if it's her gun, then it's her decision.

I know this is a revolver forum, but I would look closely at the Sig Sauer P250 Compact chambered in 380ACP. Model number is 250C-380-B. The recoil will be less than a 38 special to begin with. Being a semi-auto the impulse will be spread out to further soften the blow compared to the sharp rap of a revolver. The slide will be much easier to rack vs. a 9mm or 40S&W. The 3.9" barrel will let the marginal 380acp generate additional velocity. It has a simple double action trigger similar to the SP101, but not quite as heavy. Finally, for nightstand duty, it's magazine contains 3 SP101's worth of ammo.

When you take her to the range, give her a pair of the best ear plugs you can find and cover them up with some good muffs. Take as much of the "blast" out of the experience as you can.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 04-02-2016, 05:03 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

To clarify...Is she actually going to be training regularly or at all or does she just want to have a gun around just in case?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 04-02-2016, 05:09 PM
Old cop Old cop is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,782
Likes: 4,206
Liked 15,128 Times in 4,142 Posts
Default

My wife of 47 years does not like guns, but can handle a revolver if necessary. A recent onset of arthritis in her hands has changed things and our Model 10 snub is doable in single action. She now lacks the strength to pull a double action trigger and is so afraid of autos that they're out of the picture altogether.
__________________
Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-02-2016, 05:23 PM
kozmic's Avatar
kozmic kozmic is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Western New York
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 15,400
Liked 10,827 Times in 3,634 Posts
Default

Welcome from Upstate NY.

I have a 4.2" Ruger SP101 in .357. It's a great gun. Well balanced and an easy shooter. It would definitely work well as a HD. Downside is that it is only a 5 shot. In used guns, the Ruger Security Six is IMHO, among the best designed pistols. I have a 4" (.357) stainless model. It is my "go to" revolver for hiking. I also have a S&W Model 10-5. It's chambered in 38 special. A .38s+P round would be a very effective bedside defensive round.The .357 guns will also shoot .38s.

As to cost. I bought the SP101 new and paid new gun pricing. I bought the Sec Six used (1978 model) in 95+% condition for $ 300 out the door (a steal) and the Model 10-5 (90+%) was right at 400 bucks. There is no reason to pay $1k for a home defense revolver. You can easily get by for half that cost and put the balance into ammo, range time and a nice dinner with your wife.

Good luck and let us know how you make out dm.
__________________
paws for friendship
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-02-2016, 05:23 PM
fiasconva's Avatar
fiasconva fiasconva is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: York County, VA
Posts: 3,766
Likes: 0
Liked 4,903 Times in 1,808 Posts
Default

The model 36 is the blued version of the 60. You may be able to find one of those but I'd check the classifieds here first. Good luck with your search.
__________________
Why duck?? It's a 9mm!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-02-2016, 05:38 PM
BAM-BAM BAM-BAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A Burb of the Burgh
Posts: 14,748
Likes: 1,614
Liked 19,849 Times in 8,772 Posts
Default

Closest to a Ruger 101 would be the S&W 60-10... think micro 686.....but may be a bit hard to come by......

Check out K-frame 3" 64 (.38) or 65 (.357/.38)

But any 3" heavy barrel 36/60 may meet your needs......
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #21  
Old 04-02-2016, 06:44 PM
tops's Avatar
tops tops is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NC, Yadkin County
Posts: 6,209
Likes: 25,453
Liked 8,521 Times in 3,188 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishinfool View Post
OP, the way you describe your wives general attitude / experience with handguns, I have a feeling any .38 / 9mm is going to be a problem for her the first time she drops the hammer.

If it were me, I would start her out with a good quality .22 RF double action revolver, rubber grips, standard velocity ammo, good hearing protection, and lots of range time. Baby steps as it were, while she learns the fundamentals, and becomes acclimated to firing and handling a handgun.

When her confidence level and abilities improve, time to start looking at a CF weapon. In the meantime, a shooter who is confident in their abilities, and armed with a .22 revolver full of HVHP's is nothing to sneeze at..

Larry
This reply should automatically pop up anytime someone ask about how to start a beginning shooter. Larry
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #22  
Old 04-02-2016, 06:49 PM
Texas Star Texas Star is offline
US Veteran
Absent Comrade
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 20,362
Likes: 24,260
Liked 16,154 Times in 7,408 Posts
Default

The Ruger equating to the S&W M-686 is the GP-100, not 101. The SP-101 is the one a bit larger than a J-frame.

I'd look for a J-frame and would NOT buy a DA-only model.

THe S&W M-60-4 is excellent, but holds only five shots and is hard to locate. No longer made. The present version with a lock would work, if the lock doesn't interfere.

Depending on hand size, a stainless K-frame would be good. Model 65 with three-inch barrel and round butt would be ideal, or Model 64 for .38 ammo only. I don't think she'll relish firing .357 ammo.

The barrel a fraction over three inches has been an option on the SP-101 for many years, at least since the late 1980's. Early ones took only .38 ammo. I would not buy a .357 smaller or lighter than the SP-101 with three-inch bbl.

Try round butt Pachmayr grips on the Model 64 or 65.

Women vary widely in what they can shoot. I used to know Jo Anne Hall back when she was both a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and World Champion of the ladies div. in IPSC shooting. She could handle a Colt .45 auto with ease. She was a study in grace and efficiency in using one. Carried a Colt .380 for concealed use. She coached my young son in using the .45 one day in her backyard while my daughter played with her poodle. He told me later that what he learned from her stood him in good stead in combat in Iraq some years later, where he employed 9mm pistols very effectively. The Army gives rather cursory training in pistolcraft to most soldiers not MP's or members of special ops units.

FWIW, one of my favorite fictional characters is Modesty Blaise, in the books. The movies and one TV series were awful. Modesty was a marvelous, very fast shot who could also use a .41 Magnum well at extended ranges. But I'd suggest more gun than her beloved Colt .32 revolver, and she eventually went to a Star PD .45 for routine carry when circumstances didn't require the small size of her MAB .25. But I always suggest a stainless .38 on the J or K frame for real world women who don't know guns well and who will not need more power.

The SP-101 is a fine handgun, but the trigger pull is longer than on J-frames and the action is usually quite heavy. But the heavy mainspring ensures ignition of even tough .357 primers or of some foreign ammo, and my SP is very reliable and quite accurate. In a strong hand, it's a fine gun.
Many women or weak men may need a lighter DA trigger pull. A lot of people have arthritis or neuropathy issues that require a gun that's easy to fire. For them a Walther P-38 or Beretta M-92FS will cycle more easily than will auto pistols based on the Browning locking system. But neither is meant for small hands.

BTW, some French policewomen carried Ruger .38's, maybe even .357's. SP's. Doesn't mean that your lady can, especially if age is a factor, and that's often the case on this board.

I DO NOT suggest Colt revolvers, as they're hard to keep in time and few gunsmiths will now work on them. Too complicated. And the sights are often "off". Otherwise, the Police Positive Special would be ideal with three or four-inch barrel.

And I DO NOT suggest a .22 revolver, as many have VERY sticky extraction. I sold my S&W M-34 in disgust. In a .22, I prefer a Colt Woodsman or a Ruger. The latter is offered in stainless, too. In small .22's, the Beretta M-87 may be the ideal item.

Last edited by Texas Star; 04-02-2016 at 08:17 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-02-2016, 07:08 PM
shinbone shinbone is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 131
Likes: 5
Liked 225 Times in 63 Posts
Default

A new female shooter intimidated by guns?

Either the S&W 63 or 617. The 617 will be a little bigger than the 63. Here is the 63 being put through its paces by a new female shooter:



Not trying to be mean, but with a new female shooter intimidated by guns and you wanting to buy her a 38 Special as her first gun, I would gently suggest you are not in a position to teach her to shoot. If she is amenable, enroll her in an all-female class taught by a female instructor to get her started. You'll be miles ahead than if you try to teach her yourself.

JMHO

Last edited by shinbone; 04-02-2016 at 07:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #24  
Old 04-02-2016, 07:17 PM
BigBill BigBill is offline
Absent Comrade
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 13,869
Likes: 2,079
Liked 13,352 Times in 5,549 Posts
Default

My misses shoots a 4" Taurus revolver in 22lr double action. I showed her how to shoot a double action first shot 9mm. I pity the fool.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-02-2016, 07:24 PM
dmbaile2 dmbaile2 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Again, appreciate the replies.
I will try to address the situation with my Wife. Historically she has had absolutely no interest in learning more about how a gun operates, which is fine, I came to terms with that a long time ago. Her disinterest in learning how guns work partially pertains to why I don’t think auto feeds are a good choice for her, she also does not like the way autos look. She tried to manipulate the slide on my keltec PF9 and every other time it jammed because she didn’t rack it all the way back. If it was to jam, forget about it. Beyond that, I can see limp wristing being a possible issue.

Right now I don’t know how many times I am going to be able to get her to the range, probably not much. In selecting a weapon for home defense, I figure it will be best if we have something that she can pick up and use If I am incapacitated. They make some pretty light 38 loads, I figured in a heavier frame the recoil will be manageable for her. But admittedly I have limited experience in this area.

As for price, it doesn’t really matter what we spend. Kozmic, I would love to find a great deal on a quality firearm as much as the next guy. How do you do that by the way? Pawn Shops? Regardless, we aren’t in a financial situation where we need to sacrifice quality for ammunition, I can afford both. Of course, If you want to sell me your Security Six for a great deal I won’t object.

Shinbone, I think that is good advise and I am not opposed to it at all.

Last edited by dmbaile2; 04-02-2016 at 07:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-02-2016, 07:53 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

Why the desire for an exposed hammer?

This isn't simply a range toy, so we are referencing self-defense with a gun rather than simply shooting. They are not one in the same. She needs something as safe and simple as possible, plus do not discount the possibility of an extreme close-quarter defense scenario even in the case of home defense. In ECQ range, the enclosed hammer snub is an extremely formidable weapon, the best weapon IMO.

From Massad Ayoob...

"Male criminals tend to be misogynists. The man who would surrender to him at gunpoint would die rather than go to prison with it known that he had surrendered to her. He is more likely by far to attack and attempt to disarm a woman. More than 20 years of teaching handgun disarming and retention has taught me the hardest gun to take away from its legitimate owner is a 2-inch barreled revolver. With a shrouded hammer, this is also the only gun a woman can fire through a coat pocket without a hammer or a slide fouling in fabric and stopping her stream of fire."
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-02-2016, 07:58 PM
dmbaile2 dmbaile2 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

I hadn't even thought about the hammer. I have been primarily focused on weight and size.. Aren't all of the enclosed hammer models light weight and small frame?

Last edited by dmbaile2; 04-02-2016 at 08:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 04-02-2016, 08:16 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbaile2 View Post
I hadn't even thought about the hammer. I have been primarily focused on weight and size.. Aren't all of the enclosed hammer models light weight and small frame?
The S&W 640 is all stainless steel and pretty close in weight to an SP101.

There are a numerous advantages to the enclosed hammer centennial frame... Massad Ayoob: Hammer or

Last edited by Mister X; 04-02-2016 at 08:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 04-02-2016, 09:01 PM
Gpsman Gpsman is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: St. Louis Missouri
Posts: 158
Likes: 274
Liked 170 Times in 76 Posts
Default

I hate to disagree with the esteemed counselor from Louisiana but Ruger does still make the SP101 in a 3" version. Model 5719.

I own an SP 101 and. Model 60. For a new and occasional shooter, I think that the added weight of the Ruger is a better idea. Find one with a good trigger, or have a little work done to it to smooth it out.

Even better would be a used 3 or 4" S&W K frame.

As has been said, LOTS of choices in revolvers for under $1000.

My sweetie wants nothing to do with semi autos, and she is deadly with her model 36. She has been eying my 686.....

Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 04-02-2016, 09:32 PM
Otreb Otreb is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WA St
Posts: 684
Likes: 285
Liked 912 Times in 366 Posts
Default

IMO the OP's intuition is sound, and a smaller steel framed revolver in .38sp would be great. Even Colts.
.38sp comes loaded from very mild to 9mm+p like, can be easy to shoot and learn with.
If relying on a .22 for protection, I'd never go with a .22 auto, much less a small one for somebody not overly inclined to master the mechanicals. I still frequently encounter duds in rimfire, and especially small .22s often don't have an extractor. A small revolver with 8-9 shot capacity makes better sense. Small .22 revolvers will sometimes have a stiffer DA trigger, but that can be overcome with practice, technique and worst case, springs.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 04-02-2016, 09:51 PM
CAJUNLAWYER's Avatar
CAJUNLAWYER CAJUNLAWYER is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On da Bayou Teche
Posts: 18,407
Likes: 18,440
Liked 58,599 Times in 9,622 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gpsman View Post
I hate to disagree with the esteemed counselor from Louisiana but Ruger does still make the SP101 in a 3" version. Model 5719.
I didn't say they didn't make them. I said "I don't think Ruger manes a new SP101 with that length." Always say you "don't think..." instead of "I know...." this little pointer will keep you from being held in contempt ( as in" You can't do that Judge" vs " I don't think you can do that Judge" )or charged with perjury ( "I didn't do that" vs "I don't think I did that"). Also for the record I said noting about Ruger making anything-I think the verb used was "mane". As for the 3" SP101-I didn't know that they still made them so it was in fact a true statement. So there.
__________________
Forum consigliere
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #32  
Old 04-03-2016, 06:54 AM
msauter msauter is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 166
Likes: 62
Liked 464 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Davidsons Gun Genie has the 3" Mod 60 in stock, also the Mod 60 Ladysmith is in stock, and on sale. They ship to a gun store near you.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 04-03-2016, 10:11 AM
bowzette bowzette is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 260
Likes: 171
Liked 118 Times in 64 Posts
Default

Forget a 9mm revolver. It will shoot much harder in a revolver than an pistol. I like the idea of a quality .22lr revolver. Hopefully she would learn to enjoy shooting. I have a Ruger LCR in .22lr and like it a lot. Down side is trigger pull is heavy but this is true for all rimfire revolvers. The trigger like all LCRs is very smooth, but the reset is all the way forward. Takes some practice. The Smith K frame in 3 or 4" barrel would be good if it fits her hand. You might want to look into .380 autos with double action triggers like Kahrs or Ruger LC380-not the LCP or blow back designs.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 04-03-2016, 10:27 AM
sheepdawg's Avatar
sheepdawg sheepdawg is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hills of North Georgia
Posts: 5,118
Likes: 1,850
Liked 12,440 Times in 3,403 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Star View Post

I DO NOT suggest Colt revolvers, as they're hard to keep in time and few gunsmiths will now work on them. Too complicated. And the sights are often "off".
I have to disagree, owning three Colts. My everyday carry is a Colt Cobra with several hundred rounds through it. It outshoots my M36 and the SP101 I used to own. The trigger is better than the M36 and light years better than the SP101. The hard to keep in time is a myth, the finding a gunsmith to work on them can be tough, agreed. Sights off, not mine.

A D Frame Colt would be a fine choice IMHO.
__________________
LIVE FROM THE DAWGHOUSE
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #35  
Old 04-03-2016, 11:13 AM
prescobd prescobd is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 455
Likes: 32
Liked 249 Times in 98 Posts
Default

I too would also consider a Colt 38 D frame revolver such as the Detective Special. Same size gun but 6 shots instead of 5.
Also, I didn't see mentioned a .327 Federal Magnum SP101. It's no longer made with the 3 inch barrel bolt it is being produced with a 4 inch barrel. It has the advantage of a 6 round cylinder as opposed to that of the 5 shot 38/357 version. It will handle several different 32 caliber rounds. You could start your wife off shooting the lesser powered rounds and eventually work her up to the 32 H&R or the 32 Fed Mag.
Also, at one time, Ruger did chamber the SP101 in 9mm as well.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 04-03-2016, 11:17 AM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

Anytime I read through threads such as this, I can help but notice a disconnect. Many of the comments are from the perspective of experienced hobbyists or "shooters" who enjoy the gun culture, guns themselves or the sporting aspect of shooting itself and do so regularly, but that's not who this gun is intended for. There is a substantial difference between a hobbyist/shooter who has a passing interest in self-defense but which is not their primary focus, someone simply arming themselves for self-defense and an individual who is a serous dedicated self-defense exponent. I think the majority of members on this forum probably fit in the first category, the OP's wife in the second and very few members in the latter one.

The recommendations on threads such as these remind me of someone simply wanting to learn unarmed self-defense/assault and rape prevention techniques, but go to a traditional martial art school and the instructor tries to turn them into a dedicated martial artist.

There often comes the inevitable need for regular training recommendations, but what many call training is really nothing more than shooting. Someone who is a gun culture/shooting enthusiast isn't usually primarily interested in and focused on training purely for self-defense or perhaps they simply do not understand the difference just like the individual who goes into the martial art school wanting to learn basic unarmed self-defense gets misdirected into becoming a martial artist learning irrelevant skills to their objective.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 04-03-2016, 11:26 AM
jimmyj's Avatar
jimmyj jimmyj is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: May 2003
Location: DUNNELLON, FLORIDA USA
Posts: 11,102
Likes: 1,690
Liked 16,300 Times in 4,231 Posts
Default

Model 64/65 three inch barrel with round butt.
Use 148 grain wadcutters with 2.5 grs bullseye
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #38  
Old 04-03-2016, 11:33 AM
BAM-BAM BAM-BAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A Burb of the Burgh
Posts: 14,748
Likes: 1,614
Liked 19,849 Times in 8,772 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister X View Post
There is a substantial difference between a hobbyist/shooter who has a passing interest in self-defense ......"
"....a hobbyist .....who has a passing interest in self-defense......."


Have to think on this one........

Maybe flip it;I think there are a lot of folks who acquire a firearm for self-defense and only goes to the range and shoots occasionally................ or not at all...... hence all the 98% used sock drawer guns......my accumulation is based on!!!!!!

Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 04-03-2016, 12:46 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BAM-BAM View Post
"
Maybe flip it;I think there are a lot of folks who acquire a firearm for self-defense and only goes to the range and shoots occasionally................ or not at all...... hence all the 98% used sock drawer guns......my accumulation is based on!!!!!!

That would accurately describe the majority of gun owners, but not the regular contributing members on this or any gun forum.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 04-03-2016, 12:58 PM
Kanewpadle's Avatar
Kanewpadle Kanewpadle is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Wrong side of Washington
Posts: 10,174
Likes: 13,010
Liked 17,098 Times in 5,128 Posts
Default

In all sincerity, I would take her to a range that hopefully has several different revolvers that she can try.

So far all of the suggestions have been great. But there are minor differences in each gun such as grip size and trigger reach as well as perceived recoil.

Does the gun fit her hand? Can she reach the trigger and still have enough strength to pull the trigger AND make accurate hits on target? Can you replace the grip? Can she manipulate the cylinder release and empty and reload the gun?

Also consider the sights. What you like may be different for her.
__________________
Life Is A Gift. Defend it!
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 04-03-2016, 01:03 PM
BAM-BAM BAM-BAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A Burb of the Burgh
Posts: 14,748
Likes: 1,614
Liked 19,849 Times in 8,772 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister X View Post
That would accurately describe the majority of gun owners, but not the regular contributing members on this or any gun forum.
Good point...... or they or their heirs wouldn't be selling/trading their/Dad's old Smith for a couple hundred to buy a G----!
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 04-03-2016, 01:22 PM
Gpsman Gpsman is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: St. Louis Missouri
Posts: 158
Likes: 274
Liked 170 Times in 76 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CAJUNLAWYER View Post
I didn't say they didn't make them. I said "I don't think Ruger manes a new SP101 with that length." Always say you "don't think..." instead of "I know...." this little pointer will keep you from being held in contempt ( as in" You can't do that Judge" vs " I don't think you can do that Judge" )or charged with perjury ( "I didn't do that" vs "I don't think I did that"). Also for the record I said noting about Ruger making anything-I think the verb used was "mane". As for the 3" SP101-I didn't know that they still made them so it was in fact a true statement. So there.

Point taken counselor!
I am still licensed as a Professional Land Surveyor (although I now travel the roads as a greedy sales dog) and I am fully aware of the meaning of words, the certainty of being certain, and of covering one's posterior. Alternatives to the Ruger SP101

Way to often, people forget that words actually do mean things, and there are times when you are called upon to explain what you said!

Alternatives to the Ruger SP101Alternatives to the Ruger SP101Alternatives to the Ruger SP101
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #43  
Old 04-03-2016, 11:49 PM
dmbaile2 dmbaile2 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Interesting development. We stopped by a local gun store this weekend and were able to handle a much larger selection of guns. My wife really liked the feel of the 3" GP100 and 3" 686. Sure enough she looked like she had a pretty solid grip on the 686.


Hmmm... This development may negate my original topic... And now I find myself looking at the TRR8, it is about the same weight as a 3" 686 but holds an extra round and has light integration which seems like it could be handy for home defense.. We haven't handled a TRR8 though. It is also a little over budget but meh, that's life.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 04-04-2016, 08:20 AM
bigwheelzip's Avatar
bigwheelzip bigwheelzip is offline
Absent Comrade
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 12,990
Likes: 17,229
Liked 41,503 Times in 9,146 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbaile2 View Post
My wife really liked the feel of the 3" GP100 and 3" 686. Sure enough she looked like she had a pretty solid grip on the 686.

And now I find myself looking at the TRR8, it is about the same weight as a 3" 686 but holds an extra round and has light integration which seems like it could be handy for home defense.. We haven't handled a TRR8 though.
While the weight may be similar, the TRR8 is a larger "N" frame with a square grip. The 3" 686 that your wife liked is an "L" frame with a round grip. It will "feel" different, and the larger a gun gets, the less likely she will have it with her in the event of an emergency.

For "her" first gun, it's important that "she" choose what she likes, if you want her to become comfortable and proficient with it, and have it handy if she needs it.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #45  
Old 04-04-2016, 09:09 AM
Ross3914 Ross3914 is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 291
Likes: 54
Liked 294 Times in 142 Posts
Default

If she's not going to carry it, check out the GP-100 Match Champion. While it's 4", it doesn't have the underlug so it doesn't seem as huge as the other GP-100's. Novak sights that are are easy to see, and the trigger seems a tad better than the other GP-100's.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 04-04-2016, 09:35 AM
Muss Muggins's Avatar
Muss Muggins Muss Muggins is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: bootheel of Missouri
Posts: 16,852
Likes: 6,981
Liked 28,082 Times in 8,896 Posts
Default

Model 13 with a 3" barrel . . .
__________________
Wisdom comes thru fear . . .
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 04-04-2016, 10:50 AM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

If you go with a larger framed model, I would have it rendered DAO http://www.grantcunningham.com/2007/...only-revolver/

I still feel the enclosed hammer snub revolver is the most practical and versatile choice available for the average untrained person, their likely lifestyle and the most probable threats. Many people make the false presumption that home invasions only occur at night or they will have time to retrieve a gun and a certain amount of distance on their side, but that simply isn't always the case.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2365672...home-invasions

http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/...me-invasion-10

Even in scenarios where there is a fairly lengthy lead time and a sizable physical distance, you cannot assume an assailant will stop advancing just because you fire or that 1 or 2 hits will incapacitate them. The ECQ advantages of the enclosed hammer snub revolver make it a logical choice. Consider the following home invasion and theorize what would have served her best
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 04-04-2016, 06:29 PM
Mister X Mister X is offline
Member
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,908
Likes: 414
Liked 2,249 Times in 1,032 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old cop View Post
My wife of 47 years does not like guns, but can handle a revolver if necessary. A recent onset of arthritis in her hands has changed things and our Model 10 snub is doable in single action. She now lacks the strength to pull a double action trigger and is so afraid of autos that they're out of the picture altogether.
I had a conversation with Mas Ayoob many years ago about a suitable home defense revolver for my elderly mother-in-law who suffered from arthritis, lacked hand strength and struggled with heavy DAO triggers. He said cocking to single action was a bad option not only because of the problems associated with a "hair trigger", but if she lacked the strength to pull a double-action trigger, then she most likely lacked the hand strength and control needed to safely UN-cock it. He recommended finding a suitable DAO trigger she could manage as being the best option.

Last edited by Mister X; 04-04-2016 at 07:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 04-04-2016, 08:20 PM
Kanewpadle's Avatar
Kanewpadle Kanewpadle is offline
US Veteran
Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101 Alternatives to the Ruger SP101  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Wrong side of Washington
Posts: 10,174
Likes: 13,010
Liked 17,098 Times in 5,128 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old cop View Post
My wife of 47 years does not like guns, but can handle a revolver if necessary. A recent onset of arthritis in her hands has changed things and our Model 10 snub is doable in single action. She now lacks the strength to pull a double action trigger and is so afraid of autos that they're out of the picture altogether.
My wife has rheumatoid arthritis. Her favorite is my Smith 19 but she can't do double action anymore either let alone rack the slide on a semi auto.

We went to a range a few weeks ago and she shot my Ruger Mark II. She really likes it. She can pull the bolt back with some effort. I'm going to buy a bolt racker.


She can rack the bolt with her hand or use a table top.

22 ain't much but I would hate to get shot with 11 CCI Stingers.
__________________
Life Is A Gift. Defend it!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ANOTHER RUGER......SP101 9mm KLYDE Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 6 05-31-2015 06:56 PM
Sold: Both SPF, thanks! Ruger Blackhawk .44 Special, Ruger SP101 Talo .357 Magnum Waywatcher GUNS - For Sale or Trade 3 12-31-2014 02:12 PM
S&W 640 Pro,617-6 6", Ruger Sp101 22lr, and Ruger Wiley Clapp Gp100 for sale FTF in.. nsl GUNS - For Sale or Trade 5 08-15-2014 03:25 PM
Ruger SR9 9mm in OD green cheap still available , Ruger SP101, Hunter SOLD 10/24/11 gumpys GUNS - For Sale or Trade 11 10-26-2011 09:26 PM
WTS: Benelli Supernova, Ruger 10/22, and Ruger SP101 pressurepoint3 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 1 05-06-2010 10:27 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)