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Old 04-08-2016, 05:08 PM
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Other than the modularity, is this pretty much the same gun, or am I missing something? The polymer framed SP-2022 has been around for several years.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:34 PM
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Other than the modularity, is this pretty much the same gun, or am I missing something? The polymer framed SP-2022 has been around for several years.
Completely different gun. The SP2022 is based on the SP2009 and was developed for the French Police. They put it into service in 2002 and will keep them in service for 20 years =Sig Pro 2022. It has a traditional DA/SA trigger which is different than the trigger found on the classic P series Sigs. It has a longer, but very smooth DA trigger and a solid crisp SA. It has more of a revolver feel in the DA then a Sig P226 or P220. IMHO

The P320 is a partially pretensioned striker fired DAO gun. It has a quick solid reset and triggers are about 6lbs. It is Sigs answer to Glock. It is available in a flat faced or a tabbed, Glock like, trigger. The out of the box trigger is very good. One of the best out of the box strikers on the market IMHO. It as you already know has a modular concept allowing you to change size within caliber and even caliber between 9mm, 40 S&W and .357 Sig. The 45 ACP cannot be converted to other calibers. This is going to be Sigs workhorse pistol for the next 10 years again IMHO.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:39 AM
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Yoda You need to brush on those two pistols difference . Only thing the same is both have a polymer lower and steel upper . I guess the first difference you need to work thru is the very different trigger group function . Then size of course .

The sp2022 is far closer to a classic sig than a striker fire p320
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I've got a 2022 and 226 (W. Ger) and a 320 on order. The trigger on the 2022 is close to the 226, except its a pound or three heavier and longer in DA and not quite as light and crisp in SA, but still awfully good...but I sent the 226 off to Sig for their service package and the trigger came back appreciably better (and it was near perfect before it went). My 225/P6 is heavier in both SA and DA than either of the other two, but perfectly serviceable for a carry gun.
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Other than the modularity, is this pretty much the same gun, or am I missing something? The polymer framed SP-2022 has been around for several years.
What a timely thread! Oddly enough, I am wrestling with the choice between a SP2022 and a P320 myself. Not their design or performance differences (I know all about them)... just the choice.

Let me explain. After hemming and hawing and waiting practically forever for the stars to align properly, it finally looked like I was all set to pick-up a brand new P226. Unfortunately, complicated circumstances only allow me to purchase the P226 through our local Cabela's, which has been out of the 9mm version of the MA-compliant P226 for about a month... and their sale price on it (which I would need) ends this weekend. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.

So what are my best alternative MA-compliant fall-backs in the Sig line-up other than the awful/obsolete P250? Right now (today), the SP2022... or wait a month or two for a newly-MA-compliant P320. I have tried and like them both, albeit for very different reasons.

Further complicating matters, there is a shortage of MA-compliant SP2022 pistols as well... what's with Sig lately??? ... but I can still get one in a kit with a bunch of extras for $519+Tax. It's a lot of money for what I always felt was a $400 (max) pistol.

Or I wait a while for a P320. Estimated price, last I heard, was going to be about $550. What would you do???

Note that the P226 will still happen someday. I firmly believe that it will. I just don't know when. It could be a very long time.
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Don't discount the later models of the P250. They have a very nice DAO trigger.
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Old 04-09-2016, 04:23 PM
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Don't discount the later models of the P250. They have a very nice DAO trigger.
I probably should have clarified that my next Sig is to be a full-size range pistol and I no longer do DAO in full-size range pistols. I'm either a DA/SA or striker-fired kind of guy these days for the range. That alone rules out the P250.

But the bigger issue is that the P250 is essentially being superseded by the P320. Maybe not on paper... but in reality, that's what's happening. Because of that, I don't think the P250 would be a good investment at today's (still relatively high) MA prices.
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But the bigger issue is that the P250 is essentially being superseded by the P320. Maybe not on paper... but in reality, that's what's happening. Because of that, I don't think the P250 would be a good investment at today's (still relatively high) MA prices.
Aaahh, the joys of living in Nevada. I recently picked up a 290RS and a P250SC at good prices and the trigger on the 250 is wonderful IMHO.
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Aaahh, the joys of living in Nevada. I recently picked up a 290RS and a P250SC at good prices and the trigger on the 250 is wonderful IMHO.
A lot of revolver shooters like the P250. If you like the trigger its great if you don't its meh....

I fall in to the meh category. The trigger is too long and the reset takes for.........ever.

In the end its just personal preference. If you like the trigger its a steal at the sub $350 level NIB.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:20 PM
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What a timely thread! Oddly enough, I am wrestling with the choice between a SP2022 and a P320 myself. Not their design or performance differences (I know all about them)... just the choice.

Let me explain. After hemming and hawing and waiting practically forever for the stars to align properly, it finally looked like I was all set to pick-up a brand new P226. Unfortunately, complicated circumstances only allow me to purchase the P226 through our local Cabela's, which has been out of the 9mm version of the MA-compliant P226 for about a month... and their sale price on it (which I would need) ends this weekend. In other words, it ain't gonna happen.

So what are my best alternative MA-compliant fall-backs in the Sig line-up other than the awful/obsolete P250? Right now (today), the SP2022... or wait a month or two for a newly-MA-compliant P320. I have tried and like them both, albeit for very different reasons.

Further complicating matters, there is a shortage of MA-compliant SP2022 pistols as well... what's with Sig lately??? ... but I can still get one in a kit with a bunch of extras for $519+Tax. It's a lot of money for what I always felt was a $400 (max) pistol.

Or I wait a while for a P320. Estimated price, last I heard, was going to be about $550. What would you do???

Note that the P226 will still happen someday. I firmly believe that it will. I just don't know when. It could be a very long time.
Man is it just MA that is causing you to get rapped on the SP2022. That is a $400-$450 gun max OTD. They used to be cheaper but Sig has been steadily raising the price.

When I got my German made SP2022 it was $425 with 3 mags and night sites. These days you are lucky to find them with contrast sights and 1 mag for $400.

The real downside of the SP2022 and the P320/P250 platform is mags. There are almost no aftermaket mags. Megar has a extended mag for the 9mm SP2022 but it hangs out the bottom with an adapter which makes it look better but it is far from flush fit. Factory mags run $35-$45 for the SP2022 and the P320. That is one of the ways Sig is making money on the SP2022.
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Aaahh, the joys of living in Nevada. I recently picked up a 290RS and a P250SC at good prices and the trigger on the 250 is wonderful IMHO.
You are probably aware that most MA-compliant triggers are terrible beyond words anyway. Some are mysteriously better than others. They say the MA-compliant P320 trigger will be somewhat better than average... and especially so compared to our MA-compliant P250. So far, I have only gotten to try a free state P320. I thought it was pretty darn good for a striker-fired pistol.
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Man is it just MA that is causing you to get rapped on the SP2022. That is a $400-$450 gun max OTD. They used to be cheaper but Sig has been steadily raising the price.

When I got my German made SP2022 it was $425 with 3 mags and night sites. These days you are lucky to find them with contrast sights and 1 mag for $400.
Oh, I agree with you. The SP2022 has always been a "$400 or less" pistol (when bought right) for as long as I can remember.

Looking at Sig price lists, the ones I can find anyway, all the Sigs are climbing steadily in list price.

I'm being told by some that the SP2022 is being discontinued. Because of that, one local shop is running a "20% Off" sale. Only problem is that all the 9mm versions without the special kit are all long gone. Only .40 is left in the no-extra frills box... and they are $400+Tax sale price. So at least that fits with my perceptions.

The only 9mm pistols they have left are in those special kits with the holster and light/laser combo. That's what adds the extra $119. I don't need it or want it but that's the only choice I have left in 9mm. I've been looking elsewhere for a 9mm without the special kit but no luck so far.

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The real downside of the SP2022 and the P320/P250 platform is mags. There are almost no aftermarket mags. Megar has a extended mag for the 9mm SP2022 but it hangs out the bottom with an adapter which makes it look better but it is far from flush fit. Factory mags run $35-$45 for the SP2022 and the P320. That is one of the ways Sig is making money on the SP2022.
I would be limited to new 10-round magazines either way... SP2022 or P320. I'll wait for a magazine deal to come along someday. Might be a lot more likely on the P320 than the SP2022.
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AFAIK, the trigger on the p250 is the same in Mass as everywhere else. The trigger is very good if you compare it to a double action revolver.

Mass compliant p250's, and conversion kits have 10round magazines, but the same trigger.
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I would, but I learned everything that I need to right here right now! Thanks, y'all. I didn't focus on anything but the frame, I guess, so I missed the whole striker fired stuff.

No big deal. I'm not that into SIGs. My SP-2022 is likely the sole SIG I'll own; I had an old P226 but I dumped it a long time ago. The SP-2022 is, presently, my only polymer framed pistol, too. I'm more of a 3rd Gen S&W guy, and WAY MORE of a revolver guy. That's why I bought the SP-2022, because it is TDA - I like that revolver, double action first shot feel.

I shot 246 out of 250 with it on my last CHL test so it's a keeper and occasional carry gun.

Thanks for ALL OF THAT INFO!!!
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