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Here are my Winchester 1873 Special Sporting Rifle and S&W N0.3, both by Uberti out for a little sun.
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That S & W looks like the Schoffield (sp) model ?
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Looks good. I've been thinking about posting a photo of my Winchester 1873 with my uberti 1873 Cattleman's. They are both nickel finished. Love the "ivory" grips you have
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Originally Posted by Walkin' Jack
That S & W looks like the Schoffield (sp) model ?
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No, it doesn't. Look at the much shorter part under the barrel that houses the extractor spring. It'd be called the barrel lug or extractor rod housing on later guns with swing-out cylinders. The Schofield has a longer one, but not as long as on the American.
The actual Russian issue models have that part a bit longer than on the Schofield.
You may remember that the model pictured was used by the Japanese Navy and was the gun carried by Robert Culp on the old TV show, Trackdown. The famous target shooter Walter Winans also used that model and had some nicely engraved ones.
It lacks the stronger latch of the Schofield, but is otherwise the most evolved and improved of the S&W break-top .44's. I would say of all the S&W break-tops, but someone would point to the Perfected model .38 with both side and top cylinder releases.
Webley had by the early 1880's adopted a stronger cylinder release and their guns were, to my mind, preferable to the S&W's. However, they were good and maybe more accurate than an equivalent Webley. Their .44 Russian cartridge was probably adequate at average revolver ranges, a 246 grain bullet at a nominal 750 FPS. Webley countered with the .476, a 265 grainer at about 700 FPS or the .455 with that bullet at about the same speed in the longer MK I version, also called .455 Colt.
However, many preferred the handling qualities and greater power of the Colt SAA, its .45 Colt cartridge listed at 910 FPS with the 7.5-inch barrel. The .44-40 version threw a 200 grainer at about that speed, black powder loads for all cited. British Lt. Col. Vincent Fosbery, VC, said the .44-40 was the best stopper on men that he saw used on the NW Frontier of India. BTW, he earned his Victoria Cross at Kandahar, in Afghanistan. That region has been troublesome for Britain for many, many years...
The OP was correct in identifying his Uberti gun as a copy of the New Model No. 3 S&W.
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Nice I been looking at a 45lc schofield. But the 44 Russian looks good too.
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I have a very similar set up. A copy of the 1873, mine is in 44 S&W Special, and a pair of Ubirti's copy of the No.3 Russian second model with the flowing trigger spur. For shooting; mine wear the wood stocks, for show; I have the mother of pearl stocks. The deep beautiful blue looks best in sunlight!
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I felt obligated to share, just took a while to take the photos.
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I'm confused.
According to their website, Uberti makes two "Smith and Wessons". The Russian and the Schofield.
The Russian has a round butt, a lanyard ring, a hump at the top of the grip and a spur on the trigger guard.
The Schofield has a square butt, no ring, no hump and no spur.
They also have different hammer shapes and different latching systems.
The pictured gun has no hump, no ring and no spur, which would seem to make it a Schofield, but it has a round butt and a Russian hammer. I can't make out the latch in the pic.
I know that Smith made other models of the Russian, without the hump or the spur, but I'm unaware of Uberti doing so.
So what the heck IS that thing?
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Originally Posted by Alpo
I'm confused.
According to their website, Uberti makes two "Smith and Wessons". The Russian and the Schofield.
The Russian has a round butt, a lanyard ring, a hump at the top of the grip and a spur on the trigger guard.
The Schofield has a square butt, no ring, no hump and no spur.
They also have different hammer shapes and different latching systems.
The pictured gun has no hump, no ring and no spur, which would seem to make it a Schofield, but it has a round butt and a Russian hammer. I can't make out the latch in the pic.
I know that Smith made other models of the Russian, without the hump or the spur, but I'm unaware of Uberti doing so.
So what the heck IS that thing?
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It is neither a Schofield OR a Russian. It's a New Model 3 repro. Like this Target one I just got though it was converted to .22. I believe Uberti has a 3rd Model Russian type cylinder removal screw on top of their "New Model 3s".
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I felt obligated to share, just took a while to take the photos.
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I'm not usually a fan of nickel guns, but your pair in that leather look beautiful, just right.
I think it's because the pics carry me back to my childhood and 25 cent Saturday double feature cowboy matinees at the local movie.
Happy, carefree days.
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04-18-2016, 02:32 PM
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2005 Vintage Colt SAA....
Actions improved greatly when Colt went
back to the removable cylinder bushing.
Been packin this one some.
Sunday go to meetin Colt...
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OK, here is another.
45 Colt Marlin Cowboy -- Octagonal barrel
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