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Old 05-27-2016, 03:55 PM
Jäger Jäger is offline
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Something like this .....closer to what a 1911 is. The original ones are to slow for me. Not to mean that I'm naturally super duper fast and awesome but this safety slows me down to grandpa speed. But a 1911 style has more contact area and it's just naturally faster. Where is the original is very flat and I'm almost looking for it by pressing my thumb into the slide with some good pressure and sliding it down until I feel the safety, then pushing down on it. With the more contact area my thumb naturally land on it as I move it down. Hopefully that explanation made sense
For some people, I think the safety issue comes from arriving at the HP after starting in the 1911 camp.

For those who started in the HP camp, many find the 1911 paddles to be an outright nuisance, along with the debates about thumb over/thumb under.

The original safety design comes off just as easily being actuated by the inside of the thumb joint than pushing on something with the thumb. That is the way most small arms instructors teaching the troops demonstrate and teach. Whether paratrooper or log wog, most apparently are able to work with this over about seven decades. That's a lot of soldiers with a lot of HPs...

One advantage of this is the shooter doesn't have to figure out whether the thumb goes over, under, whatever. The original design safety is small enough that the thumbs can go wherever they naturally want to go without a paddle in the way.

I am continuously tempted to grab a Dremel and start putting the safeties on my Mk III's on a footprint reduction program. As the 69C is the one that gets carried, however, I'm not annoyed enough to get started on this yet.
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:24 PM
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The only clone of which I'm aware that had/had a reputation equal, or superior, to Browning is the long discontinued Israeli Kareen. My understanding is that it was manufactured to use Israeli 9x19 mm SMG ammunition that is, apparently, loaded to significantly higher pressure than SAAMI +P.

Unfortunately, this is trivia that irritates me because I cannot obtain one. An, of course, parts not subject to its ammunition's higher pressures are interchangeable with Brownings.
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Old 05-28-2016, 08:17 AM
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Ive seen Kareens pop up now and again, Isn't that higher pressure ammo one of the reasons folks didn't trust the Beretta m92?

sorry to derail the conversation.
despite my complaints with my hi-power i wish i had another one. not much bigger than a 1911 and varied like a breeze. i juts couldn't justify it.
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