Well the first re introduction was a total fail with the R51

They claim to have worked it all out?

I had a Rohrbaugh Stealth 9mm (beautifully made and looked like a work of art) but just flat out did not work. Plus it was way expensive!! Now Rem bought them out and is selling the 380 ACP version with Rem revisions.

Who knows what will be in store for these pistols. Great designs if they work this time around.??

Remington R51 | Remington

RM380 | Remington

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I'd like to try one.

No ill will to Remington but too many others that work, so I'm out. Good luck to those who'll give it another try.

Remington is carrying battle scars from the Marlin lever actions as well as the first issue R51. They aren't about to release another version of the R51 without thoroughly testing it. I will bet that it will be a good pistol and get good reviews. Remington did a fine job with the R1 1911 pistols and they are well liked by their owners. I hope that they have righted the ship and will continue the Remington Arms Co. legacy of producing fine American firearms.

I own an RM380 and am very pleased with all aspects of it. I knew almost nothing of the R51 prior to discovering the RM380. After viewing the above link on the revised R51 I look forward to putting one in my hands. If it fits I have one gun I would part with to fund the purchase of one. The only other gun I would like to check out will be the Bond Arms Bullpup when it gets released although with a little skepticism.

Stay safe, John

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Luke 23:34

The link says it's an aluminum frame. I may go looking for one. Let's give them credit for not introducing another polymer wondergun.

Aluminum frame was one of my reasons...I've said no to polymer so far...

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Luke 23:34

They didn't address the ugly. The original model 51 was a beautiful pistol. This isn't close.

I'm not going to do anyones R&D for them, esp at my expense. If I wanted a similar weapon today I'd buy a glock 42/43 or maybe a Ruger. Five years from now I might take a look at them...

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I tried the trigger on the RM 380, as well as every other pocket gun in the show case. They were all too long and heavy except the Ruger Custom LCP. It has a red trigger. I bought one. It is the only DAO pistol I own, it shoots great and fits in my pocket in a soft UM # 2 holster.

The RM380 looks like a winner, I'll probably pick one up soon. I want a long heavy DA trigger on a tiny pocket gun like that.

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That's more of the reasons I bought mine. Reviews are excellent and so is mine. Trigger smoothed out nicely right quick, still long and somewhat heavy, that's what I am used to from my DA j frames. Don't think you'll regret it. Had it narrowed down to 2, the RM380 and a Seecamp. The RM380 is small enough and it's not ammo picky.

Stay safe, John

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Luke 23:34

I've always like the idea of the R51 but while Remington was going through two re-designs/re-releases, the Shield and G43 kind of took the biggest slices of the pie. Still, I would bet that after all of the embarrassment they got it right this time. They'll have to beat the Smith and Glock prices though.

The Ruger LCP and Taurus TCP both have a long DA trigger
pull and are way cheaper and lighter. The latest American
Rifleman magazine has a test of the RM380. It weighs more
than my S&W 37-2 revolver. The Ruger and Taurus seem to
have the bugs worked out and can be bought on sale for
around $200. I think the RM380 at well over $400 retail is
going to be a tough sell.

I like the idea of an aluminum frame and I see them selling on GunBroker for well under $300 NIB. Considering it's an improved version of the Rohrbaugh at 1/4 the price, I think it's worth looking at for those who were interested in the Rohrbaugh.

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As far at the R51 is concerned, I think Remington has missed their window of opportunity and used up a ton of good will with the first pass. That horse has done left the barn.

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I disagree. The pocket pistol market is stronger now than ever. Look at the Ruger 1911 or the Remington R1. The market was flooded with 1911's at their release yet, they both succeed. How about the mouse pistols or AR market? There doesn't seem to be anyone arriving late to the party in the current climate of rising gun sales.

I had one of the first R 51 pistols over 2 years ago.
The bitterness of poor quality will remain LONG after the sweetness of a low price.
Approaching my 71st birthday, I will not live long enough to forgive Remington for the R51 fiasco. Just my .02 cents.

Actually it's a MODIFIED version of the Rohrbaugh. What
Remington has actually done with the design is to turn it
into a modified version of the Keltech like the Ruger and
Taurus are.

Well, I believe most would consider the modifications to be improvements on the design unless one happens to prefer, for some reason, the original Rohrbaugh's mag release at the heel and a slide that doesn't lock back on empty mags. I, for one, like the changes Remington made. The checkered frontstrap they added is nice, too.

Again, an improved Rohrbaugh at 1/4 the price is hard to ignore.

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SWHF #448

Great! Please report back here on your experiences with your
new handgun.

You are right, the trigger is smooth, but has a longer reset. The high profile sights are a real snag risk for such a deep cover pistol.

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Only if, as Don Corleone would say, I got a deal on an R51 that I couldn't refuse. Failing that, no thanks.

I'd want to give them credit for making a GOOD gun not the material they use. Oh its metal/aluminum. ...oooo...aaaaa....still a flaming cow pie!

It's got some issues still from some of the reports.

Lots of FTE, bulging cases (albeit further down the brass). Poor manufacturing of internal parts, wrong pin installed on one. Looks like poor steel hardening on the lugs of the bolt or poor finishing of the lugs on the frame causing serious wear, 'could be both.

Sights not fixed, just added set screws front and rear. Trigger has no tactile or audible reset still. Lots of lateral trigger movement still.

But hay that's all minor stuff. As long as it's not polymer right

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Remington R51 Is Still have Design Issues . Imagine That !!

Good example of what happens when a capital investment company runs firearm companies .

I got a deal on the first R51 for 340 bucks . Thankfully after 7 months of dealing with remingtons bs buy back I was offered an R1 as a pay off and traded it to my lgs with out opening the box plus a 100 bucks for sig p320 compact with night sights in 40sw out the door. So I got a deal for the Remington and the last time I'll ever spend money on a product owned by " Ceribus Capital Investment" and there "distressed investing" Our great pocket 380 is a TCP . I pocket a cm9 kahr .

And where, exactly, are you hearing all these "reports"? The weapon hasn't hit the retail channel yet, so you must have some secret inside source the rest of us aren't privy to, huh?

Well, maybe if you'd share with the gang here the source of your wisdom instead of snarly commentary, we'd all be as enlightened as you.

AlHunt

For your enlightenment -

Were I a Remmie exec viewing this..... I'd be beside myself.

Dunno, looks to me like the problems were due to cheapo ammo, and fat hands dragging the slide on an ultra low bore axis pistol.

Why is the rear sight backwards?

Wouldn't trust my life with that garbage. That thing looks like it won't see 5000 rounds.

No snag design.

Round on the back, so it clears your clothing. The square part on the front can be used to operate the slide against your shoe, table, etc in a "one-hand" situation.

I'm no engineer but the RM380 looks just like my Taurus TCP at 3x the price.

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