recently........or care to share their experience with these little guns.

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LEX ET ORDO

I bought this one for my son for Christmas last year. Seecamps are super cool...and super expensive. I went back to the shop in January to get myself one and the price had gone up $50.00; I bought a Glock 29 instead.

The Seecamp is a quality pistol, though not compatible with all .32 a.c.p. ammo. My son's has to use the Winchester 60 grain ammo.


Here it is with a 9mm Shield.

I had a Seecamp .25 acp for several years but never owned a .32. A
couple of coworkers did own .32 acps however. This was 25-30 yrs ago
and we didn't have the choices we have today. The Seecamps were
heavily hyped and advertised back then and both coworkers bought
into the "must have" the bigger .32 acp idea and each paid around
$750 for their guns, ouch! I paid a lot less for my .25 and carried it
in my jeans pocket for several years. It was very reliable but heavy
for it's size and I finally traded it off. I probably should have kept
it just for what it was.

My wife and I both usually have one squirreled away somewhere in addition to our regular EDCs.
Really like the little rascals. They are quality made little guns.
Last time at the range we had a B-27 target set up. Reeled it up to 7 yards.. I put 7 rounds in the face as fast as I could fire. She put a group about the size of a Smart phone about 2" below the belt buckle.

They aren't target guns, but they are capable of spoiling a BG's day at bad breath range.

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Eccentric old coot

Had the CA/MA Edition 32acp years ago. Had an opportunity to trade it for a S&W CS45. Later I found and bought a Seecamp .380 and still own it. Seecamps are very nice pocket guns.
On another note, traded the CS45 for a TRR8. Then filled the .45 void with an early no-rail 4553TSW.

Had one for a couple years. Like others have said, they're a little heavy, and the early ones were very picky on ammo. Mine would only fire Winchester Silvertips. Well built and reliable with the right ammo . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

I recall when Seecamps were the rage. Today, I've seen some on sale in the $300-$400.00 range. I recall that the gun was designed around a specific cartridge brand and weight. Even then, they were not known for reliability.

I have eyeballed a couple but never bought one. They were always too much money for what you got in my opinion. If, however, that is what you want..... As I recall they are designed to fire Winchester Silvertips with reliability, but not anything else.

I got a .32 Seacamp at a bargin price but could never get it to shoot anything reliabily. Like others said it was a bit heavy so I swaped it for another gun and just gave up on the idea.

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Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)

Carried one in a ankle holster as a back up for years. Purchased direct from Seecamp in Milford, CT in January, 1989. Total price was $215.00.
They must have moved at some point during this time period....the receipt says Milford, and the box is labeled New Haven, CT.

And, contrary to popular belief, it's not "heavy".....the stainless steel gun weighs just 10.9 ounces with a magazine. (empty)

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Ret. LE, FA Instr, S&W Armorer

I have always thought North American Arms had a better solution with their .32 ACP Guardian. Fed almost any ammo, and had arguably better sights, if they can be called that. Wish I had one today; I love well made pocket guns.

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MARK

I have owned both 32ACP and 380 versions. They are heavy, small, and well made. The 380 had more recoil than I could handle in such a small package. I much prefer todays striker fire guns - slightly larger and lighter. For a small gun, I carry a Kahr P380.

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I've had one chambered in .32ACP for several years. As has been described, they are heavy, well built little pocket guns. Mine shoots Winchester Silver Tips without any problems. At one time, the Silver Tips were the only recommended ammo for the piece, but there are several other now that are okayed by the factory. Disassembly is not fun, and one of those tasks that seems to require 3.5 hands and the patience of Job. Operation is strictly DAO, and if you ever handle one, you'll see that it is highly doubtful that anyone was ever shot by one accidentally. When they were first released I recall reading an article about it by a very well known gun writer. He pointed out that a .32 ACP round was roughly the equivalent of a single round of 00 Buckshot in a 12 ga. shotgun round, and if he ever had to use the Seecamp in a life-or-death situation, he would simply rapid fire the piece into his opponent's chest which would be the equivalent of shooting the miscreant with a single round of 00 Buckshot from a 12 ga. shotgun at point-blank range. I immediately knew that gun writer was full of nonsense, and I quit reading his work from then on.

Shooting the Seecamp is not a lot of fun. The recoil from the .32ACP is not particularly strong or unpleasant, but after shooting a couple of magazines of ammo through it, I'm done. It does have a magazine safety, and I've been told that trying to shoot the piece without a magazine in place may cause breakage of one of the few parts within the pistol (I believe there are only 4 parts in the entire pistol). The real advantage to the piece is that it negates any argument that you might have regarding the size of a concealed handgun. It is a very small little thing, and even my daughter can only get about 1.5 fingers around the tiny grip.

At one time, they were the gun to have if you were an undercover cop. But they were very pricey, and I didn't know of many cops who could afford one. I've been offered as much as $500.00 for mine, but I think these days, there probably worth around $300.00 - $350.00. My daughter has indicated she is interested in obtaining her LTC this year, and if she does, I'll probably gift her my 432PD (.32 H&R Magnum), and the little Seecamp to get her started.

Regards,

Dave

PS: here is a link to a previous post regarding my Seecamp I thought was relevant:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/139040867-post30.html

Regards,

Dave

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I've had three of them over the last 20 years. The first one I got back in '96 and had for a couple of years. This was back when they were almost unobtainable. I was pulled over for speeding on I-75 at 2am one morning by a young deputy who evidently didn't know much about firearms. I gave him my CCW permit and the Seecamp at his request. He took it back to his cruiser to write the ticket and check for warrants, etc. He was gone a very long time and of course, I'm not going to go ask him what's going on. When he did finally come back, he sheepishly asked me how to clear it. I told him he needed to put the magazine back in it to be able to rack the slide. He had been trying to rack the slide with the magazine out and had evidently damaged something inside the gun. After that, it just never worked right and would stovepipe on just about every other round. I had a couple of local gunsmiths look at it, but never even thought about sending it back to Seecamp to get it repaired. After having dealt with Seecamp's unsurpassed customer service years later, I wish I had followed that path instead and still had it because it was an early low serial number. I ended up selling it for a little less than I paid for it with the disclosure about it's history.
Bought another in 2002 that I had until 2009, when I had to sell when I was short of cash.
Bought the one I have now about a year ago. It is almost always in my pocket in a Desantis pocket holster sometimes with my EDC revolver, sometimes by itself, but always there. I absolutely love Seecamp's fit and finish, their quality, and like I said their awesome customer service.

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USS Brewton FF1086
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Mr. Seecamp (William?) was a very talented gunsmith and gun designer. His first product was a frame kit to convert the single action 1911 into a double action.

I wanted a Seecamp for a lot of years but wasn't willing to pay the price. The .25's got cheaper when the .32's came out and the .32's got cheaper when the .380's came out.

I have had my .32 for a few years and like it a lot. It's hard to make a real gun that is both reliable and that small, but it is both of them. I have only shot mine about 150 rounds but it has been 100%. Like Double-O-Dave said, they are a bear to take apart and reassemble. And working the slide is not something for those with arthritis.

I let some of my fellow officers shoot it. One said, "That's really handy when you can't carry a gun."

My Seecamp 32 is a real jewel, one that goes when others cannot. I am 100% pleased with it, though more recently, a S&W pre-model 37 Airweight, Colt Detective Special, and Colt Cobra have taken the Seecamp's place in my right, front pocket. The Seecamp hides lots better, though.

"...Mr. Seecamp (William?) was a very talented gunsmith and gun designer. His first product was a frame kit to convert the single action 1911 into a double action..."

Ludwig Seecamp though everyone called him Louis. He worked as a gun design specialist and R&D person for Mossberg for nearly 25yrs after coming to the USA in the late 50's.
I started working at OFM at their Pederson Custom Gun Div just before Seecamp retired. The guy was an icon of sorts there. Kind of like Brophy was at the MArlin factory.
Though Mossberg and a guy like Seecamp seem to be an odd match, he designed a large number of mechanisms that never went to production under the OFM name, but I'd imagine the rights were sold for some fair $$.
A survivor of the Eastern Front, he wore a large facial scar from a near fatal encounter from those days. I was told he was missing teeth and jaw bone also, but I certainly wasn't one to ask him about it!

His 25DA pistols came about well after his retirement from OFM. The DA 45auto thing had been pretty much filled by factory offerings so he designed the small DA only pistols off of the Czech '36 and '45 25acp pistols.
His son, Larry (his given name in German I can't recall) was in business with him after his retirement from OFM. They had several patents on 45acp pistol parts and designs. I think the Seecamp 25/32 DA pistols patents are in Louis' name. Not that it matters.

The little Seecamps were the mouse gun to have when they first came out and a waiting list at most shops was all you found. Scalper prices at shows when one did appear and I know a couple people that paid dearly for the opportunity to own.
I never had a Seecamp but do have a CZ45. I like it a lot.

I HAVE BOTH A .32 AND 380 SEECAMP FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WORK GREAT, RUN FINE. LOTS OF SAFETY FEATURES. NO PROBLEM WITH EITHER OF MINE EVER. CARRIED ONE OF THEM EVERY DAY FOR SEVERAL YEARS,AND STILL DO. ONLY NEGATIVE I HAVE FOUND IS THAT DUE TO THEIR VERY SMALL SIZE THE SIT HEAVY IN THE POCKET. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE STATED THEY ARE HEAVY. THEY AREN'T REALLY HEAVY, BUT WHAT THEY WEIGH COMPARED TO THEIR SIZE ,THEY CAN FEEL HEAVY IN THE POCKET. KIND OF LIKE HAVE A ROLL OF NICKELS IN YOU POCKET. DENSE AND HEAVY FEELING. BUT THE SAME NUMBER OF LOOSE NICKELS FEELS BETTER IN THE POCKET BUTS WEIGHS THE SAME. WORTH IT YES. JP

Just picked one up last week. Completely stripped it and bought some new springs. Hopefully get it to the range next week.

I almost bought one awhile back since I was looking for something small to carry when I couldn't carry my Shield 9 or my 640 Pro. I was attracted to the reputation of the company and the quality of the gun. But when I found out the company was sold and I saw more and more complaints about picky ammo and shoddy work on the new guns on the Seecamp forum. It made me change my mind. So I bought a Ruger LCP and it has functioned flawlessly with Speer Gold Dots.

Way back one of my fellow Troopers carried one on the job, in the cuff case on his duty belt. I shot it twice, both times at quarterly Quals. Neat little gun, but at the time, uber expensive and tough to find. He carried Winchester Silvertips as recommended by the maker.
His seemed to function just fine.

I carried a 2" M-60 in the inside pocket of my winter coat at the time. My 125 gr +P rds made a FAR stronger impact on steel than his .32 did. I always remember that as well.

The 32acp round doesn't get the recognition it deserves. It isn't going to pass FBI tests, but it will get the job done in most circumstances the average civilian will face. I'd rather carry a 32 than a 380, a round I think has the recoil of a 9mm with penetration that isn't that much better than a 32.

I have the Seecamp LS380, the .380 caliber version. (The .25, .32 and .380 are all the same size.) I purchased it with a "custom" serial number back when the wait time for a direct factory order was nine months.

Seecamp is the Rolex of pocket pistols. They're a pleasure to behold. Superb fit and finish and hand fitted quality in every aspect.

The .380 is definitely is not fun to shoot but mine has run with 100% reliability any ammo I've fed it. For what it was designed , a point-and-shoot, pocket pistol, belly gun, it's perfect.

However, since the proliferation of tiny lightweight tupperware pocket pistols and my purchase of a Ruger LCP, my tiny Seecamp pretty much lives in my desk drawer destined to become, alas, a "family heirloom".

I've now acquired an array of of little carry guns including the above mentioned LCP, a Springfield XDS .45 acp and a Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special, the last two offering a lot more fire power in a tiny, lightweight package.

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Illegitimi Non Carborundum

I think Rohrbaugh holds that distinction. I've always thought of Seecamp as the Omega Seamaster of pocket pistols.

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USS Brewton FF1086
SWCA#3597

Ha ha! OK, I'll go with your analogous comparisons. They work for me.

I also owned a Rohrbaugh R9. But, they sort of became "obsolete" after the slew of miniature 9 mm pistols hit the marketplace a few years ago.

I traded mine (took a beating on it, too) a few years ago. Some folks claimed their Rohrbaugh's were picky eaters but I never had any problems with mine. (Though I followed Eric Rohrbaugh's advise and shot it seldom but carried it a a lot.)

I remember they were working on a .45 acp model. Even taking deposits, but I don't think that it ever came to market. (That too would now be "obsolete" with the perfection of the awesome Springfield XDs).

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Illegitimi Non Carborundum

Quiet1, I'll have to admit I've never shot a Rohrbaugh, nor even handled one. I'm just going by their nearly mythical reputation as THE pocket pistol to have. As someone who actually owned one, how does the fit and finish compare to the Seecamp's? I've always wanted one and watch them from time to time on GB, but it would be hard to justify the inflated prices they are now bringing. There was one on either FGT or Armslist a few months back at a St. Pete pawn shop that went for just under $1K if I remember correctly, but even in the pictures, there was evident wear and apparent abuse to it.

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USS Brewton FF1086
SWCA#3597

Mine was certainly well made. And as stated above it went bang every time I pulled the trigger. But, since this thread is about the Seecamp, for me it just never had the cachet, the genuine satisfaction of holding it and marveling at it's precision, feel and beauty that a Seecamp engenders. (A thing of beauty is a joy forever.)

At the time it was the only game in town for a really small, light weight 9 mm pocket pistol. But, now that there are so many other choices, honestly, I personally would recommend spending your $$ on something else. Just my opinion. There are a lot of hard core Rohrbaugh zealots out there that would vehemently disagree with me.

Here's a photo of my Seecamp.


Here is a size comparison with my LCP.

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I have a very early production 32ACP. Friend of mine purchased it circa 1985, I'm thinking. Is that possible, when were they first manufactured? Anyway, a few years later he was having some financial distress due to a bad divorce. He offered me the gun for $100 and I said no, it was worth much more than that, but he said if I'd hold it for him and sell it back for $125 within a year, that's what he wanted to do. He never bought it back. I tried to give it to him once and he said no, that the money had helped when he needed it and he didn't need the gun, so I still have it.

I've shot it occasionally over the years. Great little gun, nothing beats it for compact size really. I don't carry it often, but occasionally will when I want maximum concealment in a suit.

Another bump up of an older thread. Just purchased one and love it. Any new ones out there? Mine is Southwick Ma. Made.

I picked one up in the early 90s when they were the hot pocket pistol to own, a gunshop owner friend of mine wanted one and he could get a smokin deal if he bought 5 at a time. I bought one and other shooting friends bought one so we got them at cost when they were selling for around $800. I think we got ours around $350. I never got around to shooting mine and decided that it was too expensive a firearm to carry so I traded for a Smith 52.

SWCA 892

I really like mine; I obtained it just about 3 years ago. EXCEPT....

I have yet to cause it to shoot a full mag of anything, including Silvertips. But I'm not done yet. One of these days it and I will spend some solitary time together and I'll tame it.

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Come and take it!!

Big fan of Seecamp; history of the company, quality, unique design , etc. My EDC for four years; I carry the .32acp daily in a Jackson Leather pocket holster. Love these things, and currently looking for the .25acp ( just because-like a Rolex watch that is seldom worn.), to go with the .32 and .380 to round out the tri-fecta

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I got mine at a LGS that did not inflate the list price. .32, as they get a big premium for same gun in .380.
Yes, to Silvertips, but other stuff works too. PMC JHPs for practice, and I was touted onto WWB, and yes they work.
Lovely little gun. You gotta pay attention to the directions.
Sure is not a range gun. I have to get closer for hits, than say with my LCP Custom that actually has sights.

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It's what I do, not what I am.

I have the .32, a fine pocket pistol designed by a great gentleman trained in the pre-war German guild system. I shoot PMC hollowpoints in mine with total
Reliability and pleasing accuracy. No keyholing here.
Still relevant today to anyone who appreciates a fine firearm.

Have had this one since the 90’s ... haven’t shot it much, but it’s reliable.
Carries like a rock in a pocket - thing is solid stainless. Needs a nice pocket sheath.

One of the first to come out of Milford. It goes where no others can.

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Sure you did

Love mine...



It is a tiny little pocket .32 that was hand made.



I got mine through dumb luck. Back in the late 90s they were up to a year wait. One came into my LGS and the guy that originally ordered it passed. So right then and there I got it. Wallet broke the sound barrier to pay the FFL for the gun.