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Old 09-11-2016, 12:23 PM
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I was able to go shooting yesterday (sorry, no pics) with my son, and we took a few of our pistols out for a nice run. Indoor range, but a very relaxed place.

I brought a few 9mm pistols:
S&W 915, CZ 75, Beretta 92FS, Hi Power (Feg clone), Star 30MI, and Zastava CZ99. My son also brought his CZ 75. We shot basic range fodder I've gathered, mostly S&B (I really like that ammo).
Also brought along his Argentine Mauser and put a few rounds downrange, something my shoulder can attest to this morning

Shot at around 25 ft, and then I pushed it out to 25 yds for a few with my CZ 75. Overall, I was very pleased with all of them.

Kind of odd, as my shooting changed over the distance. I'm a lefty, and at 25 ft, for most of my pistols, I push things a little to the four or five o'clock area. According to the troublshooting target I found here

I'm a little more on the tightening fingers part, than on the jerking part. That's normally where I shoot, and it's usu off at a distance that I find acceptable; shooting offhand and not braced, I get about 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups, centered about an inch off of dead center. This stays consistent over different ranges, I'm not missing any further at greater distances.

What's weird that while the CZ 75 was a tight, 1 inch group at about the 8 ring (all in the black) and definitely towards 4 o'clock at 25 ft, I took an empty box of S&B ammo (about the size of a 3x5 card), ran it out to the very back of the range (just over 25 yds, or 75 ft), and shot with about the same level of concentration, and put 5 of 5 rds on paper. No drift to the right. I aimed at the paperclip and the POI was centered about 5 inches below. For the record, I am extremely happy with this, as I just shoot for the fun of it! I just find it odd that I didn't drift out to the right like I do at closer distances.

Some other observations- each gun has it's own characteristics, but I find each to be acceptably accurate. The triggers obviously vary, so I understand that changing guns around in a session isn't the best for my technique (but again, it's all in fun). I put a magazine through each, and shot at a 6 target paper (the kind with 6 different geometric shapes on it). Shot in this rotation:
S&W 915, Beretta 92, Hi Power, Star, CZ 75, CZ99.
The Hi Power usu gives me trouble with the sights (to the point to where I wondered if the barrel was shot out), but this session I found that I was able to group it with the others. I think the poor sights and noticably different trigger just throws me off, and if I can steady it and focus better, I shoot it as well as the rest.
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Old 09-11-2016, 01:50 PM
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Ah, life is good. I bet you still have a smile on your face. I am a lefty as well and suffer the same challenge.
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:54 PM
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Here are some shots of the pistols; ****** cell phone images (sorry)
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:55 PM
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and since I was limited to 5 per post, here's the sixth
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:26 PM
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Sounds like a great time to me. The CZ75 and the 92 are two pistols I hope to shoot someday.
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Oh, I definitely had a blast! The CZ 75 and Beretta 92 are a pair of "legends" that live up to the hype for me. Interestingly enough, the Hi Power is one that gives me trouble, and although it may be because it's a clone, I think the issue really goes to the design, not the manufacturer.

A brief note on each pistol, from my perspective:

S&W 915. 3rd Gen tech, with an aluminum frame. Smooth trigger with very short reset, this one has night sights so I got a good 3 dot picture, very comfortable with a lively little muzzle flip. Probably the lightest gun I shot. Factory Delrin straight back grip, fits my hand well.

Beretta 92SF. Larger gun, same basic control layout and operation. Very smooth slide action, longer sight radius, less flip. Also have night sights, got about the same picture I did with the S&W. Trigger has a longer reset. Hogue rubber grip panels feel great, a nice compromise between looks and feel.

Hi Power. I don't think the fact that it is made by Feg instead of FN makes a lot of difference; the gun shoots true, if I can hold it steady on target. Old sights make that a little harder, and the trigger is noticeably different than the rest, even when they are SA (and yes, I have removed the magazine safety, so that did help the trigger. A lot). I find it comfortable, but the muzzle wanders a little unless I really, really lock in. Original wood grips.

Star 30MI. Absolutely the total opposite of a "glock" in design; this is solid steel, finely crafted and very slick, with some odd external controls. The safety disengages the firing pin, but nothing else; so you can pull the trigger and drop the hammer without firing... if you so choose. For shooting, it's a joy, it completely soaks up felt recoil to the point where it feels like a 22lr. Unique sight picture, 2 red dots on the rear, a white vertical line on the front blade. Slide rides inside the frame, like the CZ 75. And did I say solid? I don't exaggerate when I say that I believe you could hit this gun with a hammer, and wouldn't bend or break it. It feels like it is an anvil that has been machined into a frame and slide, with openings for the barrel and magazine. Factory rubber grips.

CZ 75. My baby . A pre B from '92, no firing pin block, rounded trigger guard. Extremely smooth, worn in trigger, with a tight click for the reset. Despite being all steel, the weight distribution, to me, doesn't feel heavy, just firm- if you get my point. Despite resembling the Hi Power in appearance, it doesn't point the same to me; the grip (factory rubber panels) seems to meld to my hand, and the muzzle feels like a weightless extension of the grip. It points effortlessly, for me. Narrow front sight blade against the rear notch is a little tougher to pick up than the 3 dot of the S&W and Beretta, but also allows for a little more precision. Of all my pistols, this is the one I feel the best with, if it came to something like shooting clothes pins. I bought another, an '89, for my son.

Zastava CZ 99. Most recent addition, still getting accustomed to it. Was an "ugly gun special" from Coles, but it's in the same condition as most I see online (slide is matte blued nicely, aluminum frame has an enamel paint job that comes off if you look at it hard. I've decided to address that by rubbing it with a scotchbrite pad and putting some Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black on the fresh white aluminum).
Shoots fine, if different. Definitely to point of aim. 3 dot sights, I believe they're dead night sights. Easy to acquire.
Trigger is like an exaggerated S&W, without the very short reset. Long pull, but very smooth, and then a clean break. Feels very much like a revolver, and not very heavy pull for what it does. Big, bulky but not heavy, points well. For those interested in such things, there is no external safety; the slide release is also the decocker, and everything is ambidextrous.

I own others, but this was 9mm Doublestack day for me. And boy, was it fun!
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