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My father was a lineman with the 71st Infantry Division and brought this PP back from Germany.
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That serial should put it around March 1938.
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All you guys should join up the Walther forum. Lots of great people and great info on there. All questions can be answered there.
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Have absolutely 0 interest in joining the "Walther forum"....
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Walther PP series--got any?
Not you buddy. I wasn't talking to you. They have "0" interest in your kind over there anyway. I was talking to other Walther fans who posted in this thread. You came here just to reject an invitation not directed at you. Go back under the bridge with the other trolls. Lol
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My 1970 vintage Interarms 22 cal ppks just jammed on me today, the extractor failed to eject the spent round! Been shooting it using CCI mini mags and it is my carry gun. This is the first jam in over 30 years, shoot it almost daily, 11 to 31 rounds, carry three magazines.
I was just thinking how dependable it had been. Can't be too critical!
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That serial should put it around March 1938.
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That was a privately purchased pistol, most likely an officer's sidearm as commissioned officers bought their own handguns.
As a sidenote, I am always amazed at all the Lugers that have WaA markings that were almost exclusively taken off officers .
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Not you buddy. I wasn't talking to you. They have "0" interest in your kind over there anyway. I was talking to other Walther fans who posted in this thread. You came here just to reject an invitation not directed at you. Go back under the bridge with the other trolls. Lol
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I suspect many of the Walther fans here are already members of the Walther Forum.
The two forums share a lot in common, in terms of being inhabited (for the most part) by polite folks who don't rant away with radical or offensive opinions and it's also devoid of political discussion.
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That was a privately purchased pistol, most likely an officer's sidearm as commissioned officers bought their own handguns.
As a sidenote, I am always amazed at all the Lugers that have WaA markings that were almost exclusively taken off officers .
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Thanks. I'm not sure how he came to have it. He never talked about his experiences during the war.
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I only have the one its a 67 380 and the only import markings on it is the right grip where it is marked interarms, nothing at all on the metal of the gun shows import markings just the right grip
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I had an interarms SS ppk/s a long time ago, sold it, regretted it...then found this old ppk a few years ago at a pawnshop. This is as found with a mismatched ppk/s magazine and horribly fitting replacement grips.
Haven't shot it much, since its more of a historical piece than a shooter and .32 is so expensive anyways.
I picked up another .380 interarms ppk/s for when I want to feel like Bond.
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I have two PPKs, a Walther .380 made in about 1979, and imported on a special exemption available then for Police Officers (the PPK was too small to be imported after 1968). I filled out the paper work, and ordered it from I think Interarms, who processed the one time imports. I still have it, but no photo handy. Also a .32 PPK which has Nazi stamps, but may be a pre war manufacture. I'll try to get some photos of both and post.
Wonderful little guns, and as someone already said: Grperman engineering and manufacture, and James Bond, how can you go wrong?
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I have 3...A 1957 NATO marked PPK/L 32, A 1940 Swedish Police PP with factory lanyard ring 32 & a .22 PP made in 1960. All shoot very well!
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My 1977 Manurhin / Ulm PPK, chambered in .22 lr. (So I don't have to crawl around on the ground looking for my empty brass.)
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PPK/S in 22 Cal
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Latest family photo with a PP Super I just picked up. Also shown is a German PPK and a German PPK/S.
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My only complaints about the fine guns are they throw brass into the next county and its awful hard to sort out the .32s and .380s from all the damned 9mm laying all over the place. I'm doing good if I get half of it back.
That's what prompted me to recently buy the PPK/S .22. So far, I'm lovin' it.
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My only complaints about the fine guns are they throw brass into the next county and its awful hard to sort out the .32s and .380s from all the damned 9mm laying all over the place. I'm doing good if I get half of it back.
That's what prompted me to recently buy the PPK/S .22. So far, I'm lovin' it.
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I hear you. I try to shoot on weekday afternoons to avoid the crowds and on the member side I can usually get the range to myself, or at least one end of the range to myself.
9mm brass is first cheap on the used market, while .38 ACP and .32 ACP isn't nearly as cheap, when you can find it. .380 ACP in particular is hard to sort from a pile of 9mm para brass.
I also shoot at my farther in law's farm on weekends and yesterday I chose to leave my Hi Power and centerfire PP and PPK/S pistols home and take my 686, plus a few .22 LR pistols (Beretta Model 71, PP and PPK/S) just so I would not have to go looking very far for brass in the leaf litter.
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Of course California law requires me to twiddle my thumbs for ten days before I can actually take possession, but still... Yay!
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My only pocket Walther (I've owned a few P-38s): a Manurhin PP, probably for some police force that couldn't buy the German guns.
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Just this one. My Dad got this one right at the end of the war from a German lieutenant in a mass-surrender. It had never been fired (was full of cosmoline) and to this day has never been fired. He felt safe to take it by that point in the war - he said that if the Germans captured you and found ANY German weapons or souvenirs, they shot you on the spot.
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I had also posted that on the Walther forum two weeks ago.
My youngest son told me a few weeks ago that an aunt from Washington, D.C., was sending him and his cousin each a gun. When he unpacked his at the gun store it was a Walther PP that came from the estate of his great uncle Dr. Guy E. Abraham.
My sons both were born in his house in Rolling Hills, CA, as he was following my wife in the last months of the pregnancy. So, while his favorite niece was busy with the new born babys, her uncle and I went shooting and I got him into buying a few guns. Among others he got an HK P7M8 and P7M13 and the Walther PP, which turned out to be his favorite.
To my surprise, he was an exceptionally good shot and informed me that he had been on his university pistol team when I remarked that he shot very well. Actually it is not too surprising from a man who excelled at everthing, was a professor at USC, had his private jet plane and had over 100 articles published in JAMA.
Guy had always said that the guns should go to my sons but he passed away a few years ago and my inquiries for the guns yielded nothing and I almost forgot about them. I just found out what happened to them; that one aunt from Washington, D.C. ( a corrupted city in any way!) had taken all guns and sold them off in the family and another aunt secured the two guns for her nephews, knowing that those two are really into guns and shooting.
So, Micki finally got the gun he was to inherit, in the box, the original grips that had been inside and the magazines missing.
He is very excited and happy to have the favorite gun of his uncle! In a way it came home.
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Have had a few over the years... Couple of years ago several kinda fell in my lap at reasonable prices so they came home with me...
First was a PP in .22, then a German police gun in .32 to match. Then happened across two German made PPK/Ss at good prices so bought them...
They shoot well.
Have not shot them all that much...and really like the ergonomics of the Beretta 87 Cheetah more...
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We still have a few other Walther rifles from their golden times; a .22 PP ZM, a KKJ, a P1, and a P88.
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1952 Manhurin PP in .32acp I bought for $225 from a local shop about 2 years ago. Even came with both mags, but no box. I swapped out the grips, as one of the Manhurin grips had a small piece missing.
Just shot it again yesterday. Now that I'm retired, I can get my guns to the range once or twice a week.
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My .22 from '75. Once upon a time the Interarms import logos were nicely engraved and did not detract imho.
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Added a new family member.
I added a new member to the family, a 380 German made PP.
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Do those of you using the .32's find them ammo-sensitive? I think the semi-rimmed case may vary a bit from one manufacturer to another and that might affect reliability. The .380 is a rimless case, like a miniature .45 ACP.
I had an exchange of letters with Geoffrey Boothroyd about that and I thought that James Bond should have carried a .380, both for reliability and for added power.
Boothroyd reminded me that the PPK was Fleming's idea; that he had suggested a S&W .38 Centennial Airweight, instead. But Fleming, who had gone armed as an agent in WWII, liked the added concealibility of small autos.
Boothroyd said that he wasn't aware of any added reliability probems in 7.65mm and that the smaller calber gave one more round in the magazine. He doubted that there'd be much difference in stopping power, these small cartridges relying on precise placement to affect a quick kill. I think he was right.
However, an article in, Guns & Ammo, by a German reader, cited a German police test that found that the Model PP jammed an average of once in 50 rounds. This probably helped lead to German cops adopting 9mm guns in the 1970's.
I've owned just one Walther, a prewar Model PP in excellent shape. It was VERY accurate, but I got the occasional jam with US ammo and seldom found Geco or other Euro ammo.
I sold it and got a dead-reliable Beretta M-34 .380 to fill that need. The Beretta had a very heavy trigger pull and 25 yard offhand groups reflected that. It wasn't quite as accurate as the Walther, but the heavy trigger was the main reason. But it never failed to cycle wth US ammo, mostly Remington 95 grain ball.
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I have only one Walther PP---a 1969 PP in 22lr---about 98.5-99% condition with orig gator box and three factory mags---I've shot it a bunch over several decades---reliable and accurate---surprisingly accurate---I have the orig grips with it, but it's currently fitted with Hogue fully checked nice wood grips (early style)---I've also gotten two TPHs stainless in 22lr---also surprisingly accurate and very reliable with CCI Stingers… A couple other Walthers drifted by and stayed---a P5 9mm commercial model (not surplus) I bought new on a whim from a gun store I was managing---nobody wanted them at the time---I should have bought the one P5C that showed-up, but the money instead got sucked-up by a new (at the time) Swiss P210-2 and then the factory 22lr conversion kit---damn, I wish I had bought the P5C too...
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I have gun that saved my life when I was carjacked in my (then) new ZR1 Corvette....
Then my bedroom drawer gun for years, which I gave to my daughter since she was born in 1968...
Liked it so much that I had a newer one dehorned and trigger honed and stippled....
Then there is the alloy lightweight (these are truly valuable guns). Best of all it is a tack driver...I shot a few bowling pin matches...shot at head and blew off all the pins in short order... amazing gun.
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There are some very nice Walthers posted here. While mine are older, from another era, I'll post some of them as well. This first one is wartime, Danish police issue.
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I only have this one, I'm told it is a 1961 vintage:
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I'm not expert in semi autos, but I own , hearited from grandpa , a PPK cal 7.65 Browning identical to armorer951: the different underlug near the muzzle and the marking "waffenfabrik Zella Mehlis" indicates a production before the destruction of the factory during the WWII. After that the pistols were manufactured in Ulm.
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Okay, I'll try it again. I had some trouble with my post a few days ago. I wanted to post a total of four pictures, but I was only able to get one loaded. Here are the two more. The first is a mid war PP, Wehrmacht marked. The lanyard loop was added post war by the French(?). The second on is marked on the grip strap, R.F.V.. for Reichsfinanzverwaltung. This was the IRS of the Third Reich.
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And yet, one more. This one is a prewar model PPK, with holster, from 1935.
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I have gun that saved my life when I was carjacked in my (then) new ZR1 Corvette....
Then my bedroom drawer gun for years, which I gave to my daughter since she was born in 1968...
Liked it so much that I had a newer one dehorned and trigger honed and stippled....
Then there is the alloy lightweight (these are truly valuable guns). Best of all it is a tack driver...I shot a few bowling pin matches...shot at head and blew off all the pins in short order... amazing gun.
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Beautiful pieces! I've got a 1964 manufacture Walther PP in .32 ACP. Nice little pistol. Needs a new magazine though.
Glad one of Walthers came in handy...The dummy who tried to carjack you probably wouldn't have been able to drive the 6spd in your ZR-1 anyway. Most people can't drive a stick. Thanks for sharing the photos and the story. Stay safe!
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