Long time ago, the rules for carrying a knife was, no lock blade (like a Opinel or a S.A. knife)and a blade not exceeding the wide of your hand (no kidding)so approximately 4 inches...Knifes, for a long time was the weapon of choice for thugs ! As you said it it depend a lot on appearance...and the cop...Self defense situation with a blade ? it depend on the circonstance, and the proportionality of the attack/defense..(both guy armed) ...As for being arrested with a knife (a big, fixed, blade).. in town...? don't know..never happen to me or to the gun people i know. Again, it depend on the circonstances of the arresting...In most of the cases, Policeman will do a "soft" background check (criminal record), but have no access to your gun license. But if you should have lawsuit, hum, i think you will be in trouble...

You nailed it.

I just bought a Lightning "out-the-front" double action switchblade from Blade Play. It's supposed to be pretty good quality and it has the double edge dagger style blade. It was on sale and marked down to about 33 bucks.

Unfortunately, they're illegal in Michigan. Our knife laws are really bad!

You can only carry a folding knife, and the blade has to be single edge, and 3" or less. Added to that, in some cities, such as Dearborn, you can't carry one at all!

It's probably illegal, as a folding dagger.

The 3" is covered under an arcane provision about illegal to carry if the INTENT is to harm another person. AFAIK, it's legal to carry a long blade fixed or folder, just don't commit a crime with it. Whatever crazy weapon laws are still on the books had their origin in assuring that fights in lumber camps were "fair". Amusing bit of Michigan history.
BTW if I were to be in possession of an illegal weapon I wouldn't post about it on the internet.

If you're talking to me... I didn't.

Great knife! I have one I use often. Very durable and the double action hasn't failed me In two years of hard use!

I wish to thank everyone that replied to my inquiry about self-opening knives, I learned a lot.

I currently have two pockets knives which I consider fine everyday carry knives. One is a 30 year old Puma that weighs too much and the other the Spyderco Delica 4 that I've been carrying for about five years now. I have had many other knives which I've carried from time to time, Buck 2 3/4" drop points have been favorites which I've worn out and lost many. The Syperco Delica 4 I currently carry is the second Spyderco VG-10 steel blade that I have owned.

I decided to buy a new knife for myself. I do that every five or so years. An auto opener would be neat, but that's not the kind of knife I'm used to. I guess I'm an old fuddy duddy I orderd another Delica 4 from Amazon... , but this one is tacticool black. I thought abought buying another Spyderco VG-10 model, but decided I'm comfortable and confident with the Delica.

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ABSOLUTELY!!!!!! Been there and don't want to elaborate

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It is legal in KS to carry automatic knives. Any knife I carry must have a 4" blade. I have a couple of assist opening knives, and one automatic knife. I usually carry the automatic knife, it is an SOG.

My new black Delica 4 came in today. To me it is a wow knife. My old Delica 4 in modest green will remain my carry every day, the new guy will be for formal occasions. Just for the challenge I ordered a Spyderco Endura Emerson opener. The Endura is a bit bigger knife than I have liked in the past and I ordered a flat ground blade. I figure that if I can learn how the Emerson opener works it will be way cool. We'll see and learn.

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Congrats on the Spydie!

I've been bitten by a Spyderbug.

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I think those may run into problems with rules against public carry of double edged knives. Those rules may have been relaxed in Texas too. I just do not know.

As for KY.your can carry whatever you want to'I have many folding knives and fixed blades. A few of my folding knives.

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No laws like that here in GA.

TexMex:

It looks like they deliberately made up a list of all the fun things that I would want to carry around with me!! Dag Nab it!

Best Regards, Les

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Been carrying a Boker auto every day for 5 years. Security blanket

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I've been carrying my new Spyderco Endura with the Emerson Wave Opener on my morning walks for about a month now and have had time to practice with it. It comes out of my pocket and deploys the blade so fast I do not think an automatic knife could be faster.

We had a neighborhood safety meeting about ten days ago and a police officer attended. There were some older ladies there that were going to form a neighborhood watch patrol. These ladies were militant and ready to shoot bad guys down. I do not think any of them had ever been in a fight or understood what fighting is about.

I strolled past the officer, got a piece of pizza, and started talking about my predawn walks and run ins with stray dogs. Then I said because I feared a dog turning me into hamburger meat I had upgraded my knife and slowly pulled it out of my pocket. Before anyone realized what I had done, the blade clicked and locked open, and I asked the officer what he thought of it. He went... Wow, let me see that thing! I handed it over, turned to the ladies, and said that is how fast things can happen.

Of course the ladies start asking... that is illegal, isn't it? The officer shakes his head, says it is perfectly legal, hands the knife back to me, and shakes my hand.

The next day everyone was talking about how great the meeting was. It was a good meeting even without my little impromptu demo.

Agreed. The only thing I don't own out of that list is a spear . . .

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Kershaw makes some good ones. I had one of their older Breakouts. Think those are a bit rare nowadays.
On the topic of putting zipties on your delica. You don't need to move your arm quickly. You can even catch it on the side of your pants making it not necessary to move your arm anywhere but sideways. And lets be honest, if you're relying on your knife for self defense you aren't doing something right. If you do put one on then be careful. Like, don't push the blade towards the pivot like I did. Accidentally stabbed my hand putting one on. Actually scared my hand.

Graphic!! YE BE WARNED
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My breakout

Love those pictured Microtechs!! Thanks to those who shared with us.

I'm confused, thought this was now legal in Texas.

I have neglected to share a picture of my Benchmade EDC's. One clipped on the pocket, one in the pocket. Sometimes all I carry is the Impel in my pocket. Depends on my mood. I've lost about four Benchmade gents knife autos over the years, but as you can tell, I've held on to the Mini Reflex II for a while . . .

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It is now. A couple of years back a state bill governing knives and illegal weapons was written that specifically stated that the state laws overruled local ordinances which were stricter. The ordinances still exists, but are not enforceable. Over 5.5", double edged, daggers, spears, Bowie knives (I believe a true Bowie is double edged and over 5.5") are pretty much illegal to carry, but they are legal to own.

Well, Muss, that's my favorite Benchmade as well. This is my most carried EDC knife, I've had it since I think 1995 or 1996. I used to use it on the trout streams, really handy to have an auto opener, but the spring went kafooey, and after carefully making sure there weren't any trout innards inside, I sent it back to Benchmade in 1998 or 1999, they made good on their warranty, replaced the spring, and even sharpened it....and it's been running fine ever since. I have several other Benchmade Autos, but this is in my opinion the most useful and handy size for EDC.



I have a number of other "switchblades" as well, including one that has very little intrinsic value, but has a lot of sentimental value...it was given to me on my first trip to Moscow, by my Russian police friend, as a souvenir, it had been confiscated from a Russian street hood. Just a cheap Italian made switchblade, but looking at it brings back memories of that trip, and my friend, who has since passed away. I didn't even think about passing through customs when I threw it in my luggage, but no one said anything along the line. Of course, that was pre 9/11.

Best Regards, Les

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All are legal to carry if you have a LTC and are carrying your handgun.

Texas Code 46:02 states...

Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club .....

Texas Code 46:15 Non-Applicability

(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:

(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a concealed handgun;

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As a Marine Engineer back in the 60s and 70s I carried switch blades sourced in Spain. Great when working when you only have to use one hand to get the thing open. I now carry a Benchmade 470 (much better steel). Got nothing to do with West Side Story.

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Gotta love Texas.

My EDC: (Glock G29 10mm and HK Turmoil OTF knife)

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Because of Section 46.15 and I have a permit I can carry any of these:

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I was told by a gun shop owner who also sold automatic knives that there was legislation being introduced to make them legal to carry here in WI. I haven't heard anything else about since and that was over a year ago. I ought to check up on that.

I was told by my CCW instructor who is also an LEO that we can carry any knife we wanted expect for a switchblade so long as we had a CCP.

Been collecting for years now. I would recommend Knives and Outdoor Gear at Blade HQ | Gear Up For Adventure. they have a huge selection and are good people to buy from. They have all the major brands, Microtech, Benchmade, Piranha, etc.

My .02:

They're fun to play with, but seeing as how a decent folder can be flicked open from a useful grip as fast or even faster, I see no need for one.

No offense intended, just an observation: I see it as similar to a butterfly knife, in that your average street person thinks they're super-cool and scary, even though a basic, legal flickable folder would be open & in use in about a tenth of the time it takes to open a butterfly knife.

My usual pocketknife is a Cold Steel Hold Out.

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My opinion is they're easier and safer to close and put back in the pocket one handed...

Pennsylvania's gun laws are very clear, the knife laws are fifty shades of vague, with no statewide preemption statute. Switchblades, gravity knives and double edged blade knives are illegal to carry. There is no official blade length statute. Assisted opening knives like the Kershaw Speed Safe series are sold just about everywhere and seem to be legal under the state definitions. Ballisong knives are legal, as long as the blade is not double edged. That said, everybody thinks they are illegal here. Local jurisdictions can make up just about any knife rules they see fit.

I carry a 3 inch blade assisted opening knife all the time. In 90% of the state it is no big deal, however it seems all knives are illegal to carry in Philadelphia.

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Per-maybe-haps if you have an auto-retracting OTF knife. For the other 99.9% of autos, it's a two-handed operation, unlike basic lock back folders.


Yikes, that sounds like a nightmare to deal with. We have some odd laws in CA, for instance (the last time I checked) it's legal to own a full auto or a push knife, but it's illegal to carry them. Butterfly knives are illegal, but with a few local exceptions there's no limit to the size of a pocket knife, hence the 6" Hold Out.

My biggest beef in CA wasn't with the law per se, but with some police agencies that arrested anyone who had a knife that could be opened with a flick of the wrist, for carrying a switchblade. The really sad part is that some of the knives involved actually couldn't be opened that way; apparently the cops thought their fantasy over-rode reality.

We finally got a ruling that stated the law actually meant what it said, and not what a cop wanted it to mean.

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Haha...definitely not 'per-maybe-haps'....it IS easier and safer for one handed operation if it is an OTF double action auto.

Like these....

Good-lookin' knives ya got there.

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Here are a few switchblades:

A rare 3-blade German leverlock by Hubertus (left side of photo).

A German leverlock by Boker (right side of photo).

Two large Italian button-types by Beltrame.


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Interesting knife, deadin. Never seen one like that. Are they still made today?


[Late edit: I just watched a video of one of those knives, deadin. If you practice, you can open it fast, like a switchblade. Cool knife: a Kershaw E.T.].

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True... You can even donate a little blood during the practice... (Don't ask how I know...)

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SWCA #680 SWHF #446

I see a few Boker Kalishnikov 74s on this thread. I have owned switchblades forever and ever amen but I wouldn't carry one until the law changed. I have my Boker Kalishnikov 74 on me right now.

What I would never carry is the classic "stiletto" switchblade, with the big protruding button on the handle. I carried one of those for years when I was younger and (1) it would often open if I bumped into something, (2) after it opened it would be almost impossible to remove without undressing unless you didn't mind slicing your pocket, and (3) after awhile they will break - they are not extremely well made.

The way Texas changed is was to DROP switchblade knives from the list of illegal knives in the definitions section:

Realize that the "knife" definition is VERY broad so any item that can be even incidentally identified as a blade is a knife but that doesn't make knives illegal, just broadly defines them. Sections 6 (A) through (F) define an illegal knife but very few folks know what a dirk and a poniard are, some folks understand stiletto, so you can see you still have some broad strokes to consider when carrying fixed blade cutting tools.

As an addendum, and BTW I have no idea what that Corpus Christie item is above but cities in Texas can't pass weapons laws that are preempted by Texas state law, I thought I would post some pictures of knives that I routinely carry. These are only four of the assortment I can and sometimes do carry.

I plan to start a new thread on the Christy sliding blade knife.

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