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Old 12-27-2016, 10:59 PM
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Hey Folks,

As some of you may know, my brother gave me an old model 12, 20 gauge for Christmas. Needless to say I'm happy as pigs in poop!

Got home today and field stripped the gun to give it a cleaning, and man was it dirty! Anyway, came apart w/o issue, cleaned everything up and proceeded to put everything together. Try as I may, I can not get the bolt retainer bar into the locked position, i.e. can't get the front most tab to slide into the locked position (see the picture). I'm guessing there's a trick to it and am hoping one of you fine members can pass along some pointers.



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Old 12-27-2016, 11:27 PM
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There is a trick, go to you tube and search for Mod 12 Winchester. Then look for the disassembly re assembly videos. I can't remember the trick, but it works.

Enjoy your shotgun.

Have a blessed day,

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Old 12-28-2016, 12:34 AM
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There is a trick, go to you tube and search for Mod 12 Winchester. Then look for the disassembly re assembly videos. I can't remember the trick, but it works.

Enjoy your shotgun.

Have a blessed day,

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Thanks, Watched the videos, everything looks very straight forward, but I can't seem to move the retainer into the locked position. Spent 2 hours screwing with,,,I'm sure it's something pathetically easy that I'm missing! LOL
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:31 AM
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There is no force or prying needed, it's a milled gun. When you
get it right it will fall right in. I'm not good enough to tell you how
to do it, if I had it in my hands it would be no problem.
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:00 AM
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One night I foolishly decided to disassemble a M 12.

Ended up at my gunsmith's house with parts in a paper bag.

He looked at the parts, laughed and asked whether I'd buy him a beer.

I did.

He had the thing back together in a few minutes.

The lesson: don't take it apart unless you know someone who can put it back together.
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I can't provide you with an answer regarding a trick, but I have completely detail-stripped three Model 12 actions, had no problems in getting them re-assembled that I can remember.
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Make sure the bolt retaining lever is in the unlocked position w/the back lug pushed inward toward the bolt.
Put the bolt assembly back into the rec'vr and slide it forward till the locking lug on it's top drops securely into the matching lug seat in the roof of the rec'vr.
Now hold the bolt assembly right there with a finger and press downward on it, You'll feel some spring resistance from the firing pin retractor,,
Bottom out the bolt assembly against that spring tension and seat it in the locking lug cut and hold it there. It's not an awful lot of tension to overcome.
Now with it seated in position and held there.., take your other hand and a small screwdiver,,amd push the front lug on the bolt retaining lever inward towards the bolt.
That will lock the bolt assembly into place.

The bolt retainer lever is just a center pivoting lever with those lugs or tabs on each end. The trick, if there is one is that the bolt has to be seated in it;s locking lug recess and held there under spring tension while it is re-engaged during re-assembly
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Make sure the bolt retaining lever is in the unlocked position w/the back lug pushed inward toward the bolt.
Put the bolt assembly back into the rec'vr and slide it forward till the locking lug on it's top drops securely into the matching lug seat in the roof of the rec'vr.
Now hold the bolt assembly right there with a finger and press downward on it, You'll feel some spring resistance from the firing pin retractor,,
Bottom out the bolt assembly against that spring tension and seat it in the locking lug cut and hold it there. It's not an awful lot of tension to overcome.
Now with it seated in position and held there.., take your other hand and a small screwdiver,,amd push the front lug on the bolt retaining lever inward towards the bolt.
That will lock the bolt assembly into place.

The bolt retainer lever is just a center pivoting lever with those lugs or tabs on each end. The trick, if there is one is that the bolt has to be seated in it;s locking lug recess and held there under spring tension while it is re-engaged during re-assembly
Thanks much, I will fiddle with it when I get home from work.
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I bought a pretty clean old 16 ga Md 12 on GB for the starting bid of
$175 because it "didn't function right" I suspected it wasn't reassembled
correctly, yep.
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Old 12-28-2016, 11:08 PM
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Well, took another poke at it after work. Got her squared away in less than 10 minutes. Used a tiny screwdriver to get behind the rear of the bar and it snapped right in place! Right tool for the job kind a thing apparently!

Thanks for the input folks.

It was pretty dirty inside, but it cleaned up very nicely, no excessive wear, rust or corrosion. The barrel is bright without any pitting and the Poly-choke moves freely and clicks positively into each position. Stock shows wear and the checkering on the foregrip is worn but overall a very nice shooter grade little 20 ga. It was also cool to see and handle the milled receiver and internal components. Those folks really knew how to build them back then!. I'm really loving this little shotgun. Handles well, slick action and just plain neat! Can't wait to put it through it's paces.

Be well all





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Duster--Did you lube it up with that Aunt Jemima syrup in the second picture? Since I have been a member here there seems to be at least a monthly thread on "best gun lube." I have seen dozens of different ones but never Aunt Jemima.

Congratulations on a beautiful old classic.
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Duster--Did you lube it up with that Aunt Jemima syrup in the second picture? Since I have been a member here there seems to be at least a monthly thread on "best gun lube." I have seen dozens of different ones but never Aunt Jemima.

Congratulations on a beautiful old classic.
LOL...hey good eye John. Syrup, it's not just for breakfast anymore! I hear Log Cabin also has protective properties as well, but have yet to try it
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Log Cabin is for the stock and forend.
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