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Ruger 9mm 1911
Took the wife to the range with a friend of ours. We picked up our shield 9s today (review coming soon but amazing weapon) and he brought most of his guns. Had a lot of fun shooting them all, but his Ruger 9mm 1911 blew me away. Every part of it felt like an extension of my arm. I cannot believe how great this pistol felt. The slide, the trigger, the sights, everything felt simply amazing. My wife and I each have a bodyguard and shield 9 and they're both great in their own way (shield miles above bodyguard) but they don't compare to the 1911. I'll now be pinching my pennies to save for the 1911.
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I shot one of my student's lightweight Commander Ruger 1911 9mm this week, and was pleased with the accuracy and quality. I emptied it slowfire into the head of an IDPA target at 10 yds and got a group I could cover with my thumb. My student, who has tended to buy cheap guns an then swap them, said he is inspired to get good with this pistol and keep it. The only change I would make is an FO front sight for fast action pistol shooting.
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I really like my 1911 9mm. It is going to surpass my Shield in range trips next year I believe.
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I bought my first 1911 at the end of October. A ruger SR1911 in 45. It is my favorite now. i still carry my shield everyday though. The 1911 is just too big for me...for now...lol
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I see why. After one range trip, I can see why this is the benchmark for any gun made after it.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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I picked up a Ruger LW Commander 9mm last August. And like breadstick I could not be more impressed! I actually prefer the Commander size to the full GI version, that 3/4 inch really makes a difference for me in terms of balance. Plus, it is just a fine looking pistol.
It is accurate, the trigger is wonderfully crisp, and it has been 100% reliable. What's not to like!
I must admit, I was initially a little nervous about spending so much on this pistol. Not any more.
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The Ruger Sr1911 commander in 9mm carries flat and after day 2, you just don't notice it is there. I looked at it in .45, then I compared ammo prices. I can shoot the 9mm a lot more. Ballistically, they are both pistol cartridges, and you can carry a couple of more 9mm than .45. The original 1911s were available in a lot of smaller calibers and a few bigger.
I like it, so I bought it. Tastes vary.
Wife was surprised. She first saw it when I showed her the holster I made for it. Gun was in the holster, and I never mentioned the gun. She almost said something, but wasn't sure.
Every man deserves one excellent gun, one fast car, one great dog. I had a fast car when I was a kid, I have a great dog now, and this is the best of the two guns I bought new.
Garand was designed as a .276 cal rifle.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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Ah, a teachable moment; here's some history for you. Browning originally designed his pistol for .38 ACP, which is a 9mm. The US Army demanded all pistols be submitted in .45, and they were. Even Lugers were made in .45 for the trial. The Browning was selected in .45 ACP and became the US Army pistol.
And by the way, the Garand was originally designed in .276, and was redesigned to use the .30/06 the Army had stored in great quantity.
A lightweight Commander in 9mm is closer to Browning's original pistol, and is easier to carry and shoot than the .45 he sold to the army. And if you ever get a chance to shoot an AR in 6.8mm you'll see why John Garand chose a similar caliber for his rifle that the army changed to .30/06 for logistics reasons.
We don't always know what we think we know. There is also a backstory about how we got the Beretta 9mm M9 to seal a deal for Italy to buy F16s.
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Good things about the Ruger 1911 pistols just keep showing up around here. I may have to pick one up this year.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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I own a 1911 chambered in .45 ACP and another chambered in 9mm. My purpose for owning a 9mm 1911? Fun. All the 1911 positive aspects, soft shooting, and relatively affordable range practice ammo. I also use it to introduce new shooters to center fire cartridges. I use a .22lr rimfire to work on basics, gauge the individual's proclivity to following commands and safety rules, and get them acclimated to firing a pistol. Having a very soft shooting 9mm center fire aides in this. Then move them up to a double stack and progress upwards.
I will say that even though a 9mm 1911 is a joy to shoot, it doesn't replace the physical and visceral experience of shooting a well made 1911 chambered for .45 ACP.
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The wife got me a gift card to the lgs for xmas i looked long and hard at the Ruger but bought Kimber Custom ll instead the Kimber was also $60.00 cheaper. I fell in love with the 1911 9mm after buying and old Star 9mm from a guy at a show for $180.00 The 1911 9mm is just a blast to shoot. Enjoy
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I certainly plan on it. Just have to work the funds first. It's a few more pennies than the shield 9.
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that's because nothing compares to a 1911 :-)
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For a .45 ACP 1911, no.
For a 9mm 1911, there is a contender.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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I have owned and shot three .45 ACP 1911 pistols and now one 1911 9mm. Traded the full sized Ruger 1911 .45 for the new 9mm. I just like it better than the full sized .45. I still have the lightweight SR1911 commander, the RIA compact .45 and now the lightweight SR1911 9mm. Best of both worlds. Plus with the 9mm I now have a 10 round 1911.
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love hearing all the great stories/reviews on the Ruger 1911..i've handled a couple, that felt very nice, but haven't had a chance to fire one..
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Funny....was at the range yesterday with my two favorite 9mm's - Ruger 1911 LW Commander and my cosmetically challenged S&W 909.
One I paid full retail and the other I stole for $150.
Ironically, both are single stacks, both are about the same size and weight. And nearly as accurate at 20 feet! The Ruger tends to group a little left and the Smith a little low and left.
I love them both! Will trade neither. The Ruger 1911 has the most fantastic trigger. Even in SA, the Smith has a lot of slack. Both are wonderful pistols and worth every penny I have in them.
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Shot 100 rounds today with the Ruger SR 1911 in 45 acp. It is a pleasure to shoot, I wouldn't mind having one in 9mm. For the price range Ruger did good with this one.
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I've had my Ruger SR1911 LWCMD in 9mm since July and like it better every day.
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I just bought a shield9 on Saturday and you guys aren't helping my pocketbook at all. How much blood would I have to sell to get one of these?
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I just bought a shield9 on Saturday and you guys aren't helping my pocketbook at all. How much blood would I have to sell to get one of these?
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Most of the one's I have seen run between $650-$700. Check the auction houses, you might find one a little cheaper. Good luck.
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EXACTLY! As I was reading the post in this thread I kept thinking - "someone should tell him about the BHP!!!"
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Ya'll are making my mental wheels turn......
I have a 1911 in 9mm, a Colt Combat Commander. All steel, nice old Colt blue finish.
I have really tried to like it. Unfortunately, it has displayed the most lackadaisical accuracy of any of my 1911's.
It's sorta fun to shoot, as long as you don't ask too much of it.
My Browning HP will outshoot it on a bad day.
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Ya'll are making my mental wheels turn......
I have a 1911 in 9mm, a Colt Combat Commander. All steel, nice old Colt blue finish.
I have really tried to like it. Unfortunately, it has displayed the most lackadaisical accuracy of any of my 1911's.
It's sorta fun to shoot, as long as you don't ask too much of it.
My Browning HP will outshoot it on a bad day.
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You're absolutely right. I have 65 nickels to offer to take it off your hands.
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I read with interest this thread the day it started, having heard of, but never handled the SR 1911-9mm. I still haven't shot one but last night a chance to look one over came my way.
A friend asked me to open it up completely, take a look and clean it.
I'm impressed.
Most all the specs can be read on the Ruger site, but I noticed a couple things they don't mention.
Trigger pull on this one I would guess to be less than 4.5 lbs. and glassy. I will put the gauge on it when I reassemble.
The bare frame, alloy of course, with grip bushings, plungers, and ejector still attached weighs 4.2 oz. (On a calibrated postal scale). It almost floats.
Inside surfaces of the frame have several areas machined differently, far differently, than G I mil-spec 1911s. Saving every ounce in non-critical areas.
While many companies have gone to plastic mainspring housings, this one is steel.
That msh weight, along with the S S slide, balances it nicely in your hand. Just begging to be shot.
The firing pin is I believe titanium, and adds a little safety to a, non 80 series, type ignition system.
A ramp style barrel, so there should never be any damage to the frame from bullets feeding, and also will almost assure no failure to feed from the mags.
Two features I am not a fan of, rubber grips and extended thumb safety. The grips however feel great, and are an easy change, as is the thumb safety, and I will when I get one of these, which I surely am !
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Blasphemy! Having a 1911 in any caliber other than the Prophet JMB's .45ACP is just WRONG!!
Now, in all seriousness, I like my harder hitting 1911's, but the full sized Springfield RO in 9mm is a great gun to shoot.
Enjoy that Ruger, never shot one, but have read a lot of good things about them.
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I have considered a 1911 in 9mm several times over the years.
The closest thing I have to a 1911 now is an Astra A-70 in 9mm, which is sort of a 3/4 size 1911 - single action, single stack, cocked and locked carry - and I love it. I alternate carrying it and my Shield 9mm.
I already have a full-size 9mm, a Star 30MI - a double stack "Krunchen-ticker" (so called by the late Colonel, who despised 9mm double-single actions), which I used to carry in a shoulder rig back when I was younger. It is accurate, all steel, and very heavy. It would double as a truncheon if the 15 rounds it carries are not enough. No way I'm getting rid of it, altho its only duties now are range and nightstand.
I think if I did purchase another full-size 9, it would probably be a CZ-75. I missed the opportunity back in the 90's to purchase one of them reasonably ( oh, to have back a few decisions...).
But, the Ruger 1911 in 9mm is very tempting.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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Well, for me, the attraction is the gun itself. I am one of those guys that consider a 1911 the correct size for a gun; and 9mm gives you acceptable centerfire rds, but less expensive ammo.
I don't have a 9mm 1911, but I do have a Star B Super, and I love it. Very sweet shooter, similar handling characteristics to my 1911.
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Mine is a 45, but add me to the list of those who love their Ruger light weight commander 1911s. My only semi auto big bore, but, everyone should have a 1911 and the Ruger SR1911 is a great choice.
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I keep hoping that Ruger will add .38 super to their 1911 line up, would love a LWCMD in that caliber. I have a Colt commander in .38 super and it it a great gun to shoot.
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So, not being critical here, but I don't understand the attraction to a 9mm 1911. Seems to be a big gun for a smaller caliber than what the gun was designed for, kind of like chambering a M1 Garand in .223 . . . what's the purpose? Just asking.
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A lot of guns are like that. Just take a look at the Sig. It was originally in 45 then Sig made the same gun in 9mm single stack. Later on they made the 226 which was double stack.
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I used to have a SR1911 and it was a work of art. The fit and finish was outstanding. It was extremely accurate. I thought it was too pretty to shoot, so it just set in the safe. I can't afford to keep anything that I don't shoot, so I sold it. I know I'll regret it some day.
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I used to have a SR1911 and it was a work of art. The fit and finish was outstanding. It was extremely accurate. I thought it was too pretty to shoot, so it just set in the safe. I can't afford to keep anything that I don't shoot, so I sold it. I know I'll regret it some day.
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It's been one month since I traded mine for the SR1911 9mm. So far I don't miss it but I do still have the SR1911 Cmd Lightweight to ease the pain.
I put 275 rounds through mine in the three years I had it and it was a joy to shoot.
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The full size, full weight GI style 1911 .45 is probably my favorite handgun. I don't care for all the short barrel, lightweight, multi-color jobs with plastic parts and fiber optic sights. If someone made a REALLY thin officer size 1911 in 9m/m I could see that being a pretty popular carry gun.
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I really like my 1911 9mm. It is going to surpass my Shield in range trips next year I believe.
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This is a sweet looking 1911,9mm,very nice!
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Anyone make a 1911 pattern in 9mm...... in a CCO? That's an Officer's model frame mated with a Commander's slide.
If not I'm in the "Want a 9mm single action?".... make mine a Browning HP or CZ 75.
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I have a Colt New Agent 1911 in 9MM. I like it better every time I shoot it. I don't see the problem with a 1911 in 9MM. It allows a slightly smaller frame. Seems like a good match to me.
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I have a Colt New Agent 1911 in 9MM. I like it better every time I shoot it. I don't see the problem with a 1911 in 9MM. It allows a slightly smaller frame. Seems like a good match to me.
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Read post #9 in this thread. All became clear to me why I like the 9mm 1911 more than the .45acp.
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Dan Wesson Guardian in 9mm. A joy to shoot.
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I did read it. At the time, soldiers were getting their butts kicked (actually heads hacked off) due to the less than desired stopping power of .30,.35., &.38 caliber weapons. Older 45's were reissued as a short term replacement. When time came for the new replacement, 45 cal. was it.
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I did read it. At the time, soldiers were getting their butts kicked (actually heads hacked off) due to the less than desired stopping power of .30,.35., &.38 caliber weapons. Older 45's were reissued as a short term replacement. When time came for the new replacement, 45 cal. was it.
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If you are referring to the Moro rebellion 1911-1913, the 1911 .45ACP handgun really had no role in the fight. It did not reach our soldiers in the Philippines until the actions against the Moros was over in 1913.
The effectiveness of the .45 round versus the contemporary handgun and rifle rounds is also problematic. It seems the only really effective round was a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot.
Google Jan Libourel and Moros.
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01-12-2017, 04:58 PM
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If you are referring to the Moro rebellion 1911-1913, the 1911 .45ACP handgun really had no role in the fight. It did not reach our soldiers in the Philippines until the actions against the Moros was over in 1913.
The effectiveness of the .45 round versus the contemporary handgun and rifle rounds is also problematic. It seems the only really effective round was a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot.
Google Jan Libourel and Moros.
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Didn't they reissue some old Colt SAA ,45s and a new .45 DA Colt 189something ?
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Originally Posted by CATI1835
If you are referring to the Moro rebellion 1911-1913, the 1911 .45ACP handgun really had no role in the fight. It did not reach our soldiers in the Philippines until the actions against the Moros was over in 1913.
The effectiveness of the .45 round versus the contemporary handgun and rifle rounds is also problematic. It seems the only really effective round was a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot.
Google Jan Libourel and Moros.
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I'm aware of that. These soldiers could only wished they had the 1911 45 ACP.
As to this thread, I wouldn't mind the Ruger 9mm 1911.
I just wouldn't ever let it replace the 45 ACP 1911. I just like larger calibers. Always have, and far too long to change my ways.
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Originally Posted by LAA
I did read it. At the time, soldiers were getting their butts kicked (actually heads hacked off) due to the less than desired stopping power of .30,.35., &.38 caliber weapons. Older 45's were reissued as a short term replacement. When time came for the new replacement, 45 cal. was it.
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I was responding as to why I liked the 9mm and why it felt so good in a 1911 frame. Since I don't plan on facing Moros anytime soon stopping power in a Philippine jungle is not high on my list of must haves.
I just like the idea of having a weapon that fits what the inventor of the weapon had in mind.
And should Moros invade my abode I have two .45acp's ready to engage.
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Well back to the subject went by my LGS today, what can I say I like my 9mm's and I've never had a 1911 pistol been looking at one of these for awhile now so it and it's buddy the M&P 9 M2.0 F/S came home with me. Couldn't shoot today there's about 4 inch's of water in my back yard range hopping to get to the range tomorrow.
Thanks for letting me share.
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I pick one up last week shot it today first 1911 for me.
put maybe 100 rds though it no problems great grip super smooth
light trigger. Now I know way so many shoot 1911
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Good shooting. Mine is a joy to shoot.
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