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Saw one of these on line and was just curious?
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Can you post pics of what you are talking about?
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To answer whatever the gun is, F&W were not made by S&W. Forehand & Wadsworth Co. made guns in Worcester, MA from the early 1870s & 1880s and was renamed Forehand Arms in the 1890. Sullivan Forehand and Henry C. Wadsworth acquired the manufacturing site of their father-in-law Ethan Allen to start their business in 1871.

I think what you are getting at is that it was a top break revolver??
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Forehand&Wadsworth swing angle made by Smith & Wesson ?

Saw one of these on line and was just curious?
Are you asking if this gun was made by S&W? It was definitely not. S&W did not make revolvers that had other names put on them IE store brands, although there were many copyright infringments and many period revolvers were copies of S&Ws - if you are going to copy something you might as well copy the best there is

I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to ask.

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Thanks again for help with the pictures.When I first saw the gun on line it strongly resembled a Smith & Wesson ,at least to my eyes.I couldn't find any visible markings on the gun to indicate manufacture.Thank you for the history lesson on this gun,its is a beautiful Antique.This link list it as a Smith & Wesson making further confusion.


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swing angle? maybe swamp angel, a lot of these guns are lumped
as suicide specials. They were like snowflakes there were so many different model names made fore retailers.
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swing angle? maybe swamp angel, a lot of these guns are lumped
as suicide specials. They were like snowflakes there were so many different model names made fore retailers.
If you click on the bottom link in my last post it will take you to the antique site where it is listed by their description as both Smith & Wesson and a swing angle.Why the gun has no manufacture markings leads to the confusion.I thought this may had been a contracted gun like the Walther PPKS being made by Smith in ME.
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It would appear, though I am no expert, that the gun shown in the pictures is a Forehand and Wadsworth Swap Angel. In the folder of pictures you linked, there is one showing manufacturer's marks, and despite being hard to read, clearly identifies it as a F&W. Searching Google images for this model yields photos of similar guns.

As to why the photos also identify it as a Smith and Wesson: I suspect that it is an attempt by the individual hosting the photos to get them to show up when people search many different topics, hence the long photo names with lots of additional models, brands and other words thrown in. This practice is often referred to online as "tagging". The idea is to attempt to market the material to a wider audience.

Edit: a little cursory research suggests that the F&W Swamp Angel was not in fact a suicide special as another poster had suggested, but a fairly accurate and reliable gun, that was apparently well liked in its time.

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It would appear, though I am no expert, that the gun shown in the pictures is a Forehand and Wadsworth Swap Angel. In the folder of pictures you linked, there is one showing manufacturer's marks, and despite being hard to read, clearly identifies it as a F&W. Searching Google images for this model yields photos of similar guns.

As to why the photos also identify it as a Smith and Wesson: I suspect that it is an attempt by the individual hosting the photos to get them to show up when people search many different topics, hence the long photo names with lots of additional models, brands and other words thrown in. This practice is often referred to online as "tagging". The idea is to attempt to market the material to a wider audience.

Edit: a little cursory research suggests that the F&W Swamp Angel was not in fact a suicide special as another poster had suggested, but a fairly accurate and reliable gun, that was apparently well liked in its time.
That makes since,and a little deceiving on the part of the Host.Thanks for clearing that up.
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