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Old 01-09-2017, 03:43 PM
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A friend who works at a local shop informed me that some new cobras are coming in this week. Have read info on colt website but no reviews. I own one colt revolver and a 1911a1-otherwise a s&w guy. Any information about the new cobra would be appreciated. I don't want to miss chance to get one early if good.
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Well, you beat me to this thread so here's the Gun Digest review I just read this very minute.

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Thanks. My LGS said I get the first call when one comes in. My '57 Cobra needs a playmate.

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I really like my 1968 Colt Cobra in .38 special. It belonged to
a LEO and has lots of character. I carry it in a H. H. Heiser
457 holster that's inscribed "Cobra 2" in ink on the back. It
is my favorite CCW sidearm.
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I like the look of the Colt.38 SPL+P in the link.
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:45 PM
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MSRP is $699. Trying to decide if that amount might be better spent on an older S&W or Colt revolver.

My only Colt revolver is this 1956 Official Police .38 purchased at auction for less than $400 a couple of years ago.
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The newer version has the advantage of being rated for +P ammunition and what sounds like a better trigger/ergonomics.

But why is it so heavy for just a .38?
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Anything to grow interest in the revolver market and to maybe put some fun back into the shooting sports is a good thing.
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It appears Colt borrowed heavily from Charter Arms and Taurus in the looks department. Wow 25 ounces, that's heavy.
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It appears Colt borrowed heavily from Charter Arms and Taurus in the looks department. Wow 25 ounces, that's heavy.
I get the impression Colt cut a few corners to compete on price. Not something I would have expected from them.
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So far all the reviews I've seen come from professional writers and bloggers and they love it. But we all know how that goes.
I want to hear from some ordinary shooters.
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It's a six shot snub .38 spl, all steel. It fills a 'niche' that seems to have been missing for quite some time. I like J-frames: but the 5 shot capacity can be an issue.

If the materials and execution is on a par with current J-frames, I think it'll be a real hit. The absence of the key-hole lock will boost it's popularity as well.

I think it could be a great option for female shooters, new shooters, and advanced shooters who want a 'more capable' .38 that is still concealable. 25 ounces makes it just heavy enough to be a range gun in .38 spl, and light enough for all day comfortable carry.
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Hmmm...dull matte finish. I hope they'll eventually offer a green fiber optic front sight as well as red.


And a semi-polished stainless finish like the S&W Model 60 used to have would also be welcome.


The Gun Digest review was written by some guy I've never heard of, who admitted that he has scant experience with revolvers. This may be why he didn't discuss the cylinder timing issue. I hope the new gun has an action of Colt's later style or a refinement. The old traditional Colt action that dates from the early 1900's has a rep for going out of time quickly.


Colt once made a cheaply finished version of the Agent. I guess it sold to people who just wanted a reliable .38 snub and didn't want to pay for appearances. This gun seems to appeal to that market.
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I have a couple of Agents. One from 1975, which I carry a lot. The other from 1964. Both have the factory hammer shroud. The newer gun is supposedly rated for +P. That's what I carry in it. The relative light weight is part of the guns appeal. My other carry revolver is a M66 2-1/2". It's decidedly not light weight. However, it shoots just like a full size gun as far as I'm concerned. It is a load to carry though.
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I think this just follows the general trend in CCW handguns. We reached size limits with both revolvers and semis, and things are bouncing the other directions as people just don't want to shoot their Glock 29s, Kimber Solos, and scandium/aluminum J frames stuffed with +Ps or .357s all that much!

I'm still focused on the bigger guns but eventually will stumble across a six shot S&W snub I just have to own.
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I have yet to actually see one in person but I THINK from what I've seen on Youtube and other reviews so far I might just have to get one! List price is $699 but actual selling price after the initial release should be low to mid 600's.

I own a 3rd generation blued Dick Spl. and it is a pleasure to shoot. I did actually carry it for a while but went back to my Chief Spl. for ease of pocket carry. While the little smith has one round less there is no denying that the Colt is not really a pocket gun. That said, in an OWB holster the few extra ounces makes no real difference and the new Colt should handle the stiff Buffalo Bore 158 grain LSWCHP-GC +P's quite a bit better than my M60-7 does.

From what they say, the DA trigger pull is only 8 pounds with a sub 3 pound SA pull. However the DA pull is what excites me for a carry gun - that's pretty light!!

Aside from the front sight it comes with (don't like that type but is easily changeable with a conventional type) I think the new Colt Cobra will be a great, high quality, accurate and smooth 6 shot revolver and will be a much needed revenue producer for Colt. AND NO I/L!!
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But why is it so heavy for just a .38?
why not? I love a good heavy 38. makes shooting them a joy
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that's heavy??? interesting. I carry a 32 oz model 13 everyday and wouldn't consider it heavy unless I'm in jogging pants
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Yeah, I carry a K-frame with .38+P most days myself, but come on if the gun is that heavy why not just make it a .357 magnum?

The K6S is only 23 oz, it's also thinner than the new Cobra. I cannot think of a single reason for Colt to be making this in .38 special only.
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The K6S is only 23 oz, it's also thinner than the new Cobra. I cannot think of a single reason for Colt to be making this in .38 special only.
I am not bothered by the .38+P only chambering. 357 in a 2" snub is absolutely punishing. I'll be the first one to say it...too much for me to shoot well in a small D frame. Also, the short barrel does not allow for the full ballistic benefit of .357. You run out of tube before running out of burn.

That said, I do think that the gun could be an ounce or two lighter. Every little bit helps.
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This is the first I'm hearing of the new Cobra. Mine is a 1968 model (lighter than the new one) purchased new for $85 as my first off duty weapon and while it's not carried much now, it still goes to the range. My issued weapon was a Det. Special when I was a working detective in the robbery squad. It saved me when I had to use it in a gun fight w/an armed robbery suspect who shot a cop in '74.
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First Look: Colt Cobra Revolver - Gun Digest

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Read the article. The new Cobra to my eyes doesn't have thee elegance of my original Cobra, just saying.
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I love Colts, and I'm delighted they are (at last) expanding their line rather than shrinking it.

This gun looks like a winner, and I hope they sell boatloads of them.

I will buy the first one I get my grubbies on.
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I think it is way over priced for a 38+P without a hidden hammer. I think they missed the boat by not making it a shrouded hammer for ease of concealment. But that's just my opinion which doesn't mean squat to anyone else.
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I really prefer the standard hammer. It looks better and single action cocking ability extends the practical range.


The gun can be useful in the field as well as for close range defense. And even for defense, I like to be able to cock the hammer when it seems advisable.
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I really prefer the standard hammer. It looks better and single action cocking ability extends the practical range.


The gun can be useful in the field as well as for close range defense. And even for defense, I like to be able to cock the hammer when it seems advisable.
In my ideal world every revolver would be available with both options. In this case I think Colt made the right decision, this isn't a pocket gun and I've never had a hammer snag when drawing from a belt holster.
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I am not bothered by the .38+P only chambering. 357 in a 2" snub is absolutely punishing. I'll be the first one to say it...too much for me to shoot well in a small D frame. Also, the short barrel does not allow for the full ballistic benefit of .357. You run out of tube before running out of burn.

That said, I do think that the gun could be an ounce or two lighter. Every little bit helps.
I agree with you but when was the last time you saw any company built a steel framed revolver in .38 only?

I bet a year from now Colt will release a Magnum Cobra, with a slightly longer cylinder and maybe new sights, for $200 more.
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I recently saw new S&W 642 no-locks .38s for sale on the internet for $344 shipped so I can't imagine paying 50% more for this new Colt. I want Colt to succeed and bring back some of their old revolvers but I don't really have a desire for this one based on first impressions.
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I'm going to have to shoot one of those Cobras. I like the front sight setup.
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While I appreciate the link, the article by Drew Warden was certainly a disappointment. It leaves far more questions unanswered. The article was written by someone who apparently does not even know what questions to ask.
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I love Colts, and I'm delighted they are (at last) expanding their line rather than shrinking it.

This gun looks like a winner, and I hope they sell boatloads of them.

I will buy the first one I get my grubbies on.
I agree with this. As to the Colt, I am looking forward to seeing one as I have always liked the D Frame Colts. Having the 6th shot has always seemed like a better idea to me, especially when the Model 10 and the D Frame use the same size speed loader.
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But why is it so heavy for just a .38?
^^^^What he said. And yes, it's heavy for a snub, in any caliber. Weight is why my Ruger SP101 languishes in the safe while my M&P 340s rack up daily "frequent carry miles."

IMHO, seems like another boat missed. Ruger introduces a 5-shot hefty-medium frame in .44Spl while the Model 69 in a similar size frame was introduced in .44Mag a few years ago...

Now, 25ozs empty for the new Cobra while the Glock catalog shows their 26/27 mini guns at 21-ish ozs empty and the service size 19 at 23-ish ozs. And how many rounds does the 19 hold? Second boat missed...

As a revolver guy, I hope they sell a jillion new Cobras also, but it's not happening. The CC market has gone lightweight in a big way and 25ozs for 6 shots is not cutting it.

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So Im watching the NRA Shot Show moment on the Cobra with Mark Keefe and at 1:35 he shoots it and the trigger slips. It doesn't move the hammer or cylinder. Not and issue for me its new and mine will work if they ever get to Commie Cal.
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Ruger sp101s were first available in .38 only. When that market was sold out, Ruger made them in .357. Colt will do the same marketing. Then, hammerless or with a shroud. You have to sell out each market first. Maximum marketing. Not many companies start with a small gun, they build the big one then start chopping them off. These marketing types have to get the most return on the original product, them SLIGHTLY modify and start selling to us again, aka..new and improved. Colt will sell everyone of these things they can turn out. Then the shiny ones and the hammerless ones and then the .357s. And the gun guys will buy them!! Cause that's what we do. And the beat goes on. I had a 101 first in the neighborhood, did measurements against a mdl 19 cylinder and went to work. .357 Ruger 101 months before they offered them. Retail marketing is a wonderment. Look how many of us are excited about a Mossberg 14 inch "not a shotgun".
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16 ounces compared to 25 ounces. Here's my 1974 Cobra everyday carry. well worn on the outside but tight. I'll stick with the old Cobra.

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IMO some of these gun manufacturers are putting out stuff that's really "tacky". Re; the Springfield "grip-zone" and now the new Colt with the merchandise code etched right into the side of the frame--C'mone Man
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I shot one at the 2017 SHOT. Not impressed. For starters, the matte finish doesn't appeal to my eyes as does the donut-looking stepped barrel. It functioned, but felt cheap. Was very disappointed and will happily stick with my P&R M60 Chiefs Special.
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I am still working hard to find a new Colt Cobra. Glad to post a review at the earliest opportunity.
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