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If you were to buy a Taurus 85...
TLDR: I am buying a Taurus 85. Soliciting tips for pre-buy inspection and post-buy service prior to carrying.
I have used the search engine, and read all I could find on these and other forums regarding the Taurus 85. Without an official tally, it seems that most people have had good experiences with the 85. Very few have complained about that model specifically. No more than any other gun by any other manufacturer as far as I can tell.
I have decided that for my purposes in this particular gun (deep concealment, tossed under the seat as needed, general knock around gun) that the 85 is suitable for when it is less reasonable to carry my M&P9c.
Of course I will thoroughly inspect prior to buying, though if I buy new I will not be able to shoot it first.
So with all of that in mind, when I do go to buy the 85, is there anything I should expect to do immediately afterward to ensure that it runs properly? I am no gunsmith, but I have heard that some people will disassemble and clean/inspect the 85 prior to putting it into service. Of course this should not be necessary, but at such a low price point, I wouldn't be put off if some extra care were needed to make sure everything is peachy.
After buying I will shoot it lots before it goes into the carry holster. That goes for any gun.
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The steel model 85's are generally decent pistols. I had the .357 Magnum frame version, the 605 as my first carry gun over 20 years ago. I also owned an 85 and and 85 UltraLite for brief periods of time.
The steel 85 had a somewhat heavy single action trigger compared to S&W J frames, however the double action pull was quite smooth and reasonably light. The revolver was timed well and locked-up fairly tightly. The revolver made gritty sounds when I thumbed the hammer back ,so removed the side-plate and clean out a few small metal chips left over from the machining operation.
My 85 UltraLite had multiple issues with the side plate screw which retains the cylinder yoke. The screw kept coming loose, even when cleaned and Loctited. The screw wasn't machined correctly and Taurus would not ship a new screw forcing me to send the gun back. I received the gun back in about a month. On the first range session after the repair, my wife was shooting her carry loads when she stopped and asked me what was wrong with the gun. Under recoil, same screw had popped out allowing the crane/cylinder to come out in my wife's hand when she ejected the empties. This time, I had my local LGS contact Tuarus and order a screw which was out of stock and on back order. Months later the screw came in, a new version with red thread locker already applied. I installed the screw and traded the gun in on a Smith & Wesson 642-2!
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The 85 I had in the Eighties was a fine gun: accurate and well made. Alas, it developed a light-strike problem. Based on my experiences with Taurus revolvers, I'd check timing and lock-up carefully before buying, and I'd get myself a back-up mainspring.
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The steel model 85's are generally decent pistols. I had the .357 Magnum frame version, the 605 as my first carry gun over 20 years ago. I also owned an 85 and and 85 UltraLite for brief periods of time.
The steel 85 had a somewhat heavy single action trigger compared to S&W J frames, however the double action pull was quite smooth and reasonably light. The revolver was timed well and locked-up fairly tightly. The revolver made gritty sounds when I thumbed the hammer back ,so removed the side-plate and clean out a few small metal chips left over from the machining operation.
My 85 UltraLite had multiple issues with the side plate screw which retains the cylinder yoke. The screw kept coming loose, even when cleaned and Loctited. The screw wasn't machined correctly and Taurus would not ship a new screw forcing me to send the gun back. I received the gun back in about a month. On the first range session after the repair, my wife was shooting her carry loads when she stopped and asked me what was wrong with the gun. Under recoil, same screw had popped out allowing the crane/cylinder to come out in my wife's hand when she ejected the empties. This time, I had my local LGS contact Tuarus and order a screw which was out of stock and on back order. Months later the screw came in, a new version with red thread locker already applied. I installed the screw and traded the gun in on a Smith & Wesson 642-2!
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Thank you for posting this steamloco76, as I have a friend that experienced a similar problem with his.
To OP, I will only say that I had a few Taurus in the 80's and 90's, none of which I still have, nor anymore will I ever buy.
My recommendation is to spend a little more money and buy a quality revolver, such as a S&W, Ruger, and now Colt is back, as you get what you pay for.
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01-17-2017, 10:55 AM
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I have owned several Taurus 82 & 85 revolvers. They are good guns for the most part, but QC can be spotty depending on it's age. New Taurus revolvers are pushing $400.00 in my area, though one place puts them on sale for around $300.00 a few times a year. You might be able to pick up a used S&W for the same amount of money.
Here is my last Taurus 85, which was dirt cheap. I think I gave it away, though it may have been a Rossi 68 I gave away.
The Rossi.
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01-17-2017, 10:59 AM
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After my experience with the all stainless Taurus Model 85, I go with Charter Arms Undercovers. At least they fire when the trigger is pulled, every time, which is more than I can say about the Taurus...........
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01-17-2017, 11:00 AM
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In the last 15 years I bought two of them new. Neither made it past 50 rounds. They would lock up but only did so when shooting them. No more Taurus guns for me. See if you can find a used Smith or Ruger.
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Why go looking for problems? There are police turn-in model 10's all over the place for less money. Less maintenance, better made and more reliable. Yours is a decision I would reconsider. Good luck.
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01-17-2017, 11:17 AM
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a new smith airweight goes for320.00 to 400.00 around the Cleveland area I wouldn't even consider the taurus
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I wouldn't own one because the trigger has such a darn heavy pull.
I would buy a S&W for about the same money and be much better off. The S&W will be much easier to sell than the Taurus also in case you ever wanted to get another gun to replace it.
I have two Rossi revolvers that are clones to the S&W model 36 and model 60. They are like new and I got them used for under $200 each. They have a really good trigger. I have owned the M68-5 for over 20 years and never had a problem with it or the M88-5. They were actually made as clones when S&W was under the same mother company years ago.
I would suggest you shoot a Taurus 85 before buying one. You just might not like it and then selling it could be a problem getting near what you paid for it..
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01-17-2017, 11:46 AM
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I had a Taurus 85 titanium .38 Special. The gun was perfect in every way, but I sold it to a girlfriend who wanted it more than I did.
It was very light weight and had an excellent trigger pull.
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01-17-2017, 12:00 PM
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Older S&W revolvers around me seem to command the collector premium, which I am not willing to pay. If I can find an Airweight locally that is priced within $100 of a new Taurus, I'll buy it.
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^^ I think that's your best bet to go with.
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OP, what state are you in?
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OP, what state are you in?
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Northern Kentucky, Cincinnati metro.
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In the last 15 years I bought two of them new. Neither made it past 50 rounds. They would lock up but only did so when shooting them. No more Taurus guns for me. See if you can find a used Smith or Ruger.
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Quote:
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In the last 15 years I bought two of them new. Neither made it past 50 rounds. They would lock up but only did so when shooting them. No more Taurus guns for me. See if you can find a used Smith or Ruger.
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What he said!
Except I've had better luck with the autos.
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If I were to buy a Taurus... I'd wake up from that nightmare and find my S&W
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I can't speak directly to the 85, but I have an 82 that I bought last year. It has been extremely reliable and accurate throughout its first 1200 rounds. Trigger is smooth and perfectly acceptable in terms of pull weight in both SA and DA. No light strikes, no loose screws, no issues, period. Maybe I just got lucky? I don't know. My only other Taurus is an older 9mm subcompact that has been flawless through about 10,000 rounds now.
The only thing I did before shooting it the first time was wipe it down and put a few drops of oil in the right places.
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I have a SS 85 I bought in 98' or so.
I put Wolff springs in it and the trigger, both double and single action, is one of the best snubby triggers I've used.
It's been reliable, but to be honest, I rarely shoot it any more and haven't put more than 150 rounds through it.
It sits in an end table.
I would agree though, that you would be better off finding a Smith 442/642/10 for not much more or any more in the case of a 10.
I have one of those that has absolutely the best trigger of any handgun I own. For under $300 two years ago
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I had a Taurus 85 titanium .38 Special. The gun was perfect in every way, but I sold it to a girlfriend who wanted it more than I did.
It was very light weight and had an excellent trigger pull.
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I have a 85 that I bought when Walmart was getting out of the handgun business. At the same time I bought a model 94, A 9 shot 22 on the same frame. The 85 went back 3 times. It started ot OK, but at 7 yards point of imact was 10 inches right and 18 inches low. Then it quit working, the trigger would not turn the cylinder or move hammer. It went and came back the same. I kept it as a reminder only buy Smiths , Rugers ect. I got a faux S&W 60-15 (faux because real Smiths dont have the locks). Eventually I sent the 85 back with the repair order 1, fix trigger, cylinder, hammer problem, 2, poi is 10 inches right and 18 inches low. I got it back and 1 was fixed, and nothing was said about the POI. So sure enough that was not fixed. Called the gunsmith in Florida, he said I failed to write on the work order "needs accuracy test" on repair sheet. I said it was accurate, only not precise. I was happy with the grouping, not the point of impact. Heated argument. What I asked, did he think I ment when I wrote what I did. His response was that no one could understand what I wrote, or would even bothering to call about it. If it was a accuracy problem or a precision problem was a "A matter of conjector". well Ok. I sent him the gun, the return repair sheet said "bent barrel, fixed". It works fine now. I wonder if he took some xtra efforts with it. Smoother lighter trigger pull than the 60-15. I cant see any difference in accuracy. Of course the 60 can handel 357 mag (not much fun in a snub pistol) and it has adjustable sites. However I would rather shoot the 85. if I was betting my life though, I would take the Smith. On the 94 sometimes I have to smack the cylinder open with my hand. It is a ok gun. If you buy it I hope you get a good one.
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I'm off the Taurus 85 idea now. I really want a Smith and Wesson anyway, and will always wish I had gone that route. I'll get the funds together and get what I really want.
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I bought a Taurus Model 85 many years ago on one of the gun auction sites. It was sold as used but when I got it it was pre-owned, but never fired. The auction sites were still new and I stole it for $175.
Overall I like it but after a couple boxes of ammo the cylinder starts to bind.
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I would save my pennies for an S&W revolver.
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I have Taurus 85 Ultra-Lite snubbie,i've had it about three month,I fired it New Year Eve, only ten rounds.I got to take it to the range soon.
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My mother bought a Taurus model 85CH about 25 years ago. My step father was traveling a lot on business at the time and she wanted some protection while he was away. I didn't entirely agree with her choice so for Christmas I bought her and my step father a Marlin 1894 in .357 mag. A few years ago she gave it to me and I locked it away in my safe. The bluing was a little rough (due to neglect) but it buffed out with 0000 steel wool and then I refinished it with Oxpho Blue. I really didn't care for the DA only action but found that you can purchase a regular hammer with a spur and change it yourself.....it took me about 15 minutes start to finish. It's a nice little gun but a little snappier shooting that my model 60.
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