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Will be looking at mannlicher schoenauer mca 61 .243 at an estate . Has Griffin and Howe side mount. No scope. Barrel rear sight is missing. Rifle is 95% metal and wood. Mint bore. What would be a good buy on a rifle like that one? Thank You. Original butt plate.

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I just saw one sell last weekend, a mannlicher stocked one in .243 with a Leupold scope, and in very nice condition. It brought $1400. Considering the scope was worth probably $300, you're looking at closer to $1100. If you could get it for $800 it would probably be a good buy.
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I bought a 1960 MCA in 30-06 about 10 years ago for $750. Rifle in great shape, Redfield rings & no scope. I love mine. You may be able to find a rear sight. I'd say buy it.

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Are they good rifles?
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One of the finest bolt actions made. Killimanjaro Bell took 150 elephants with one in 6.5mm MS. They were very popular in Africa.

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One of the finest bolt actions made. Killimanjaro Bell took 150 elephants with one in 6.5mm MS. They were very popular in Africa.

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You mean Karamojo Bell. You're confusing a mountain in Tanzania with a district closer to Uganda.


His actual name was Walter Dalrymple Maitland Bell, and his books are worth seeking out.

One I have is, The Wanderings of an Elephant Hunter.


Besides the 6.5mm, he used the .303, the .318, and a .275 Rigby on elephant as well as other calbers. He shot the most with the .275, which is just a 7X57mm loaded wth John Rigby's patented bullets.


The Mannlicher-Schoenauer is one of the classic hunting rifles. It was famous for the quality of the machining and the almost unique rotary magazine. I think only the Savage M-99 had a similar magazine.


The name is derived from the action designer, Ferdinand, Ritter (Knight) von Mannlicher and the magazine of Otto Schoenauer.


Don't confuse it with the relatively crude Italian Mannlicher-Carcano.


I don't like the high Monte Carlo stock comb of the MCA version. The M-1952 was more to my taste.


The carbine was stocked to the muzzle in a style called stutzen. Because these were the first seen here, many still call full stocked rifles Mannlicher style. They were very popular for hunting in the Alps.


They were made from 1903-1971. Steyr Werke replaced the M-S with a rifle cheaper to make.

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I sold a fine condition 243 a couple years ago for $1500, it had
a Balivar 8x scope on it, I think, may have been a 6x. This was
a rifle not the carbine. I just saw a fine condition Alpine carbine
in a 9mm X? go for $1850, no scope.
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I had a M-1908, the one in 8X56mm. Winchester used to load the ammo, and my carbine came with one box of that. I was able to locate some DWM ammo imported by Speer in the late 1960's, but that caliber is now very hard to find. I'm not sure if it's still loaded in Europe.

Dr. Roy Chapman Andrews used these rifles in a couple of calibers, as well as Savage M-1920 rifles on his famous scientific expeditions.
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I had a 61 mca and sold it ex rifle , also my wife got me a later styer mann, 30 06 the plastic mag fell from gun cabinet and broke the side button . Ex rifles .
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