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Been wanting one for a while and finally bought one. It was test fired 12-23-1953, the test target shown was at 50 meters. Its actually a large group, most test targets are one ragged hole. It was unfired till 2 weeks ago. There was a slight problem firing it. Had to soak the set trigger assy and lube it with a needle oiler for watches and use a Swiss watch oil. Thanks to 6string (Jim) for helping me.

Shot it again yesterday and its doing great so far. Will try to buy some more European ammo at the gun show on Saturday. The set trigger weight of pull is measured in grams, wow is it light. The extension of wood on the right side helps, only the tip of the finger moves to fire the gun.

I like the Martini Cadet rifles and this is a small Martini action. The martini has one of the fastest lock times out there. The grip fits me nicely, only need a little wood removed in the thumb area.

Shooting a single shot slows the ammo consumption and puts you back to the basics of sight alignment and trigger control. Its good to re-develop a follow through after it fires. Larry
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Hi Larry,

Very nice! Glad you have it up and running. The group sizes are more a function of the ammo. Feed it what it likes best and you'll be amazed at how accurate it is!
The old cardboard boxes are very rare. People keep the fancy wood cases, but usually lose or toss the box!

Here's my Hämmerli Luxus Model, in very rare left hand configuration (even the frame is reverse!) and carved grip & forend.

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Here's mine. Its wood isn't as nice as yours. I thought it was a Model 104, because of the octagon barrel, but perhaps not. Don't know when mine was made, but it is marked like yours: London 1948, Helsinki 1952, so I presume it was made between '52 and the next Olympics in '56. I had a lot of trouble with ammo for it; most brands, CCI Green Tag, for example, won't chamber completely. I finally found Remington/Eley Club Extra, and it chambers with no problem. Don't know how accurate it is since I've never benched it. I think to be good with one of these, you have to shoot nothing else; a session with a 45 will ruin your trigger pull for the Hammerli.
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Hi Cyrano,

Nice! That's a model 100, the original!
The low serial number (they began at 1001) suggests it's probably a 1955-56 production.
The chambers are not just tight, but designed to engrave the forward band of the bullet into the rifling. Most American brands of 22 are simply too big, and/or have too heavy a lubricant. You'd be best off with some Euro ammo, like Eley, RWS, Lapua, etc. Sure, it's more expensive, but it's not like you can burn through the stuff loading and shooting one at a time.
By the way, I suggest you make a "cartridge pusher"... a short length of dowel and an improvised handle so that you can push a cartridge into the chamber via the hole drilled under the rear sight (intended to facilitate insertion of a cleaning rod). You'll save wear and tear on the camming surfaces between the loading lever and the falling block, preserving your headspacing and firing pin-to-primer alignment.

What's up with the 2nd and 5th pictures? They don't quite match! The 2nd pic shows the set trigger lever serverely bent, while the 5th picture shows a lever that's in new condition. Did you replace it?

Nice early example of the classic Hämmerli!
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Hi Cyrano,

Just re-read your last comment. It's tough but not impossible to mix bullseye and free pistol technique. Check out the attached article from American Rifleman march 1960 to see what the champions were shooting. Top 2700 shooters, including service guys shooting hardball in their 45s, made the Hämmerli their first choice in free pistol.
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Attached is a pic of Joe Huelet Benner shooting his Hämmerli back when things were a bit less formal in the Olympics!

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Love those guns, always wanted one. Of course now my right elbow doesn't straighten out, so I would have to find a set of grips for my left hand.

Color me jealous!
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Want to thank Jim (6string) for all the help over the last month. He helped me get this gun up and running. Searching this model his name came up a lot and he was helping others with their problems if they had any or just sharing knowledge. He is one of the good guys and belongs here with all the good people that share what they know.

Jim, that is one nice gun you have. The wood is gorgeous, a fitting piece for someone that collected the Hammerli free pistols. Glad you showed it to us.

Cyrano, I remember you bought yours years ago and saw the thread while searching the Hammerli free pistols. It was a while ago and I posted that I will have one some day. Finally after abt 7 years.

I'll post a couple more pics after my grandson wakes up, he's sleeping in the computer room. This is a fun to shoot gun so far. Larry
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6string- That was good info on the March 1960 A.R. Thanks.
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Hi Bullet Bob,

Hämmerli used to offer as an option grips fitted so as to allow shooting with a bent elbow. This is an earlier technique for precision shooting (see my little avatar picture!).
In fact, the Hämmerli 100 was never intended as a stock model. Each was ordered one at a time with a list of options and specs for the customer. Sending them a hand tracing, for example, was the norm when you placed an order.

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Congrats on a nice find!!
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6string: I found my pistol at a Dallas gun show in 2014; paid about $1000 for it and have had at least that much fun with it. It had a trigger problem, I don't remember exactly what, and I sent it to Larry's Guns in Gray ME. It came back fixed and with a new trigger set lever. I've only put about 200 rounds down it, most of it trying to find out which ammo will fit and which won't. Most of what I had won't. I now have an ample supply of Rem/Eley Club Extra. The combination shoots a lot better than I can hold or see even from a rest. I want to order another rear sight leaf from Larry's with a slightly wider and deeper notch, but haven't got around to it yet.

Thanks for the idea of a bullet pusher. I have a couple of ideas I'm thinking about now, although the Rem/Eley chambers easily.

'Way back about 1954, I was in ROTC and had the opportunity to spend a few days as a cadet at West Point. For PT I went down to the pistol range and shot with the West Point pistol team. Their coach and instructor was Huelet Benner.

I also have a Hammerli-Walther Olympia, although there isn't an Olympic rapid fire range within about 400 miles. It's great fun rolling beer cans with it as fast as I can, though
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Always want a Hammerli free pistol, never managed to get my hands on one, got a Vostok MC 55 some years ago, shot a couple of matches with it, haven't done much with it for awhile, shoulder and elbow not what it used to be.
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Just saw on my email that this thread is one of the featured ones this week.

One of the other single shot pistol I shoot is a Drulov model 75. It's a sturdy, simple made, well fit and accurate shooter. It's popular in Europe and made by CZ. CZ makes some great products. It may be for sale soon.

Had a T/C Contender for years and made it into an indoor shooter. Have a 10" octagon 38 special barrel, a 6 1/2" 32 mag bbl and a .22 bbl. It's fun to slow life down with single shots. Shooting is at 50 ft.

Been dry firing the Hammerli with a fired case in the chamber to loosen it up a little. It's functioning great. Seeing that Eley is 8.00 a box, I want to get as much use out of the ammo as I can. Larry

Tony, that is a nice gun.
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Great pistol. Single shot will bring you back to fundamentals. I started shooting in the kids NRA program, single-shot bolt action Anshutz (sp?) rifles.
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I was one month old when they test fire that gun. Thanks for sharing!
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I saw this thread in the email notice... fascinating stuff -- many thanks to the op for sharing!

I had to google Hammerli, and came up with this article from March 2016 on an airgun forum. For those who are new to these guns it might fill in some of the blanks so to speak. At least I found it worth reading:

Hammerli 100 free pistol: Part 1 | Air gun blog - Pyramyd Air Report

No Hammerli for me, but I do have an Ithaca M-49, lever-action single shot rifle in 22 magnum that has a falling block. Single-shot guns force you to learn a form of discipline that other guns simply can't.

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My wife, who doesn't really know a Triple Lock from a Taurus, bought my Hammerli (mine is serial number 186X) at a small gun shop in Tucker, GA, back in 1996. The owner of the shop knew me, and he knew I didn't have one. I've enjoyed shooting mine--even with long CB caps--and ever since I've been looking for an otherwise "wrecked" one that I could build into a small rifle. I have a couple of larger "Martini" actions built into .357 Magnum caliber rifles (one of them is built on a Greener "Harpoon Gun" action), and they do make dandy little sporting rifles. I also have a couple of .22 Long Rifle long guns, and I enjoy shooting our Montana "gophers" (Columbian and Richardson's ground squirrels) with them. When you get tired of using semi-autos, the old designs will warm your heart.
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Here's my Hammerli 162 electronic trigger (recently sold...)



And a Walther Olympia Schnellfurer .22 Short rapid fire pistol from the 1930's



Finally, to balance thing out, a Walther CP2 CO2 Target...



I still have the Walthers....
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Just re-read your last comment. It's tough but not impossible to mix bullseye and free pistol technique. Check out the attached article from American Rifleman march 1960 to see what the champions were shooting. Top 2700 shooters, including service guys shooting hardball in their 45s, made the Hämmerli their first choice in free pistol.
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Attached is a pic of Joe Huelet Benner shooting his Hämmerli back when things were a bit less formal in the Olympics!

Cheers,
Jim
That picture of Joe Benner shooting in the 1952 Olympics brought back a lot of good memories. I had the pleasure of meeting him when I was on the Yale Pistol Team in the 1960's. A salesman from High Standard (their factory was just outside of New Haven, in Hamden) brought him to the range one night to demo their guns and give us some tips. He had his 1952 Olympic Gold Medal with him and effortlessly shot a bunch of ragged hole 10-shot groups at 50 feet. The NRA 50-foot bullseye targets must have seemed easy to him compared to the Olympic 50-meter targets! This would have been around 1966-1968. We ended up with 6 High Standard pistols for our team, although I mostly shot a S&W 18-2 that I bought new in 1965 and still shoot (2-handed now and not in competition).
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HKSmith: I shot on the Harvard pistol team in the early 1950s. I shot a Hi Standard Supermatic, S-101, like the one pictured. I couldn't manage both weights and usually shot it with just the heavy weight about half way down the barrel.
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Hey!
Thought I'd follow up with some more pics. I've owned and competed with most of the Hämmerli Free Pistols, from a few early 100s up to the 152 (electronic) and 160. In fact, my first Hämmerli was a left hand 152 I got for $650. Then, I got really into the early 100 series FP.
Here's some of the 100 series Free Pistols I've had. I've had a few right handed ones that I started to fit with left hand grips. I got rid of all my right handed ones once I found some the the true left hand ones, with LH grips, LH set trigger, and LH frame. They are the ONLY company that were committed to serving the competitor with true left handed match pistols, all with a full compliment of custom options. (I've also got a true LH Hämmerli/Walther Olympia.)
In the first picture are, from top to bottom, two RH model 100s, one LH model 100, one LH model 101, and a LH Luxus grade 105.
The LH 101 and the Luxus are the rarest. The 101 had a very heavy full bull barrel. It was used by Vainö Markkanen (Finland) to win the Gold in the Tokyo 1964 Olympics. But, it was considered too heavy by most mortals and was quickly redesigned with a lighter barrel.
The second picture shows the Luxus in it's hardshell case.

The 100 series Hämmerli Free Pistols are the only free pistols to win three "clean sweeps" (Gold, Silver & Bronze) in three different Olympic games (1952, 1956 & 1964). The only Gold medal ever won by an American in Free pistol was by Huelet "Joe" Benner in the '52 Helsinki Olympics!

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Oh, a couple more pictures....

First, a hilarious ad copy for the Drulov made by CZ.

Second, Huelet "Joe" Benner posing with his Hämmerli 100.

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There are some neat guns coming out of the wood work in this thread. Remembering some of the forgotten guns that were fun to shoot and own. Just a couple of pics added also of a couple of neat guns.

Jim, I sent an email to buy the carrying case, look for it so I can get the info needed to send money. That picture of the couple shooting the Drulov was me and my ex-wife. have some newer pics of the gun. The guns are actually well built and quite accurate and they use american ammo. The Contender is shown with a 32 magnum bbl on it, its 6 1/2" long.

I really like the single shot guns. hope some more will be mentioned or shown here. Larry
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Great thread, hope more photos to follow.
I had decided I did not need any more handguns, now looking to replace the Hammerli I gave to a friend years ago.
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Tony C. That MC55 (aka MU55, MTs 55) is very nice!
Here's a link to the manual:
http://www.pistoliers.com/manuel/Man...1M_English.pdf

It's a very interesting manual, almost a technical handbook. I like the round count/parts life chart on page 24! The MU55 is a very different FP, built to much higher standards, than the more common TOZ-35.
Moritz Minder of Switzerland used one to set a Free Pistol world record score of 577 in the Seoul 1978 World Cup. He had his pistol modified for his very unusual grip. I heard it was related to an injury he had.
Attached is a picture of him and his 50 meter 60 shot target. That is some amazing shooting!

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Hey,

Just a word of caution regarding the link to the "pyramyd air" blog posted by sniper007. The article contains many errors and omissions.
Note that the "summary" of the article states that the content has "more factual information about the gun and how it works" than any other source (yet, at the same time, mentions "German books" that the author did not consult!!).
I don't like submitting negative sounding posts, but I felt compelled to comment. All too often, second and third hand "facts" get passed along and become entrenched. Far from criticizing the author, I suspect that he has simply become a victim of this phenomena, and is not to be personally blamed!

Time and space prevents me from writing a comprehensive article (a book would be a better medium). But it would be unfair to make a criticism without offering some explanation. So, to name a few, the trigger is adjustable down to 5 grams, not 30. Benner won the Gold in '52, not '56. Speculation on existence of left handed models? Well, you see my pictures above....
Also, the MP33 and the model 100 are not the same. MP33s are all different from one another, especially the pre-war vs. post-war examples. A three lever set trigger was most commonly used, five levers for the model 100. In fact, when the five lever set trigger was developed in 1951, the pistol became known at the factory, and in their literature, as the (surprise!) "Match Pistol of 1951". Grip frame angles are different between the MP33 and Model 100. Frame assembly methods, spring fabrication, frame markings... on & on, all vary. And, as I mentioned earlier as each was custom ordered, thus there are tons of variations.
The 22 Extra Long cartridge was an option primarily for domestic versions (the ones I've seen were generally marked "Schweiz" rather than "Switzerland" as per export models). The 22 Extra Long cartridge was made by the Thül Munitions factory, where it was known as Patronen No. 7. It was originally loaded with 8 grains of very fine black powder. The cartridge remained an option for Hämmerli free pistols until 1947, when the cartridge was discontinued by Thül, not 1935 as stated in the article. (I got that information from Ferdinand Hediger, former CEO of Hämmerli, so you can "take it to the bank".)

Well, I could go on and on. Hope I haven't said too much already!

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The link you provided does not work for me, I would sincerely appreciate being able to read it.
Thanks for sharing!!
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Thank you 6string, I've heard from some old timer about a certain European pistol shooter having a sideway grip when I took up pistol shooting years ago, only now I'm able to learn his name, what a target! wish I could do that.

My MC 55 comes with Rink after market grip installed by the previous owner, I assume the original grip has been modified to the point of no longer useable! Don't have a manual and the link you provided didn't work for me, but I learn to how to make various adjustments by looking up the TenP files.

Here is a link to a site for classic target pistol fanciers:

Home - www.classictargetpistols.com
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Hmm, the link didn't work this time for me either!
I'll try again:
http://www.pistoliers.com/manuel/Man...1M_English.pdf

Or this:
https://f4c4487c-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites....edirects=0&d=1
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Hey,

I was looking for more on Moritz Minder and found this great article by Hannes Rainer.
There's more on Mr. Minder, but even better, an article about the Ruess parabolic mirror sight. For a brief while this was an optional accessory for the Hämmerli 100 series Free Pistols. But, the UIT made it illegal for competitive use. It effectively doubles your sight radius, makes it easier to focus on sights and target, but magnifies sight wobble.
Somewhere, I have a copy of the manual for that sight...

Oh well, attached is a copy of an old German catalog with price list in German Marks.

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Here's a bit more I found on the Ruess mirror sight that was offered by Hämmerli. This quote is from Modern Pistol Shooting by P.C. Freeman:

“The mirror sight has been introduced to free pistol shooting by Reiny Ruess, a member of the Swiss National Team. It is described in the March 1967 edition of Hammerli News and the following description is adapted from this bulletin. The foresight is substituted by a parabolic mirror with a focal length of the distance between the mirror and the backsight. The conventional backsight is substituted by a small plate which is white on the target side with a black triangle whose apex is just below the centre of the plate. This triangle is reflected in the mirror and because the mirror is parabolic the focus to the eye of the reflected triangle is at infinity. The target is also at infinity to the eye. The eye can then focus on the target and the reflected sight at the same time. The backsight plate must be well illuminated and this sight is not suitable for indoor ranges.
The method of aiming is to bring the pistol into the aiming position and let the mirror cover the lower half of the aiming mark. Close the aiming eye and focus the other eye on the target. The aiming eye is then opened and the triangle will be seen in the mirror. The shooter then brings the triangle into the right position under the aiming mark and fires.
This method of aiming has the advantage that the eye is used in its most relaxed focus. Both eyes are open and conventional shooting glasses are not required. As the shooter grows older he finds that it becomes harder to focus at short distances and therefore this method will appeal to him."


Attached are some better pictures showing the sights and how they work.

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Thanks again 6string, lots of interesting info, very much appreciate for the manual, I learn much more about my pistol in the last few hours then the previous 12 years i've own it.

Congratulation for your excellent collection of Hammerli free pistols, especially the Luxus is such a rare find.
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There is some really neat info surfacing here. The mirror sight looks like it would be good for aging eyesight. Jim, did you ever see one for sale??

Since the Hammerli is working for me I'll have the Drulov for sale in the classifieds soon. Don't need 2 free pistols, still have the T/C Contender to shoot in 3 calibers. The Drulov has a strong lock up and would make a neat gun in .32 short. Larry
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Sorry to be late to this thread, but I don't visit the "Other Brands" forum as often as I should.
Along with Smiths, I too also love free pistols. Here are my older Hammerli pistols; I also have a 152:


As previously mentioned, Joe Benner took the Olympic gold with a Hammerli in 1952. Another American, Franklin Green, took the silver in 1964. He later designed and marketed a limited number of his own pistols, reportedly using a modified Winchester 52 action. The most unusual feature was his electric trigger. Since the only connection between the trigger group and barreled action was a wire, the balance of the pistol could be altered by sliding the barreled action forward and back on the stock.


As much as I love my Smith & Wesson singleshots, remember that in the first half of the twentieth century, we were shooting them and Colt Woodsmans in international competition against guns like this:


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Absolutely beautiful, thanks for sharing!! Earlier the use of smaller chambers in Hammerli that would not handle US 22 ammo was mentioned.

Were these chambers smaller than the S&W top break single shot Olympic 22's ?
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Here's a link to the patent for Frank Green's electro-mechanical trigger free pistol:
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And, here's a link to a 1960 Shooting Times article on the High Standard electronic trigger free pistol.
The High Standard and the Green free pistols were closely related.

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Bob, do you have a close up of the Hammerli with the carved stock. Would like to see it or one of both sides. Looks like oak leaves and that's a weakness of mine. What's the bottom one with the nice dark walnut and finger grooves?

Jim, the link on the High Standard guns will be an interesting read. Seems like some nice one of a kind guns here. Larry
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Hi Bob,

Nice stuff you got there! Bottom one looks a lot like a Udo Anschütz model 200? Torsten Ullmann of Sweden used one to win the Gold in the 1936 Olympics.
For anyone curious about the spur trigger guard, check out my attached picture!

Nice Hämmerlis! Anyone checking these out should note the differences between each. There's always some subtle little differences that Hämmerli did with each one, especially when it came to options like the carved grips. Each was one of a kind.

I added another picture of mine so you can see the carving better. Also, included the original 10 shot 50 meter test target.

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Love this thread! The lower gun is marked only "OLYMPIA" on the left frame. It is identical to the one identified as "System Kommer Olympia Modell" on p.112 of Alte Scheibenwaffen, v.3 (expensive, but a must have for anyone interested in older European free pistols). Close ups of the oak leaf carving on the Hammerli:



The Green (later Electroarm) and High Standard were two of the three post-war US attempts at a free pistol. Another article on the High Standard indicated that it was intended for retail production, but as far as I know only 10 or 12 were ever made for the AMU shooting team. The third was the Tompkins, which I understand was as accurate as it was beautiful:


One pre-war European style pistol is this modified USRA. Roper attributes an identical, except for barrel length, to New York gunsmith George Hyde, better known for the M3 "grease gun."


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The Drulov will be up for sale, its a nice gun. Want to offer it here first before the Classified. It will be 550.00+20 shipping. PM me and I'll send you my cell number.

Love the wood work on the Hammerli's, very nice touch. Last April I was in Tulsa, a one time bucket list trip. David Carrol had a Free Pistol for sale. Did the Germans make one, never picked it up to look at it. It was engraved and was beautiful. Went back to look at it and it was gone. I believe he had 1600 on it and someone said it was German. Now that I'm into the free pistols, that was a good price.

Will have some pics of a carrying case made for right hand Hammerli's. Should have it Mon-Tue, Larry
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A buddy of mine has a Hammerli from the 1930s. His dad was a
MP in WW2 and Occupation of Germany. The wood on it is carved
but one of the flares was split off. It has a "ring" front sight. I don't know if true but his dad said front sight was a Boars Hair.
Closest we could find, was a Luna model ? Last time I saw it, was
sporting custom Duct Tape job on grips. Being a MP, the dad got
more than his share of guns home. He didn't waste his time on
military stuff. He got the top shelf civilian sporting arms.
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Jim (6string) offered a period correct case for the Hammerli, right handed. It came in the mail today, now I'm collecting Hammerli items. Look out on the Hammerli Forum, here I come. It has a carrying handle, strip of leather for a cleaning rod and shoulder strap. There is a compartment for a box of shells also, pretty neat. Might be able to carry it concealed since i have a permit. Larry
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Hi Larry,
If you look back to the first pic of Joe Benner, the one from the Helsinki games, you'll see the same case! You can clearly see the slot for the cleaning rod.
Glad you like it!

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Just an update on the Hammerli 100. Last Tuesday morning at the retired guys shoot, the gun went 50 shots with only one re-set on the set trigger. Going to eventually take the trigger assembly back out and try to get a little more oil on certain spots after I look at it. Very happy it's working correctly after getting the dried oil out and re-lubing with fresh oil.

One of the bullseye shooters at the club had a bunch of different high end ammo that I am benching to see what the gun likes. So far it's Eley 10x. This gun must be a female, it likes the expensive stuff. Trying to find one box of Wolf target to try, if it shoots OK there is an ammo seller at the gun show with it at 65.00 a brick. Better then 8.65 with tax a box for Eley target. I hear SK and Wolf are the same. Larry
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Looking for some info; I'm considering a hammerli 152 and want to know the value, good condition with hard case, tools & manual. Needs battery connector replaced Thanks
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