I had one all German Sig Sauer P220 45 ACP and got a 22LR conversion unit for it, and like the pistol with the 22 conversion unit on it so much, I decided to buy another new all German P220 45 ACP so I didn't have to switch calibers on my only P220. Both of these pistols are very accurate and are fun to shoot. Top pistol (22) has factory Sig laminated grips on it, and the bottom pistol (45) has Nill-Griffe Walnut grips.

Nice Pistols!

Too bad Sig's customer service is so horrible.
After the experience I had with them, I'll never own another Sig Sauer.

I've had two over the years, a bottom release first and then an American release. They're just too big for my taste, and my hand fits a 1911 much better. As for their customer service, I broke a grip screw once by over torquing it, and they sent me a full set without charge. They functioned perfectly, like every other Sig I've owned over the years . . .

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I just purchased a new P220R (with a rail).

The E2 grips fit perfectly. I love the overall slim profile, and it balances just perfectly. It's surprisingly lightweight for it's overall size.

The wood grip panels on yours look great. If the E2 grips didn't fit my hand so perfectly, I'd get a pair of wood grips.

well i had a two different Sig P220s for 12 years now...and i can say without a doubt...it is one the best pistols i ave ever owned...customer service has been excellent and never cost me anything as well...i am looking for a new ankle gun and considering the P938 because of the great quality of the products they produce...i would recommend them to anyone ...they are not the cheapest...but i would rather have quality versus quantity any day ....i have the wood nill grips on my german 220 as well..they are the best ...God Bless,John

I had a nickel one, but sold it. It functioned perfectly. but was too big for me. I have several Sig 9mm's and they also function perfectly.

I have 3. 220, 228, 2022 Selling the 228. Nice gun but the grips are formed for a right hand shooter and as a lefty the right panel digs into my thumb when shooting. They should have kept the old style 226 grips but with more aggressive texture.

The 2022 has an odd angle and grips are a little too smooth but I can shoot it well. May need to invest in some skateboard tape or that rubber piece that goes around

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Best .45 auto ever made. I carried mine for 25 years as an FBI agent.

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I've had only the best treatment from Sig!

Kind of a Sig fan. My P220 is one of my favorite 45 ACPs that is not a 1911. I prefer the older W. German guns with proof marks and date codes on the slide. The US made P220 had a rough patch when they converted to the stainless steel slide and external extractor but they seem to have corrected those and are making solid guns. I am not a rail guy so I like the older carbon steel P series pistols.

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These days it is very hit or miss and very rep dependent. Cohen brought the Kimber mentality to the Sig CS department.

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My professional carry piece for twenty years starting in 1988. It wasn't so hard to hide and the weight is reasonable. We used thumb-break pancake holsters OWB, with a jacket or a good cover shirt...no problem. I loved the accuracy of them, but had to go through a bunch of magazines to find four that would reliably drop free. Our qualification course had a fifty yard station. With the P220...no big deal.

W. German 220 will shoot clover-leafs at 50 ft...... replaced my 1911s in the mid-late 80s....... for concealed carry I went to the 245.

I own two, a West German with the flat spur hammer and triple matching serial numbers and a S/S Match Elite with a 5" barrel. They are totally reliable, very accurate and extremely well made. The triggers aren't the best, but with practice I've become fairly proficient with them. Terrific guns.

Might be a P220 fan or two around here Since the early 90s I've owned several, a standard alloy frame, all stainless, match with 5" barrel, two German mfg. 9MMs,etc. All excellent guns.

Currently only have a one, a 1995 P220-1 in 9MM that I purchased LNIB, unfired, a couple years or so ago. No longer unfired

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I recently sold my P220 Carry to purchase a new 327 PC 2". P220 was a great gun. I just took my 327 to the range today and unfortunately ran into some issues. The wooden grips would move/shift every shot. The double action wasn't as crisp as I have read about- feels much heavier then the reported 10lb. Out of 66 shots, I had 2 ftf via light primer strikes w/ new quality ammo. And the biggest issue, I started shooting right about 40 shots in and discovered the front sight shifted left about half a centimeter. Really bummed about this. Dished out a lot of cash for this, trying to decide if I should report this to the shop I bought it from or go directly to SW. Sorry for the rant, P220 is awesome.

I discovered Sigs a few months ago. Bought a 2022. Liked it a lot, but then traded up to a 226R in 9mm. Then got a 220r in 45 ACP. AND a 239 in 9mm.
I'm a 1911 guy and a S&W guy. But theses Sigs... YUMMY!!
My shootin buddy caused it!!!

I'm more of a holster collector than a gun collector, but I like this
SIG P-220 a lot. It is hiding in some of it's holsters, left to right:

Haugen holster, belt, & double mag pouch.

Aratoonian Inside waistband.

Dillon Cactus League Slide.

Rosen 5JR President

Safariland police duty holster.

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When my younger son got his HCP, he chose a P220 Compact as his EDC. I shot it a few times and other than the short grip, I really liked it.
I found a older German gun on GB and got it at a very good price. Great pistol! Shoots really good.
I still prefer my 1911s for carry though.

My favorite DA/SA .45 Auto. Size and weight is similar to a Lightweight Commander although thicker than a 1911, yet seems to recoil less than the Lightweight Commander, more reliable in the early versions, and more accurate than most out of the box 1911s'. Have several that I carry.

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I have two Sig P220 with one being a P220R Carry SAO and I must say the trigger is awesome. I also have a P220 that I had refinished and some other modifications.
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The SIG P220 has been my favorite double action auto-loader since it's introduction to America in the 1970s

When the choice has been mine, a SIG P220 has been on my hip since 1977

I've had one for long time and shoot only cast bullets in it. Probably as accurate as an accurate 1911.

Normally I favor the 1911 platform but the 220 Carry is my go-to night stand gun.

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I've owned a few. Top one's only one left in my safe.

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I bought a SIG P220 .45 in 1986. It's been the primary home defense handgun for 30 years now. The slide finish is worn, though the frame looks almost new. The tritium lamps went dead long ago. The checkering on the grips is smooth, and original replacements are apparently made of Unobtanium. SIG offers a slide refinishing service and can do a tuneup on older guns, replacing all springs, and installing new lamps. Might sent it in. The P227, the fatter brother of the P220, will become the new home defense handgun. If anyone is wondering, yes, the slides and barrels interchange.



My son has a police surplus P220. It's been totally reliable for him.



I also have the "Baby P220", which is a P225 9mm. The P220 came in 9mm at one time, but there was demand for the same gun in a smaller package, particularly from the West German police, so SIG scaled down the P220.

I was just coming to the "Firearms Knives Other Brands" thread to post a question about the Sig P220. I handled one a year or two ago, and really like how it felt in my hand. It was marked as a P220C, but was larger than my P30. I believe it had the Nitron finish, which I kind of liked.

The other day while I was waiting to pick up my silencer, the gun shop had 2 of them in the same case. Both were simply marked Sig P220, .45 acp but they were NOT the same gun.
The first one looked and felt like the one I handled previously, a bit bigger but very comfortable. The handle was full size and felt great in my hand. It had a standard rail on it, and a two piece wrap around grip, and decocker

The second one had a smaller grip, which wasn't comfortable for me. It seemed to either be a 1 piece or maybe even a molded part of the gun itself. It had a rail but was curved rather than a standard rail.

Any idea what the differences in these 2 Sig P220s? Besides the $150 on the price tag? Is it just a newer model of the P220?

Anything to look out for?

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CustomChevyGuy, the P220 has undergone a lot of changes over the years.

The one in my post above is from 1986. It has the stamped sheetmetal slide (which was state of the art aircraft technology at the time). The breechblock is held in with a doubled roll pin. The muzzle area is electron beam welded in place. The older grip you liked is probably like mine.

The P220 slides today are made in the USA and are machined from a solid steel billet. They are stronger but weigh a bit more. Currently the grip is a one piece ergonomic grip, which is a love/hate affair, apparently. I like both the early and the later grips, but some hate the later grips. Right now it is the only plastic grip option on the P220, but two piece wood grips, and there are Hogue G10 grips available. Hogue is making most if not all of the wood and G10 grips for SIG.

P220 Nitron Full-Size
This is an example of the latest version with the one piece ergonomic grip.

As a generality, you should be able to put a two piece grip on a model that has a one piece grip. However, my P227 is early enough it lacks the screw holes in the frame and requires adapters. I don't know it the P220 always had screws or if the early one piece grip models lacked the screw holes. Take the magazine out and see if you see two screw holes on the frame on either side of the mag well.

You can see all of the current factory grip styles for the P220 here:
P220 | Sig Sauer

SIG has some plastic grips available:
Black Grip Set, Black Polymer, P220 SLIM FIT, 2-Piece | Parts
FDE Grip Set, Flat Dark Earth, P220 (As Used On Combat) | Parts

The above will fit later model SIGs with the slim mainspring housing. They WILL NOT fit an older SIG like mine with the larger mainspring housing.

Hogue has a plethora of grips for the P220:
Hogue Inc.

Edit: You mentioned a "standard rail" on one of the SIGs. You mean a slotted rail or was it just a smooth frame? The reason I ask is the first SIG rails we slotted but unlike a Picatinny the profile had a slight curve to it. This caused complaints and SIG now makes the slotted rail with a flat profile, more like a true Picatinny.

This is my favorite SIG, a very early 220 single stack 9mm heel release that served in operation desert storm on both sides.



Below is my favorite P 210 Legend Target.

I had the early 220 9mm heel release. It was made in 77 and surplus Geneva Switzerland police gun. Nice gun but it jammed something wicked at the range and I traded it away

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I love my Sigs, and my collection started with a P220.

The 45's - P220 P227 P245

Ton of good information in the reply, Thank you!

I think the one that I didn't like might have been a newer Carry version, as it had a bit of a shorter barrel. I personally like the older style with the P220 block script on the grips.

This is a photo of the one I handled previously. I was looking for a 1911 on that trip but the LGS I was at, didn't have any that I was considering. The P220 caught my eye, and I seriously considered getting that instead.

As for the rail section, both looked like they were somewhat curved, but the one with the grip I didnt like had the more noticeable curvature..which is what actually made me look at the two rail sections at all..

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Love the 220s - nothing bad to say about them one bit. This one has been around the block a few times. I've posted the same pic before, but it's the only one I have of it for now.

That one has the slimmer two piece grips with the stippled finish and gun model on it. SIG says they will not fit the very early guns. The one piece ergonomic grips (often referred to as the E2 grips) are even slimmer.

The slotted rail has a rounded profile. Most Picatinny accessories will fit it, but some may be loose. This is why SIG has gone to a flat rail design on the latest guns.

I think that is the one piece slide, not the earlier one. You need to look at the other side of the slide near the muzzle to see if it references Germany or if it only has the New Hampshire markings.

SIG Sauer Proof Marks and Date Codes - Real Gun Reviews

SIG is changing the EXETER NH marking to NEWINGTON NH marking on the latest guns.
Goodbye 'Exeter' markings: Sig Sauer to change roll marks

The P220 in your pic at $670 seems to me to be a bit high for used, especially if it does not have tritium night sights or if they are getting dim. Check that, and bargain accordingly or get them to install a fresh set. Having said that, prices vary regionally and even by state. In states that restrict new guns for state compliance, older ones can fetch a premium. Also, how many extra mags? All SIGs ship with two mags, so if only one mag, a replacement is around $40 to $50.

That pic is from a year or two ago, not the one I saw earlier this week. It definitely said Germany, as I vividly remembering my dad laughing and saying how I always liked the German guns, referencing my affinity for the H&K I carry.
I doubt that exact gun is still at the shop, being that it's an old photo. The tritium sights were still visible. I really liked how the trigger felt. H&K mags run about the same price range, so that's not a shock.

I'm blessed to live in Florida, sometimes referred to as the Gun-shine state. We've been lucky enough not to have to worry about the state compliance, or any capacity limits..so far.

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Keep in mind it is possible to have the frame made in Germany but the slide made in the USA.

Depending on age yes. It started late 90s and lasted into the mid 00s. Now it's all done here. Since 2000 SIG Sauer Inc (USA) has been organizationally separate from manufacturer SIG Sauer GmbH (SwissArms)

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Those bullets look like SWCs. My son had a 220 and a 227 and they wouldn't feed 200 gr. SWCs. Did you do anything extra to get them to feed or was he just unlucky? The same load has always worked like a dream in my 1967 Colt. Larry

My favorite 45 ACP. I own 2 a West German and a stainless steel railed model. Both have performed flawlessly.

Originally posted by Arik: had the early 220 9mm heel release. It was made in 77 and surplus Geneva Switzerland police gun. Nice gun but it jammed something wicked at the range and I traded it away.

Wish you still had it, would trade you out of it. Mine has never ever jammed.

I don't know what happened to it. It was the first time at the range and it was pretty bad. Using brass case avg range ammo. Everything was fine then all of a sudden one round got stuck into the feed ramp. I couldn't pull the mag out or move the slide. Finally got the slide to move, locked it back and used my keys to push the round back into the mag. That was a pain. Got it far enough back but the mag would only come out half way and even then it was hard to pull on. Took the slide off and after probably 20 min I managed to pop that round out of the mag and then the mag dropped free. It was a shame too. Nice clean gun even had the Geneva stamps on it and some special weird attachment on the bottom of the mag well.

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First handgun I bought with my own money was a P220 .45. Very accurate, easy to take down, trigger seemed better than the Beretta 92s I was used to after the Marines. Like an idiot I sold that gun.

Had the opportunity to pick up a P220 Equinox recently, but passed and got a 27-2 instead.

While I like 1911s well enough, if I had to pack a single stack .45 it would be a P220 hands down, preferably a full size SAO one.

I still have my Hawes import from the 70's a Browning import BDA etc.
I've NEVER had an issue with any Sig I own.
P210,P220,P224,P225,P226,P228,P229

I picked up a P220 West German built in 1992 pistol about a week ago. Have not shot it yet as I am waiting on the wood grips I bought and my arthritis is acting up in my dominant hand. Do not like the OEM plastic grips at all. Other than a lot of holster wear, prior police pistol, the gun is perfect mechanically. Locks up like a bank vault. Grips should be here in a day or two, finally.
I am seriously considering getting a Sig Legion pistol. Have read a lot of good things about those.

QUOTE: "I'm more of a holster collector than a gun collector,..."

A holster collector! Who would have thought?

That's too bad! I have had nothing but great experiences with Sig and their CS reps. I only needed assistance with one small issue, one time. I have ordered parts and accessories many times. Always a great experience.

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Model39, I noticed that one of your Model 220s has an internal extractor and the other, an external extractor. Have you ever noticed a difference in functional reliability between the two?

A few years back, I bought a Model 220 Carry having the much-maligned internal extractor. Truth be told, after a few hundred (not thousands) rounds fired through that pistol, I did not experience one malfunction. But, when I picked up and held a Model 227 (basically, a Model 220 with a double-stack magazine) mat my lgs, I fell in love with the E2 grip; the same of which is on my SIG Model 226. I sold the Model 220 Carry and bought the Model 227 and have never looked back. It has also been proven to be 100% reliable with hundreds (not thousands, yet) rounds fired through it.

I went with the Model 227 over the Model 220 mostly because I much prefer the E2 grip (some people feel oppositely; everybody's different) over the "standard" one. The extra two rounds of .45 ACP cartridges is just icing on the cake for me.

I bought a brand new Stainless Sig 220. It was a fantastic shooter, but being machined from a solid billet of stainless steel without a doubt the heaviest pistol I ever tried to carry as a duty weapon. The rubber grips that came on it fit really cheesy and moved around. I literally couldn't carry it because my pants would fall down. Sold it, and the dealer who sold it has sold it 2 more times since. I own a P-6 SIG in 9mm and it is a fantastic weapon. Came with the original blue plastic box, book in German and original target fired at the factory. Even has the cops name on the box.

I have that same gun (I think... P220 Match, SAO) and it will feed 200 gr and 185 gr SWC bullets. Both loaded to 1.240"-1.245"
I use it for PPC Service matches. It is EXACTLY like cheating, using the Match SAO!

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