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Old 02-27-2017, 11:27 AM
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Is the Remington/Winchester 3rd iteration of the black powder 44/77 rimed cartridge a very collectable round? These have a 355gr lead bullet over 90gr of BP with a very large primer. Your thoughts!
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Old 02-27-2017, 11:33 AM
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I'm a cartridge collector and I've never seen a .44-77 although they are out there. It is certainly a collectable, probably in the $10-20 range per cartridge.

You might try some of the cartridge dealers online for more information.
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Old 02-27-2017, 11:44 AM
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You might post your collectible ammunition value questions on the International Ammunition Association site. That's where all the ammo collectors hang out. COTW has a little to say about the .44-70, mainly that it was a round for both Sharps and Remington-Hepburn #3 rifles, and was loaded with a variety of bullet weights. I have not seen one.
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:37 PM
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These were produced by Remington (and their various divisions) Sharps and Winchester. The brand will affect the price! I also believe the 44-77 is the same case as the 43 Spanish military round, which explains why you never see one, when the surplus rifles hit this country, any reloadable ammo was used up.

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Old 02-27-2017, 04:05 PM
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I've seen 44-77 cartridges in other collections, but, alas, not in my own. I've also seen 44-77 Hepburn rifles, original as well as rebarreled, in BPCRS competition, though with modern brass. I was really into single shot rifles and cartridge collecting at one time and got to see a lot of unique guns and cartridges.

If you have a 44-77 cartridge for your collection, treasure it.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:40 PM
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Both COTW and Donnelley's book make mention that factory (Remington) reloadable two-piece cases with a steel head for the .44-77 are known. COTW also says the .44-77 was inspired by the .42 Russian and .43 Spanish cases.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:28 PM
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The 44-77 was said to have been one of the top 5 bison killers.
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