Walther’s PP/PPK/PPKs design uses the barrel to guide the recoil spring, and it field strips by removing the slide over the back of the frame, after you’ve pulled down the trigger guard.

I got this CZ Model 83 recently. It’s kind of a double-stack, updated version of the PP line. It breaks down in the same way. I know other gun makers make similar designs, though the trigger guard doesn’t necessarily release the slide.

If you’ve got a pistol, Walther or otherwise, that follows this general pattern, let’s see them.

Here are mine. A couple of worn, surplus pistols. My favorite kind.

CZ Model 83 in .380, made in 1990.



Walther PP in 32 acp. It was made in 1964.

Can you explain the shoulder holster, the Beretta- like mags and the lack of normal markings? Was this gun made up for a GI after the Walther plant was captured?

no. it was found in a box of discarded items exactly like that. the mags are correct ww2 vintage with what appears to be beretta floor plates.

the holster has no markings. the gun is non matching and has no waffenamts. ive read the speculation about being made after the capture of the factory.. but i just dont know.

It was found then? There?
Interesting, if so. I wonder what the story behind it was.

my wife helped a woman pack and move and she was getting rid of a bunch of stuff. she said to take whatever she wanted and the rest was going to goodwill.

she said her husbands father was a ww2 vet, so i assume thats where it came from.

This was my EDC for a long time, now it's a 638, but I still have the Walther.



I missed out on an 83 a few weeks ago, got a Hi-Power, but when I went back for the 83, it was gone

Snooze you loose.

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The big bore long barreled magnum PPK... lol
FEG PA-63 is chambered in 9x18 Mak... Surprisingly accurate.... DA is like cracking a walnut... but SA is acceptable...

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Polish P64

Very early Mauser HSC with original holster. I was lucky - it came with original holster and 2 mags. Holster has Nazi markings and german writing inside that says it came from a Field Hospital in Feller, Germany.

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The Sig P232 is a very close design to the Walther. These are getting harder to find as they stopped importing them.

FEG SMC 9x18 with IA PPK for comparison. The SMC made the point system by a hair.

Well that was the whole point of the point system............................

Yeah, to keep the junky SNS's like the PPK & others out of this country. But that's ok, makes all of mine all the more valuable.

CZ82 are hard to beat in 9mm Makarov.

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I only owned one PP (.32), which is long gone. But it was a good example, complete with all the Nazi stampings. The Combloc 9mm Makarov is a fairly close copy of the PP. I don't presently have any of those either, but I did have one several years back. I should have kept it.

My PPK and P-64 are very close in size. I can use the same holster for both.

Here is a few

Although I don't have one, I thought it would be neat to remind everyone of the Walther PPK/E, which was a Walther-marked pistol made by FEG.

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Since we can include 9x18 in this thread...

Don't forget the little Iver Johnsons
TP-22 in 22lr
and
TP-25 in 25acp

Both a (small) handful of fun.

I always thought the Walther's double action was horrible, but this gun is even horribler!

Well, I've got a number of guns that meet the criteria, now all I have to do is round up a few pictures of some of them!!

I've always believed that the Russian Pistolet Makarova was loosely based on the Walther PP system. Here's mine from 1987:



Best Regards, Les

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I've seen several comments about the PA 63 and the DA trigger pull online over the years, but mine must have had some work done on it. It's not bad at all. Now, the recoil is something else; it'll give you carpal tunnel syndrome in a hurry.

The P64, on the other hand, has acceptable recoil characteristics, but must be the most bizarre DA/SA combo I've ever shot. DA has to be over 20 lbs, and the SA is probably around 1 or 2 lbs. It is startling to do that transition, even when you expect it. I've let a couple friends shoot it without telling them, and the reaction on each after the first followup SA is "...oh...."

Actually the P64 action is quite nice after replacing the ridiculously stiff factory springs and the fit n finish is much better than any Combloc Makarov I have handled (BTW although the P64 is chambered in 9mm Mak its not a Makarov copy )

I may have to look into that spring change.

I have to quibble about the fit and finish part, but I've got a good reason- someone ground something off the left side of my P64, so the finish is buggered up there. Outside of that, yes, it's very nice... but it doesn't match my East German Mak. Pictures don't do it justice, it's a beautiful gun.

It just doesn't get any better than a 9X18 CZ82, this one from 1987. They feel like they were poured into your hand.

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Just a lowly FEG PA 63 in 9 x 18. I did manage to replace the stupid thumbrest grips. Mine has the black grip frame. The trigger pull is pretty good on mine, it came with a Wolff spring kit installed, and a bunch of spare recoil springs in a variety of weights. During the Great Ammunition Crisis I traded some of my 9mm stash for it.

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Regarding the P64 as someone said Wolf springs make a world of difference. I went with an 18lb hammer spring I think that made double action much nicer and a 22lb mainspring which helped with recoil. Wolf also includes a new firing pin spring as well.

Here's some more from my accumulation, all in 9x18 Makarov caliber....first a Bulgarian Makarov, 1987:



East German made in 1962:



Chinese Makarov, unknown date of manufacture:



Polish P64, 1975 production:



Hungarian P 63, unknown year of production:



Czech CZ82, made in 1990 (thanks, Sheepdawg!):



Best Regards, Les

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SIG P230

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The CZ82 is from 1990.

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Thanks, Sheepdawg!! I'll amend the post above.

Best Regards, Les

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Here's FEG's R61, the military version (in 9x18 Mak) of the SMC that CZU posted. Works fine with the longer mags of the later (larger) PA-63. The R61 is actually a modification of the earlier Hungarian RK 59. The 59's aluminum frame would develop cracks, so the Hungarians added scandium (that's right, just like S&W did in the Nineties) to the Al and called it the R61.



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I can't believe this thread has made it this far without an Astra Constable.
My first semi-auto carry pistol was a Constable .380, which I wish I still had today.

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Here's mine:

This one has an "IA" proof date mark-1980 w/ Interarms export markings


'67 proof mark


Manurhin PPK/S


Ulm-proofed '69

Les, looks like you need a Polish P-83, just for completeness (as do I).

In case you haven't checked into them, the P-83 was the replacement for the P64, made of stamped metal instead of milled. It's larger, more equivalent to the Makarov in size, and I think it's the last duty gun designed around 9x18. They don't appear to look as nice as the P64, but are reportedly good shooters.

I don't have one, but I think the Bernadelli Model 80 is one of the weirdest guns as far as safeties go. It has two! A hammer block on the slide and a up/down sear block in front of the left grip where the magazine release is on most of these other models. It has a heal magazine release. You almost have to make an appointment to fire it if both safeties are on.

The previous Model 60 had just the sear block, with no slide mounted safety.

Just about ever edge is sharp on those things too.

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Oh! I forgot this unissued Soviet military Makarov:



Weird storage damage to the finish only visible in the right light:

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I had an Astra Constable some years ago but I never shot it and I finally sold it.

But a PPK/S .22 will do here.

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This one's the real McCoy - a PPK, 1940 vintage. It is a WWII bringback belonging to a WWII combat aviator vet who is a good friend of mine. He has indicated to me that his will shows it being bequeathed to me when he passes. He's 93 now - but I hope this doesn't happen soon.



This is my own PPK/S - made in West Germany in Ulm:



These Makarovs are on the same concept, but of different construction:



Of course the Mauser HSc is quite similar to the Walther PP series, but avoided any possibility of patent infringement:



John

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Eeesh!

I forgot about this beater P232!

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Here's another Astra Constable in 22LR



I also own the P-64 and a CZ 82, and a Mauser HSc. Used to own a Sig- Sauer P230. The Sig is the only pistol I wish I had actually kept!

Oh, and I have two PPK/s, one stainless and one in 22LR made in W. Germany.

We need a Bersa Thunder...

Oh, that's right . . . I also forgot the Mauser HSC . . .

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I'll play. I have quite a fondness for the Walther PP series pistols.



Top row:
PPK .380 Interarms/Ranger 1997
PPK/S .380 German/ Interarms Import 1976

Center Row:
S&W PPK/S-1 .32acp 1999
PP .32 acp German/Century import 1983

Bottom Row:
PPK/S .22 German (Umarex) 2013
TPH .22LR Interarms/Ranger 1990

My Sig 230SL. I liked it and not really sure why I sold it.

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Just sold my HK4. Gonna miss it.

I sometimes miss the little Iver Johnson I had.

I guess the PP is gonna go next.........