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Choice of .410 shotgun
Not sure which sub-forum to pick, but here goes; when I sold my Governor, it left me with a pile of .410 ammo, which I did not get rid of, thinking that a around-the-house varmint shotgun would not be a bad thing to have. Today I saw a Winchester model 37 'Steelbilt' single shot .410 at a LGS, with an asking of $495. Decent shape, although maybe a little overpriced after looking at the Blue Book. The only thing I recall ever seeing in a .410 that really floated my boat was a lovely Model 42 pump, but that would be way more $ than I would want to spend on this piece. Any thoughts on what I should or could be looking at? Is the model 37 a decent choice? I am not hung up on any particular brand, a break barrel single shot seems to make sense for my intended use.
Thanks for any thoughts,
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If you are not looking for a gun that will increase in value Rossi makes a single shot .410 that sells for around $150 new. Or you could get a new Remington 870 Exp for less than the $495. Or a Mossberg 500 or 510.
There are many single shot used .410's that could be picked up for around $100.
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Get a Stevens SXS .410. Great little gun.
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Nice double always wanted one in 410, I have a Stevens in 20 ga, bought it used back in 64.
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Maybe a Savage 24 over/under in 410 and 22LR?
You'd have your shotgun plus a little plinker. They made a gazillion of them ..... reliable as a tank and won't break the bank either.
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Howabout a Howda?
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Look around for a used H&R break open. Shouldn't cost much and it will get the job done.
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Any break open singles will do. Stevens, H&R, Rossi, etc ,will do the job. Win 37 is way over priced.
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Yes, 37s are over priced just because they are Wins. A good
shape H&R, IJ, or Stevens can be had $150-200. Some of the
later models less. I just picked one up a couple weeks ago, a
H&R Bay State for $100. Trouble with 410s is they tend to be
passed down through families. Due to ammo costs a few are
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You can get a Mossberg .410 pump new for less than $300.
Any old single shot H&R or NEF will be a good inexpensive choice.
A Savage or Fox Model B .410 if you can find one reasobly priced.
There's also quite a few bolt action .410s that will do the job.
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I'm interested in a .410 myself and I'm looking at the Henry H018-410R. I kinda like it...
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Junk is overpriced. Quality is a good investment
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Take a look at
the ATI Calvary series over and unders.
American Tactical Imports
These are made (nicely) in Turkey and imported by ATI. The 410 is especially sweet. VG fit finish, solid actions, great walnut stocks and 5 choke tubes for about $500
We've sold these at the shop for a while. One customer has over 6000 rounds through his with a combination of bunny hunting and skeet shooting. I'm accustomed with higher end doubles but was impressed enough with the quality /fit/finish that I bought one in 410 myself. ( BTW, Many, mine included, come through with beautifully figured walnut.)
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Nice double always wanted one in 410, I have a Stevens in 20 ga, bought it used back in 64.
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Ha! I am the exact opposite. My older brother got the .410 we grew up with. I bought a Stevens SXS 20G last year; a 1956 model.
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I have only one .410 shotgun, a 1953 vintage Winchester Model 42, 25" modified choke, in pristine condition with hang tag and original box. Picked it up in a three-way trade several years ago. Value is somewhere between what I paid for my first new car and what I paid for my first house. No way it is getting more than a few feet away from the big bad gun safe. Also, no way I am willing to pay the prices they want for .410 ammo these days (I'll stick to 12-gauge for shooting fodder, thanks anyway).
If your sole objective is to use up a stash of .410 ammo pick up a Mossberg pump or a good old single shot break-action, then pound them out to your heart's content.
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The 37 Winchester were cheap guns when they were made, and way overpriced for anything but collecting in my opinion. A NEF single barrel would be fine for just burning up shells. If you wanted a nicer repeater, I'd probably look at a Remington 870.
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Here's a Springfield single barrel that I got in a pawn shop several months ago for $60:
Springfield .410 (& a friend!):
Targets Guy got it right though. The Stevens SxS .410 is a wonderful well balanced little shotgun!
Besr,
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If you have a larger gauge single or double, you can get a chamber insert to fire 410. Probably not worth the trouble in a repeater though.
All boils down to what you want and what you are willing to pay
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Another vote for the Stevens side-by-side. I can no longer hunt, but would love tp have one. My all-time favorite of the shotguns I've owned, just in terms of how it balanced for me and how I shot it, was a Stevens 311 in twenty gauge with the Sears name on it. I took a carload of doves and rabbits with that inexpensive little gun.
A .410 should be a joy.
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For occasional use and enough quality you will get your money back some day an old Winchester Mod 37 Single Shot in .410. Can be picked up in the $150 to $250 range depending on condition, and you will get at least that out of it, if not much more, 20 years from now.
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My favorite rabbit gun was a Win mod 42 that a old guy I used to go hunting with left me, he told his wife when he died he wanted me to have the gun, boy were his brothers mad, when I was no longer hunting I gave it to a young guy that belonged to our Beagle Club, he always liked the gun and was a nice kid, you should have seen the look on his face when I gave it to him.
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Second on the ATI recommendation. Picked up the .410 o/u a couple of months ago. really nice wood, good wood to metal fit, shoulders well. Came with a full set of choke tubes and tube wrench.
Have a model 42 but have wanted a .410 O/U for a long time.
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If I didn't have a shotgun I would buy a 12 ga. because they are cheaper and get an adapter (reducer) to shoot .410. When the .410 shells are gone it will be cheaper to shoot the 12 ga.
I have a 12. ga M94 Stevens and a .410 adapter and they work great. Larry
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I bought 3 Marlin/NEF shotguns in a morning at local Pawn shops, 2 20s and a .410. I sent all 3 receivers to Remington an Illion and had them fitted with rifle barrels. .223, .44 Mag, and what eventually became .357 Maximum. Ended up with $464 total in 6 fine single shots.
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I'm waiting to get my hands on one of these myself - what an awesome grouse gun!
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I bought 3 Marlin/NEF shotguns in a morning at local Pawn shops, 2 20s and a .410. I sent all 3 receivers to Remington an Illion and had them fitted with rifle barrels. .223, .44 Mag, and what eventually became .357 Maximum. Ended up with $464 total in 6 fine single shots.
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I really like that idea! I didn't know Remington would do that.
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I can identify with you. I had a bunch, and I mean a bunch, of .410 ammo hanging around the ol' homestead when I realized one day, by golly, I don't have a .410.
Not being in any sort of a rush, I just sorta kept my eyes open. Then, one day, I was in town at the local feed store and they had a little Stevens 555 .410 over/under on sale. Apparently it had been on the shelf for quite awhile and they were having a tough time moving it. Everybody wanted a 12 gauge....not a wimpy .410.
I can't remember what I paid for it, but it was a heckuva deal for what I got. It came with a set of choke tubes and while the action was a little stiff, it limbered up quickly.
Anyway, I took it out after jack rabbits for its first trial round and, let me tell you, that little gun is just plain darn fun to shoot.
Heck, if I hadn't already had a huge supply of .410 ammo around the place, I think I would've gone out and bought a bunch of it just as an excuse to get this little gun.
Downside...it's made in Turkey, not the USA. Still, a good little gun.
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I have several .410's (Winchesters, Remington's, etc.), let's just say I like them. With that said, my favorite is one that few people have ever heard of....wait for it......a Continental Arms single shot (circa 1940's I'd guess). It is built on a very petite frame and embodies what a .410 should be, practical, all day carry gun that won't break the bank. GREAT GUN.
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I bought my boy a Remington 870 in 410 the day he was born. 22" rib bbl, double bead sights and full choke. It's a favorite amongst the guys when it gets brought out skeet shooting.
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Iver Johnson or Stevens breakopen singles can usually be found for a lot less than the Winchester 37. The IJ will generally be a 'Champion' model.
Good serviceable single shots all day log.
Stevens, Mossberg, H&R and others made bolt action 410's both single shots and repeaters. Many were stamped with ***use brand' names of stores & retailers. Some pretty good buys there too, but also some guns with problems when you get into the repeaters,,feeding issues especially.
Missing detachable magazines are not cheap to replace if it doesn't come with one. The tube feed bolt actions aren't too bad in the functioning dept..
As already noted, the Winchester bolt action Model 41 is the king of the hill of 410 bolts and you will pay a premium for one generally
You always seem to pay a premium for a 410 anything over it's larger 12,16,20 gauge cousins.
A 410'ner insert is another thought if you already have a break open shotgun single or double. They made them in 12,16 and 20,,Savage retailed them and you can still find them around for about $75 +/-.
Two different styles, one w/a steel bbl insert and alloy chamber area fit, the other is all alloy. They both work the same and as well. Separate extractor/ejector works off the guns existing part.
Shoot up your existing 410 stockpile and then sell off the 410'ner insert.
Or just sell off or trade the 410 shells and be done with them. There's always a market for the expensive little shells.
At $12+a box for the things it's the one shot shell I load that really does make sense to load from a strictly monetary point of view.
About $3/box. 1/2oz of lead makes a 25# bag go a long way.
I'm down to one m42 Winchester.
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