Forgive and

[wingriderz]

Forget?? How many have had a new semi Auto been lets say less than flawless ?? This is my deal.Bought my first Springfield about a year and half ago. Bought new Xds 45acp. This is my first semi that I own that hasent been 100%. ( .32,.380,9mm,40 ) All across the board Smith Rugers and others. The Springfield would not run a full magazine for the 1st 500 rounds fail to feed and fire. It was a very rough break in.I did call when haveing issues they said its fairly normal. It now has around 700 to 750 threw it and no other issuse.It is a carry gun. Those that have issues with are semi do you move on or is it always in mind that you had some big no fire issue . And where do you draw line? Thanks.

[Iggy]

I've never had an automatic that didn't hang up, nor a revolver that did.

I'm carrying an auto, but there's always that little doubt in my mind.

[Rpg]

Never had a problem with a Colt 1911.

Never had to 'break one in'.

Seems like every Smith Tupperware I've shot displayed some funky thing. Needless to say, I haven't put my money in one: those I've shot belonged to others trying to see if the malfunction was attributable to the specific shooter.

Hard to trust pistols that seem to routinely display less than perfect function.

[Buford57]

The only "flawless" semis I've owned are a .45 Witness and a Remington RM380. Neither required a break in (although both got one). All the others (and there weren't that many) had to go through some growing pains before I'd trust them.

By the way, one of the flawless guns is in my nightstand and the other is in my wife's pocket...guess which.

[bigwheelzip]

If it's a design failure that remains unchanged, then it's for range only. If it's a manufacturing mistake that's put right, them all's good for self defense duty.

[American1776]

If I can get through 300 perfect rounds, I can call the gun pretty darned reliable, and I'd feel ok carrying for defense.

[Mule Packer]

Forty-five years ago, a detective friend of mine advised me to carry a revolver and not a semi-auto. The reason not to carry a semi-auto? In his words, "The [darn] things don't shoot when they're supposed to and shoot when they are not supposed to!"

Granted, that was forty-five years ago and a heckuva lot of improvements have been made to make semi-autos more reliable. But, to this day, that advice given decades ago, still lingers in my brain.

I have a Springfield 1911A1 Mil-Spec that has run flawlessly since I've owned it...but I still feel more confident with a revolver. Why? I dunno. Old habits (and old opinions) die hard, I guess.

[Kanewpadle]

Never had a failure of any kind with any of the Glock pistols I own. Could it happen? Yes of course.

Train and practice clearing malfunctions. I simply don't worry about it.

[Road Rat]

ANY name brand modern handgun that will not run flawlessly out of the box just isn't right!! There is absolutely no reason for "breaking in" a semi-auto handgun in the 21st century!!

[Cyrano]

Bought a new Colt Series 70 in 45. It had a problem that could get you killed. Shot normally, it would function fine. Shot as fast as you could, like in combat, and the trigger didn't reset. I couldn't find the trouble, and shot it a lot but the trouble didn't go away. Finally I detail stripped it. I had a Rem Rand and stripped it too, and put the parts together to compare them: trigger, sear, disconnecor and hammer. The difference stood out at once: the 'point' of the '70s sear was about 1/32" longer than the Rem Rand's sear. Aat the next gun show, I bought a military sear from a parts dealer, put it in and the problem disappeared. Still can't figure out why this would be a problem. Had Clark do a trigger job on it a few years later, and that really put the problem a long way behind me. That pistol, with night sights, is in my nightstand right now.

[Maddog 521]

wingriderz you do know to keep the striker, striker guide and channel dry. No oil there or problems will happen.
Just sayin

[tops]

The most reliable autos I have dealt with are military pre 70 .45 auto and Colt commercial pre 70 .45 autos.
I carry revolvers because over the years I have found that there are really only two kinds of autos. Those that have jammed and those that are going to jam. Larry

[diggler1833]

"Once bitten, twice shy" for me.

I'll own a gun that has had problems, and shoot it at the range for fun. However I'll never trust my life to it, ever.

I have too many other options that have never failed to function perfectly.

[wingriderz]

The kicker for me is I had shoped and researched like I do all my firearms and put my hands all around all makes and models of the 45 acp compact . The Springfield felt to me the way to go.It took me a loooong time to save up for this one . ( one thing back to back lol ) When I did get it . I went back the next week at bought a new M &P 40 C thats been a bout a year and half ago. So I would take bolth the 40 & 45 to range same time . I already told you the very rough 500 threw Springfield but The M & P has been flawless. The Xds does IWB. a bit easier. This is my very 1 st. 40. And for me I shoot it better than anyother caliber I have. 32,.380,.38,9mm. Go figure lol .

[Donn]

My 9mm M&P's, (FS, 9c, Shield), were money right out of the box. My Shield 45 is currently back at the factory. Intermittent FTF. Nothing man made is infallible.