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Old 05-25-2017, 09:03 PM
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Hey gang! I really like military surplus pistols. One of the hot imports right now is the Polish P64, made by Łucznik in Radom, Poland. It is a compact 9x18mm caliber pistol that was standard issue in the Polish Army from the mid 1960s until the mid 1980s. It is still used by the Polish military to a small extent, still existing in inventories, but has been mostly replaced by other handguns.

Well I decided to get one. Here it is:



Got this peach from Southern Ohio Gun (SOG) and for just over $250 including shipping I got the pistol, two magazines (one matching the gun's serial number) and a nice leather flap holster. Overall quality of the gun is excellent and it is like-new. The double action trigger is very stout which is characteristic of these guns. Wolff makes a spring kit for these to lighten the pull, but I'll keep mine stock for now. This is mainly a collector's piece for me. I've shot these before and they have some bite to them, not as pleasant to shoot as say a Makarov PM (of which I own four and enjoy shooting regularly).

I'm glad to finally have a P64! These are easy to find and inexpensive right now but as we all know with these surplus deals that won't last forever. You might want to read up on these and decide if you want one or not. One things for sure is the value will increase as time goes on, and like many other surplus handguns, it's just neat owning a "piece" of history.

Take care gang and have yourselves a GREAT Memorial Day weekend!

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Old 05-25-2017, 09:12 PM
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Had one when they were selling for $150. Nice little gun but heavy for it's size (not a bad thing, just an observation). Sold it a year or later.

The DA is incredibly stout. Something like 15lbs if not more. Also part of the reason I sold it. I'm not big on tinkering with guns I just want to shoot them

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Old 05-25-2017, 09:14 PM
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I had one for a little while. It was an excellent little shooter but surprisingly snappy. When I got it, the double action pull was almost impossible. I think it was about a twenty eight pound pull. Or at least it felt like it. From what I could figure out through some research, Poland had some sort of sub machine gun that shot the 9x18 cartridge and they were having issues with slam fires so they went to a harder primer. Then, after making that primer change the round would no longer reliably ignite in their P64's so they put a (much) heavier mainspring in the pistol to make it set off the harder primers. Or something along those lines. Anyhow, I did some more research and ended up changing out the recoil spring and the mainspring in mine and it greatly improved the trigger pull and really made it a nice shooter. I never had any ignition reliability issues with any of the ammunition I found for it here in the states.

Congratulations on your purchase.
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I checked out a few of those and they all had the most godawful DA trigger I had ever encountered. Much worse than my Makarovs. So I passed.
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The trigger pull is certainly a unique combination; it's got the heaviest DA pull I've ever felt, but the SA is among the lightest.

"Snappy"; well it's 9 Mak in a small package. That's something to consider when people go looking for subcompact 9x19's, something has to give with the small size and weight. Just my experience, the Hungarian PA 63 with the alloy frame is rougher, despite being a larger gun.

Yours looks nicer than the one I got from J&G, congrats
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Good guns, put a set of Wolf springs in it. Will make it night and day on double action trigger pull. Easy upgrade and totally worth it.
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Got a couple from AIM when they were first available. CCR
eligible. They were like new with holsters and extra mags.
Under $300.00 for both delivered to me.
Wolf springs lightened the SA and DA trigger pulls, and the
extra power firing pin ensures hard primer hits.
The "Grips 4 You" grips weren't cheap, but they fit and look
perfect, and really make the P-64 special.
I only have one left, and will be keeping it.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:20 AM
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Had one when they were selling for $150. Nice little gun but heavy for it's size (not a bad thing, just an observation). Sold it a year or later.

The DA is incredibly stout. Something like 15lbs if not more. Also part of the reason I sold it. I'm not big on tinkering with guns I just want to shoot them

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Your double-action trigger pull is lighter than my P-64 is. But,......the single action pull is dangerously light. It's not a gun that I would want to use as a carry piece.......
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That's a nice looking handgun! I think the only problem with it - and also with my CZ-83 - is they aren't drop safe. I know for sure the CZ-83 doesn't have a firing pin safety - which takes all the fun out of it (for me, anyway) as far as carrying it with ... yes, I'm going to say it ... a round in the chamber.
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A couple of years ago a local pawn shop I used to frequent someone must have unloaded all their Iron Curtain pistols. They had a P-64, a CZ 82, a 1895 Nagant, a Hungarian Tokarev and a Makarov. I purchases the P64 and the CZ 82 on the same day. The fit and finish of the P-64 is outstanding, but shooting it is a bit of a workout. I prefer shooting the CZ 82, which is a joy.

Plan on keeping both pistols though, as they will go up in price as time goes by.
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:38 PM
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Thanks gang. I will have to say, the gun isn't as fun to shoot as my Bulgarian Makarov. Still neat tho!
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But,......the single action pull is dangerously light.
The single action let off is actually in the middle of the trigger stroke, not at the end of the trigger take up like every other DA/SA automatic. It surprises a lot of people and takes some getting used to. It's an acquired taste.

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