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Old 06-17-2017, 02:23 PM
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I got this double barrel shotgun from my 92 yr old father in law and he has no idea what it is. It has no markings indicating the manufacturer, just the engraving shown each side. It is missing the firing caps which appear have to be threaded in. I've been unsuccessful doing research so thought I'd turn to you experts on this forum. Any ideas? Thanks!
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From what I can see I suspect it's Belgian. Untold thousands of these were imported by companies like Sears early in the 20th century and sold very cheaply in their catalog. Have you disassembled the gun and looked on the receiver flats or bottom of the barrels to see it there are any markings in those locations? If you can get a copy of an early Sears catalog you'll see page after page of them selling for as little as $5.00. The firing pin assemblies are pretty much universal and if you shop around you can find them. Hope this helps.
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I agree, Belgian made. It is funny it has no markings, there shold
at least be proof marks inside action and on bottom of barrel
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Pull the forend off and take the bbls off the action..
Check for marks on the bbl flats or ahead of the bbl flats on the tubes. Also any marks on the action flats or face of the breach. The latter usually small and centered either up high or low on the breach face are makers marks..

BBl and action flat Marks would include ser#, (foreign) proof marks, inspector marks, proof date codes (depending on the country/mfg) and sometimes letter initials that can indicate the gun maker, bbl tube supplier, ect. With that it's sometimes possible to narrow down the mfg period at least to an era or decade(s) if not the specific yr it was proofed.

Doesn't look like too bad of a shotgun,,steel bbls, decent wood, screws aren't all buggered up, dolls head with underlug lock up. hammer thumbpieces appear to be matching

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was Belgian but I looks a lot like a Husqvarna hammer gun but I would expect a Husqvarna to be marked as such.
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Good advice. I haven't taken it apart but will try to do so. I found it strange that the manufacturer didn't have its' name on it somewhere but it is not on the bottom of the barrels or on the side where you'd normally find one.
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Good advice. I haven't taken it apart but will try to do so. I found it strange that the manufacturer didn't have its' name on it somewhere but it is not on the bottom of the barrels or on the side where you'd normally find one.
Make sure you also look on the rib on the TOP of the barrels since this is a common location as well.
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I would guess this gun has wire twist barrels, how do we know it
has steel barrels? In the era of twist barrels a lot of makers got
barrels from companies that made nothing but barrels. When
smokeless came out some gun companies offered the same gun
with your choice of steel or twist barrels. Old timers were slow to
accept smokeless. The 1st Parker dbl. that I owned was a 16g
Hammerless. I traded a replica Muzzel loader for it. It was a nice
solid old gun. I didn't realize it was a Parker until I took it home
and was cleaning it. That is when I found the name on the rib.
I wasn't into Parkers but was smart enough to realize I lucked
into a gem. Typical meeting of two fools, guy didn't know what
he had and I didn't know either.
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Not that uncommon for a Belgian gun of that vintage to have no manufacturer's name.(a la Flobert rifles of that era) I'd look for typical Belgian proof marks,such as a little crown stamp,that looks like a little fish.
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