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Why would someone want to buy a BCG made by DD, which just claims that the bolt material is stated as "steel", and cost almost $200? The only reason I can see why someone would buy it is just to say,"I have a DD BCG!" WHOOPIE!!!!!!!!
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AR15 Toolcraft Black Nitride BCG - Monmouth USA

What would you rather, to be cool because you own a $200 BCG that has "DD" stamped on it, or a BCG that is made for the military, rifle companies, costs over $120 less than a DD BCG, etc.? It sure doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out!
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Most of the AR-15 snobs that only use THE best components will tell you the Palmetto State Armory Premium BCG is about as good as anything out there and they can be found on sale for about under a hundred bucks.
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Old 06-27-2017, 02:21 PM
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Most of the AR-15 snobs that only use THE best components will tell you the Palmetto State Armory Premium BCG is about as good as anything out there and they can be found on sale for about under a hundred bucks.
Snobs as in ...... Look at my AR! Or Snoobs as in...... I shoot 50k rounds a year and need something proven?

No they don't. Come on over and let them know. M4Carbine.net Forums

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Someone has a beef with DD....LOL!!!!

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Why would someone want to buy a BCG made by DD, which just claims that the bolt material is stated as "steel", and cost almost $200? The only reason I can see why someone would buy it is just to say,"I have a DD BCG!" WHOOPIE!!!!!!!!
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TOOLCRAFT makes theirs for the military, rifle companies, and ANY firearms dealer that wants to sell them. They are are made better than a DD, yet only cost $80!
AR15 Toolcraft Black Nitride BCG - Monmouth USA

What would you rather, to be cool because you own a $200 BCG that has "DD" stamped on it, or a BCG that is made for the military, rifle companies, costs over $120 less than a DD BCG, etc.? It sure doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out!

Toolcraft is ok. At any rate I am a fan of Bravo Company BCG's. Multiple thousands upon thousands of rounds with nary an issue. I'll gladly pay the 170 bucks. It's proven. And it's my money. It's a drop in the bucket compared to my yearly ammo bill.

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Most of the AR-15 snobs that only use THE best components will tell you the Palmetto State Armory Premium BCG is about as good as anything out there and they can be found on sale for about under a hundred bucks.
I usually buy the upper with the BCG from PSA. First chance I get, I lube it and run 5 mags rapid fire through them. So far, 3 out of 3 100% function. Joe
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Why would someone want to buy a BCG made by DD, which just claims that the bolt material is stated as "steel", and cost almost $200? The only reason I can see why someone would buy it is just to say,"I have a DD BCG!" WHOOPIE!!!!!!!!
Actually DD clearly states on their website...
Complete Bolt Carrier Group | Daniel Defense
Carrier:
Machined from 8620 steel
Heavy Phosphate Coated
Chrome lined
Properly staked gas keys
Made in the USA

Bolt:
Machined from Carpenter 158 Steel
High Pressure Tested
Magnetic Particle Inspected
Shot Peened
Heavy Phosphate Coated
Extractor Booster
Made in the USA

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Why would you say that DD only describes their bolt carrier group as just "steel"?

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Not quite sure what you're talking about -- DD bolt carrier groups meet milspec, are proven excellent and among the best in the business.

Why are you looking for specs at PA instead of at the source, DD's site?

Complete Bolt Carrier Group | Daniel Defense

The carrier's 8620 and the bolt's Carpenter 158.

Might want to do your homework before badmouthing a respected brand.
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...Why would you say that DD only describes their bolts as just "steel"?
Because he's only looking at a vendor's page...
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Shows ya how much I know about ARs. I had to read the thread to find out what a BCG is.
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Might want to do your homework before badmouthing a respected brand.
Good advice for the OP, especially before criticizing the purchase decisions of others.

The word ironic comes to mind.

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Not quite sure what you're talking about -- DD bolt carrier groups meet milspec, are proven excellent and among the best in the business.

Why are you looking for specs at PA instead of at the source, DD's site?

Complete Bolt Carrier Group | Daniel Defense

The carrier's 8620 and the bolt's Carpenter 158.

Might want to do your homework before badmouthing a respected brand.
RESPECTED? LMAO! Even looking at DD specs on their sight, and looking at TOOLCRAFTS specs, AND reputation, STILL, I don't need to be a FREAKN' rocket scientist to know that the TCBCG IS the BETTER deal here!
Those of you that have $200 to put out for a NAME on their BCG, I bet you're all members at ARIK'S posted website. Those members there are worse than Glock fanboys!
You can buy a BCG worth $5K, that's you! I'm merely stating that the TC BCG will do EVERYTHING that the DD will do, at a MUCH better savings. I mean, I'm not the only one here that likes to save money, am I? And, no, I have no beef against DD, but, I do know a better deal on a BCG when I see it.
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Good advice for the OP, especially before criticizing the purchase decisions of others.

The word ironic comes to mind.
ironic; happening in the opposite way to what is expected, and typically causing wry amusement because of this.
And, your point is?
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RESPECTED? LMAO! Even looking at DD specs on their sight, and looking at TOOLCRAFTS specs, AND reputation, STILL, I don't need to be a FREAKN' rocket scientist to know that the TCBCG IS the BETTER deal here!
Those of you that have $200 to put out for a NAME on their BCG, I bet you're all members at ARIK'S posted website. Those members there are worse than Glock fanboys!
You can buy a BCG worth $5K, that's you! I'm merely stating that the TC BCG will do EVERYTHING that the DD will do, at a MUCH better savings. I mean, I'm not the only one here that likes to save money, am I? And, no, I have no beef against DD, but, I do know a better deal on a BCG when I see it.
Since you had absolutely no idea what you were looking at to begin with, I reckon we can get along without your expertise on DD bolt carrier groups and this thread before it becomes even more argumentative.
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