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Old 07-07-2017, 03:49 PM
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Would like to see some pics of Contender rifles and the calibers you shoot. What is the length of pull on your rifle also. Are they for hunting or just shooting. Any MGM's or Bullbery and your opinion, accurate???

My frame is mainly for indoor offhand shooting with barrels in 32 mag, 38 special and 22 LR at 50 ft. Thinking of going into the rifle side of the gun. Thanks, Larry
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A friend use an Encore rifle in 50 Cal Muzzle loader & 45-70 to hunt Ohio White Tail Deer. Both barrels are more accurate than the shooter! I have given him some of my target 45-70 ammo for practice and the Encore shoots Sub-MOA groups just like my Brownings.

I have 2 Contender actions and about 15, 10 to 14 inch barrels. I would love to rifle stock some of them but the legalities hold me back!

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my contender carbine has a 21" tapered 22 Hornet barrel w/Leupold 2x7 and 21" MGM 357 magnum carbine barrel w/ K3 Weaver. Looking for carbine barrels.....Mike
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Larry,
I have both the rifle and pistol barrels for my Encore frame. Sold off the Contender when I was downsizing. Standard T/C composite stock on the rifle , wood on the pistol. I had my barrels made by the T/C Custom Shop before it burnt down. (7.62x39mm- .308 bore, .30-06 and 7-30 Waters) They were all in the 22" length and were average shooters. I use the Waters for deer hunting, thus no fancy wood stock on the rifle.

Fast forward to a couple years ago. I sent all three to Bullberry Barrels for a chop to 17 inches, crown and installation of their fore end hanger system. The hanger system is supposed to take fore end pressure off of the barrel, enhancing accuracy. All three of the barrels are now outstanding shooters. I don't know if it was the fore end hanger system, the chop and crown or a combination of both. I believe the shorter barrels are stiffer and thus have better harmonics. Note: the fore end hanger system does require a modified fore end if using the OEM composite. Bullberry sells those for similar cost as the regular fore end. If going with a wood stock setup it will be made to accommodate the hanger.

Bullberry is a quality shop with good people. If you decide to use them, have no worries.

Below are pics of the rifle, the barrel hanger system and a target I shot with my 7.62x39mm barrel. One hole 5 shot group at 100 yards measuring .690 inches. 125 gr Sierra PSP over 24.5 grains of IMR4198. The one shot in the center of the red marker is after a sight change. Had the scope on my Waters barrel and was changing zero.

I like the versatility of the single shots and recommend using both rifle and pistol setup.
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There was a 21" MGM 357 barrel on eBay that ended today, not sure what the end price was. It would have been close to a new one.

Klyde, nice groups. I remember when you shortened the bbls. You had a 44 mag bbl, right? How it shoot?

What is the measurement on a Contender carbine from the trigger to the end of the stock. I have a rifle stock that seems short from eBay. Been thinking of a barrel in .327 since I have all the components here. Larry
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LOP on my rifle stock is 14 1/2". That is the OEM stock I bought years ago. I had to buy the modified fore end for the Bullberry hanger when I had the barrels done. I like a short LOP and would go 14" or 13 1/2" if they made them. I don't know if there is a length selection in the composite stocks. Wasn't back then but might be something aftermarket now.

The 10" Bullberry .44 Mag has only been out once (too many guns and not enough time) with a box of .44 Spl 200 gr. XTP handloads. Shot very nice but I want to try a heavier bullet. Some playing around load development is definitely in order. About a year and a half until retirement. Then I can get down to business.

327 Federal would probably be a sweet chambering in a nice short heavy barrel.

On a side note. I don't know if the rifle fore ends for the Encore and Contender are the same. If they are and you need a composite fore end I think I still have my old one. You can have it if needed. Let me know.

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Old 07-09-2017, 05:31 PM
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I don't have any pics handy but in my safe, I have a SS Contender with a 16.25in .45/70 barrel on it. When I bought the carbine, the dealer had swapped a 16.25in .223 barrel in place of the original 21in .30-30, so I decided to stay with the stubby look when I bought the .45/70 barrel. I haven't shot the .223 in a number of years but did take out the .45/70 last year to let a few round through it. Nice little carbine but doesn't accomplish anything that my M1895 GG can't.
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The 21" 357 MGM bbl went high, would rather have one around 16.5" to 18". Need an octagon forend for a 10" bbl, anyone have one??? Larry
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Any other Contender carbine owners, very popular gun. Larry
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I have a stainless Contender rifle I put together a few years ago, it has a 24" full bull barrel from the TC custom shop in .223 rem [1 in 9" I think], it has the Choate stock and forend. The stock has a removable buttplate so you can store stuff it in it, I just have a cheap silver BSA scope on it for now until I can afford some thing better. It shoots 1"-1 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100yds all day long if you do your part.
I also have a 15" Bullberry barrel in 6.5mm x 30 which is 30-30 necked down to 6.5mm, it is a very accurate barrel, I have thought having it lengthened to 16 1/2" by some means [welded flash hider or break and make a rifle out of it.

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just ordered a salt and pepper laminated carbine stock for mine from Boyd's.....Mike
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I also have a semi-inleted walnut thumb hole stock and fore end I bought from Fox Ridge outfitters 10 years ago, I guess I need to do something with it one of these days.
I have a Super 14 barrel in .44 mag That I want to ream out to .444 Marlin, if I have a brake installed to make it 16 1/4" that would make one hell of a carbine! I have the reamer, hmmm

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went to the range today with my Contender carbine and two barrels, both had scope changes so needed sighting in. My 21" MGM 357 magnum barrel with 158 gr XTP over 16 grs 296 shot this 3/4" 3 shot group at 100 yds
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That's some nice shooting at 100 yds. I'd be proud of that group. Did you get the stock from Boyd's?? Show us a picture.

Last week I took a friend to the club 80 miles away. Took the Marlin .357 lever action and had fun trying to be a cowboy. Also took the Martini Cadet converted to .357 with an octagon bbl. It retains the .310 sights which is hard on old eyes. Still had fun with it and it started to become one of my favorite rifles. Who ever converted it did a nice job restocking it. A scope would help.

Having a short fat stubby bbl built in .327 would be nice. Have all the reloading components for it. Larry
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Very happy with that group. I started out with the synthetic(Rynite) TC stock,added a Blackhawk nylon cheek riser and just recently tried to upgrade to a Boyds Salt and pepper lam stock. Mounted the new stock, handled it a bit, then took it back off and put it back in the box. Heavier, longer LOP, fatter in the wrist...i just didn't like it. Traded it off for a scope. I'm back to the rynite and will stay there. I did a krylon camo paint job on the Rynite with three different colors of krylon and a piece of a natural sponge.....Mike
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here's a lousy pic of the gun
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Heck Zoner, that came out nice. You should go into business painting stocks. What's the length of pull on that gun? Larry
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that stock the LOP is 13 1/2"....as far as gun fit goes it's a little short for me(i'm 6'2") but i prefer it that way. After all it is a little carbine.....
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Got into the T/C's back in the late 80's. Only have 1 carbine, and it's one that I put together. Rynite furniture, Super 16 barrel in 7-30, and it wears a
2x7 Leupold Vari-X 1. Haven't had it out in close to 30yrs, so need to get it out. I've got one other 7-30 Contender, and it's one most haven't seen. It's an Armour Alloy that I got through TCA when T/C discontinued the finish.
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Here's a setup that I whittled outta walnut.
Saw this design years ago and it never left my dreams until I cobbled together my own. Shown here with SS 23" .204 Ruger and 8-32X40 scope
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A tribute to Lee Jurras. carved his logo in the nose of the forearm (inset)
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Three contenders with carbine barrels in 7-30 Waters, 223 and a stubbed barrel wildcat 30x38 special. The other frames get used for the 5 pistol barrels.
Two Encore rifle frames with barrels in 243, 7mm 08, 7 Rem magnum and 300 Winchester. All are used for hunting and general shooting. I have been pictureless since a photobucket policy change.
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The 30x38 sounds like a neat round, any data on ballistics? What a shame on photo bucket, sure there are some nice pics being held hostage. I still haven't decided on a bbl yet. Watch eBay abt every 5 days and look at the adds out to abt 8-10 days. Don't want to duplicate a Caliber I already have and an outdoor range is too far away to use so I need an indoor round. No hurry, Larry

Any other length of pull measurements? The stock I bought is at 13" but nicely figured.
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The 30 Badger is a efficient small game and paper puncher that is accurate with 2 gr of powder up to barn burner with 7 grains. It is within a 0.1 grain of 32-20 capacity in a case that is stronger and easier to find.
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