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New toy-A Ciener .22 unit
I like .22 handguns. I ran across a Ciener unit for a Colt 1911 and bought it, hoping it would work on my Colt LW Commander. I did have to remove my extractor. I fired it twice into a wood post to see if it worked. Tomorrow I will take it to the range.
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Mine stays on my Colt 1991A1. I find it to be very accurate. It doesn't run well with lead bullets, so I stick with the plated ones.
Enjoy!
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Did you have to remove your extractor?
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All I have heard about the Ciener is that they tend to be finicky about ammunition. I have an EAA .22 conversion unit, and it sure is. Wont handle either Federal or Remington bulk pack, but OK with the high-priced stuff.
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I have a Advantage Arms conversion kit for Glock 29/30 models. It worked so well on my Glock 29 that I bought a Glock 30 frame and put it together as a dedicated pistol.
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I was fortunate enough to buy a Colt 45/22 unit years ago with the floating chamber. No problem except for dirty ammo. Works great. I also have a Ciener for 1911 which is more finicky. I also have one for Glock which I consider poorly functional.
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I'd really like to have a genuine Colt .22 conversion unit, but for the prices being asked, I'd be much better off buying a new .22 autopistol like a Ruger Mk IV or the S&W Victory .22. Or maybe a used Hi-Standard or Colt Woodsman. I have a Chiappa .22 M1911 alloy replica that I bought very cheaply. It's worth about what I paid for it. No real complaints about the quality of gun itself, except it shoots the poorest groups and has the heaviest trigger pull I have ever experienced with any .22 handgun, and there is not much I can do to improve either.
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I have had two different Ciener's, and a Marvel, and while they work, but very finicky on ammo, (and don't bother trying standard velocity) non of them will hold up to the accuracy and reliability of many good quality 22 target grade pistols. High Standard, S&W, Colt, even Ruger & Browning make excellent pistols, and there are thousands on the used market.
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I did not. Slipped right on.
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I have a Colt Conversion Unit that I bought with my Series 70 Gold Cup when I bought it 10 years ago. Got the whole setup for $1100 back then, which I thought was a good deal. Have had a Kimber upper and did not find it any better than the Colt.
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I never see Cieners advertised any more. I vaguely remember they had financial difficulty.
I bought an original Bob Marvel 22 conversion kit for a 1911-style pistol on this forum. It is mounted on a Kimber lower that a gunsmith lowered the trigger pull to less than 2#. I did not like a trigger that low for action shooting but it is great for the Marvel. Bob Marvel stopped making his conversion units many years ago and the rights to do so have traveled a bit. I can say my Marvel is the most accurate 22 I have ever owned.
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So I shot these two conversion pistols today
I had five different brands of .22 LR ammo to try. I took the Glock/AA and Colt/Ciener pistols. The Ciener booklet suggested Remington Golden 40 grain solid ammo. I did well with CCI and Remington. It did not like Blazer, Winchester or Federal ammo.
The Glock/AA was a lot less picky on ammo. I enjoyed shooting both pistols. The Colt/Ciener performed well enough that I believe I will get a dedicated frame for it.
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About 15 years ago, I found a Ciener Platinum Cup unit on close out at a very good price. I liked it so much that I built up a frame to mount it on permanently. Mine will shoot just about any ammo and does it quite well too.
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