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Old 08-13-2017, 12:35 AM
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Bought it about a month ago. Best striker fired gun I own.
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Careful not to drop it. 🙂🙃🙂🙃
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:10 AM
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I had a friend who got a really good deal on one of those pistols. I slapped him on the back to congratulate him and they both went off....
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:56 AM
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I had a friend who got a really good deal on one of those pistols. I slapped him on the back to congratulate him and they both went off....
Wow! That's funny!!! Good job!
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I still want one. Sig is taking care of the issue at hand.
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I also still want one - and won't have the dinero until the whole Drop-gate thing is sorted out anyway. Once you get an FCU (as you all know) - you can mix and match uppers and the grip frames are like $40. I have a P250 and really like the modularity. That said, now is the time to buy one on the local trading site - people are trying to dump them left and right.
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Yup I was gonna buy the compact and then buy the sub compact grip for carrying. Yes the slide over hangs the end but it looks cool.

But that's not until I get my 627 pro.

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Old 08-13-2017, 03:28 PM
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Bought it about a month ago. Best striker-fired gun I own.
Which raises the question... what other striker-fired pistols do you own if this is the very best one? And I hope it's still your very best one after it comes back from the "voluntary upgrade" Sig has now been forced into.

All jokes and kidding aside, I've just never been impressed by it right from Day 1... but folks I respect still say it is the best thing since sliced bread and beer in bottles, so what do I know?

I'm just glad I don't own one as I hate recalls even when they call it something else. .
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I shot one 2 weeks ago the guy next to me had one. I liked it I thought it had a nice trigger & was soft shooting. I let him shoot my dan Wesson valor 45 & he shot it better than his sig funny huh? We both laughed at that. I would consider one of those if I could only get over the plastic frame gun aversion thing I have.
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Old 08-18-2017, 09:03 AM
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Don't forget that Caracal had a lot of recalls on different models but we also know nearly every gunmaker has had some type of recall or voluntary whatever. Some more dangerous than others.
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Don't forget that Caracal had a lot of recalls on different models but we also know nearly every gunmaker has had some type of recall or voluntary whatever. Some more dangerous than others.
And that's percisely why I think it prudent to wait at least a couple of years before buying any new firearm model. The Sig P320 shows a lot of promise, but it remains an unproven weapon from my perspective.
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The best way to render a device fool-proof is to put it in the hands of fools, wait and watch. Their ability to ferret out flaws is legendary.

A few years back, Springfield recalled XDs compact pistols for a potential ND problem. If you racked the slide without depressing the grip safety, pulled and released the trigger, the gun might discharge when the grip safety was depressed. Mine was one of those recalled.

It takes a bit of dexterity to operate it in this way. The recoil spring is very stiff, and to rack without depressing the grip safety means you hold the frame with your finger tips, or with a thumb through the trigger guard. DUH! It took me half an hour to duplicate the problem with an empty pistol.

You can't rack the slide on a Springfield XDm2 without using the grip safety. Problem solved!

I think SIG has it figured out too, thanks to early purchasers.
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I was in a LGS Thursday afternoon when a guy walked in with the desire to trade a Sig P320c .357 Sig toward a Glock 17 or 19. The salesman politely informed the customer the shop had to pull their remaining stock of P320 pistols and would not accept any in trade at this time. The customer was livid.

I offered him $200.00; pointing out that was slightly less than half his cost according to the receipt, but more than the store would of offered him as trade. He flipped out on me, even as the salesman agreed with me. I pulled four $50.00 bills out of my wallet and made the offer a final time.

That guy told me where I could stick my cash, so I placed it back in my wallet and pointed out he had one chance to be rid of the P320 and blew it.
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I was in a LGS Thursday afternoon when a guy walked in with the desire to trade a Sig P320c .357 Sig toward a Glock 17 or 19. The salesman politely informed the customer the shop had to pull their remaining stock of P320 pistols and would not accept any in trade at this time. The customer was livid.

I offered him $200.00; pointing out that was slightly less than half his cost according to the receipt, but more than the store would of offered him as trade. He flipped out on me, even as the salesman agreed with me. I pulled four $50.00 bills out of my wallet and made the offer a final time.

That guy told me where I could stick my cash, so I placed it back in my wallet and pointed out he had one chance to be rid of the P320 and blew it.
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I was in a LGS Thursday afternoon when a guy walked in with the desire to trade a Sig P320c .357 Sig toward a Glock 17 or 19. The salesman politely informed the customer the shop had to pull their remaining stock of P320 pistols and would not accept any in trade at this time. The customer was livid.

I offered him $200.00; pointing out that was slightly less than half his cost according to the receipt, but more than the store would of offered him as trade. He flipped out on me, even as the salesman agreed with me. I pulled four $50.00 bills out of my wallet and made the offer a final time.

That guy told me where I could stick my cash, so I placed it back in my wallet and pointed out he had one chance to be rid of the P320 and blew it.
I wouldn't have taken your $200. I will have also told you to piss off because if he send his gun into Sig and they do the voluntary upgrade he can turn around and sell it for $350-$400 depending on condition, version and what else comes with it.

There are tons of people who are not fretting about this in the least. I certainly am not. I have a P320 in 45 and it will go and get fixed by Sig when my number comes up and I will get the pistol back and go from there. I might keep it I might sell it but I can guarantee if I sold it I am going to get more than $200 for it.
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I was in a LGS Thursday afternoon when a guy walked in with the desire to trade a Sig P320c .357 Sig toward a Glock 17 or 19. The salesman politely informed the customer the shop had to pull their remaining stock of P320 pistols and would not accept any in trade at this time. The customer was livid.

I offered him $200.00; pointing out that was slightly less than half his cost according to the receipt, but more than the store would of offered him as trade. He flipped out on me, even as the salesman agreed with me. I pulled four $50.00 bills out of my wallet and made the offer a final time.

That guy told me where I could stick my cash, so I placed it back in my wallet and pointed out he had one chance to be rid of the P320 and blew it.
Sounds like the kind of guy who panic buys a Prius at $5k over MSRP just because gas went up 25c/gallon. Defines "fool" perfectly.
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I wouldn't have taken your $200. I will have also told you to piss off because if he send his gun into Sig and they do the voluntary upgrade he can turn around and sell it for $350-$400 depending on condition, version and what else comes with it.

There are tons of people who are not fretting about this in the least. I certainly am not. I have a P320 in 45 and it will go and get fixed by Sig when my number comes up and I will get the pistol back and go from there. I might keep it I might sell it but I can guarantee if I sold it I am going to get more than $200 for it.
Did you catch the "he was livid" line?

This customer was a LEO in the process of switching jobs. He could not carry a Sig P320, nor a .357 Sig. He stated he needed a different gun. That shop was not a Glock Blue Line dealer so all Glocks are retail price. He did not have $550.00+ to lay out for a new handgun.

I paid $323.00 and $300.00 each for my used Sig P250sc pistols. The .40 S&W had night sights and a total of five mags. I would be buying a pistol deemed unsafe to carry and use, expecting to be without it for well over a week at some point. I am sure Sig will make the necessary changes to every P320 out there. When? How quickly will your gun be returned to you?

I was taking a risk and offering to do him a favor...he didn't see it that way.
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Did you catch the "he was livid" line?

This customer was a LEO in the process of switching jobs. He could not carry a Sig P320, nor a .357 Sig. He stated he needed a different gun. That shop was not a Glock Blue Line dealer so all Glocks are retail price. He did not have $550.00+ to lay out for a new handgun.

I paid $323.00 and $300.00 each for my used Sig P250sc pistols. The .40 S&W had night sights and a total of five mags. I would be buying a pistol deemed unsafe to carry and use, expecting to be without it for well over a week at some point. I am sure Sig will make the necessary changes to every P320 out there. When? How quickly will your gun be returned to you?

I was taking a risk and offering to do him a favor...he didn't see it that way.
The P250 sold for $325-$375 NIB before being discontinued so you got a decent deal on your used ones when you factor in the mags.

Sig has stated that it will be 4-6 weeks to fix the pistols. For me it is a non-issue because it not a primary gun in any way for me. It will get fixed eventually until then I won't be shooting it. I will have to stick with the P220 or the 1911s if I want to shoot 45 ACP.

I understand that you believe you were "helping" the guy out but if you were really helping him out you should have directed him the the local "blue" Glock dealer told him to finance it another way. if a NIB Glock is $550 in your area pointing him towards any number of online dealers would have been a better option IMHO. You can still get Gen 3 Glock 17s and 19s OTD for $450-$75 depending on what you pay for transfers. Some online dealers even offer credit. Even a credit card with 18% interest would be a better deal for the seller than the $200 cash you were offering him.

IMHO but I can see where you thought buying his $500 pistol for $200 was helping him out. I would have bought it for $200 if it was 9mm, have no use for .357 Sig, but would be realistic that I was really helping myself more than the guy selling the P320.
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This started out as a great thread. Now it has turned into a slam thread on the 320. The mods had to close 1 thread like that before, now you are starting again! Don't you people ever learn? And to think, you're gun owners! SMH!
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This started out as a great thread. Now it has turned into a slam thread on the 320. The mods had to close 1 thread like that before, now you are starting again! Don't you people ever learn? And to think, you're gun owners! SMH!
I don't see a lot of P320 slamming here. The reality is that the gun needs to be sent back for an upgrade. None of us know how that is going to effect the trigger yet. The biggest selling points of the gun are the trigger and the modularity of the platform.

The gun like too many Sigs recently was not ready for prime time before it was released to the public. At least Sig is fixing it. Time will tell us if the changes effect the pistol.

I am taking a wait and see attitude on this one.
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This started out as a great thread. Now it has turned into a slam thread on the 320. The mods had to close 1 thread like that before, now you are starting again! Don't you people ever learn? And to think, you're gun owners! SMH!
You know if a thread disturbs you then you have the option of not looking at it. This thread is not knocking the Sig P320, but honestly discussing the model, which has a significant problem. The OP praised the P320 as the best striker fired pistol he owns.

I shot a FS, and liked it a good bit too. However I prefer a compact. The gun I mentioned was a compact .357 Sig, I don't need it as I have a Sig P239, Glock 31 & 32 in the caliber. I just wanted to try one out.

The unhappy customer had hit every shop in the area with the same response. I was the only person who even made him an offer on his P320. The shop contacted me today and told me he would take the deal if I were still willing. I am not, as we are out of town for Monday's solar eclipse. I had time to reconsider.
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You know if a thread disturbs you then you have the option of not looking at it. This thread is not knocking the Sig P320, but honestly discussing the model, which has a significant problem. The OP praised the P320 as the best striker fired pistol he owns.

I shot a FS, and liked it a good bit too. However I prefer a compact. The gun I mentioned was a compact .357 Sig, I don't need it as I have a Sig P239, Glock 31 & 32 in the caliber. I just wanted to try one out.

The unhappy customer had hit every shop in the area with the same response. I was the only person who even made him an offer on his P320. The shop contacted me today and told me he would take the deal if I were still willing. I am not, as we are out of town for Monday's solar eclipse. I had time to reconsider.
Well then, they say the Glock is "supposed to be" the best striker fire gun, but IMO, it's NOT! I would prefer a faulty SIG320 over it ANY DAY!
And, the last part of your "story", I think I would see a Unicorn before I would believe that!
If this response bothers you, then you don't have to reply to it.
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Have the dude contact me. I will give him $200 for it.
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I am not bothered at all. A Sig P320c would interest me because I have two sc grip modules I could swap it into for a more compact carry gun. The trigger is good on the 320, but will the upgrade change that? It is a big risk.

I did offer to do that $200.00 deal on Wednesday when I get back home, but the customer said no to that.
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Does anyone know the process in which SIG is doing the recall? Is it a new trigger, or a certain part of the trigger that is being replaced?
Me and a few gun buddies went to an indoor range Saturday night. I rented the SIG320 compact. That, IMO, is one smooth shooting gun! I LIKE IT!
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Me and a few gun buddies went to an indoor range Saturday night. I rented the SIG320 compact. That, IMO, is one smooth shooting gun! I LIKE IT!
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SIG SAUER is offering a voluntary upgrade program for all P320 pistols that enhances function, reliability, and overall safety including drop performance. This will include an alternate design that reduces the physical weight of the trigger, sear, and striker while additionally adding a mechanical disconnector. All P320 pistol owners are eligible. Sign up online and get your P320 upgraded at no cost to you. Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge.

There is also talk of changes to the slide and frame but this is not confirmed.
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There is a LE supply shop near my home. This shop recently sold 300+ Sig P320 pistols to two different metro Atlanta LE agencies. As of last week, there was still no word of how and when those handguns would be upgraded.

The P320 got popular real fast. The Tac-Ops models flew off the shelves around home. The colored grip modules and certain magazines were already difficult to find. This recovery is going to take a while.

I like Sigs, own nine of them. A $200.00 offer was fair on a defective firearm.



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SIG SAUER is offering a voluntary upgrade program for all P320 pistols that enhances function, reliability, and overall safety including drop performance. This will include an alternate design that reduces the physical weight of the trigger, sear, and striker while additionally adding a mechanical disconnector. All P320 pistol owners are eligible. Sign up online and get your P320 upgraded at no cost to you. Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge.

There is also talk of changes to the slide and frame but this is not confirmed.
Thank you Sir.
Like the one gunsmith stated, this is something you CAN'T do at home with a Dremel! There will be some 320 owners wanting to do the upgrade at home. NO! Send the firearm in to SIG!
One thing I was curious to know that they didn't state; Will the upgrade effect the trigger pull weight?
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I like Sigs, own nine of them. A $200.00 offer was fair on a defective firearm.
If you think that you were doing him a solid there is no need to keep bringing it up.

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Thank you Sir.
Like the one gunsmith stated, this is something you CAN'T do at home with a Dremel! There will be some 320 owners wanting to do the upgrade at home. NO! Send the firearm in to SIG!
One thing I was curious to know that they didn't state; Will the upgrade effect the trigger pull weight?
If I had to guess the trigger will have a different feel. They say the double click will be gone and there will be a physical disconnector. With more physical contact points in a trigger I cannot see how it will not feel different.

I believe that on paper they will do everything they can to keep the published spec in terms of lbs the same as before but until we get upgraded guns in our hands we will not know if the trigger feels different.
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Will the upgrade effect the trigger pull weight?
I have not seen a single response to this very important question. If the FCU is taken apart and re-worked, I imagine trigger pull will vary from gun to gun.
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I have not seen a single response to this very important question. If the FCU is taken apart and re-worked, I imagine trigger pull will vary from gun to gun.
Sig said the trigger pull weight won't be affected.
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Sig has addresses the trigger pull question in the upgrade FAQ.

P320 Voluntary Upgrade Program | Sig Sauer

It's kinda shy on engineering/logistics details, but pretty much in line with most consumer product action.

I'd suggest people with questions actually read the whole FAQ.
It seems to be getting longer, with better information as time goes by. I'd fully expect it to continue to get longer and more detailed in the future.
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Over on youtube the Guntruth video the guy says the trigger is actually better than the original.

You can't do the upgrade yourself. The slide and the frame have to be milled for the new FCU to fit. Per Sig.
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Over on youtube the Guntruth video the guy says the trigger is actually better than the original.

You can't do the upgrade yourself. The slide and the frame have to be milled for the new FCU to fit. Per Sig.
The frame is no longer mentioned on the FAQ. It was earlier, I read it myself. Now it only mentions the slide, and any slides you already own. No frames as of now. That obviously can change, as it all can. It's probably going to stay pretty fluid for a while until Sig actually gets things set-up t do this.

It's one of the reasons to go back and read the FAQ often, as there's been some other changes in wording here and there as details get worked out.
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Did you catch the "he was livid" line?

This customer was a LEO in the process of switching jobs. He could not carry a Sig P320, nor a .357 Sig. He stated he needed a different gun. That shop was not a Glock Blue Line dealer so all Glocks are retail price. He did not have $550.00+ to lay out for a new handgun.

I paid $323.00 and $300.00 each for my used Sig P250sc pistols. The .40 S&W had night sights and a total of five mags. I would be buying a pistol deemed unsafe to carry and use, expecting to be without it for well over a week at some point. I am sure Sig will make the necessary changes to every P320 out there. When? How quickly will your gun be returned to you?

I was taking a risk and offering to do him a favor...he didn't see it that way.
The more you write about this, the worse it sounds. For starters, attempting to make a deal in a gun shop isn't kosher IMHO. Secondly, the customer was a LEO and needed a different handgun for his job, but didn't have the money. I don't understand folks who take advantage (or attempt to take advantage) of a person in times of need and want. There is a member of our club who just can't wait to make a visit on a widow of a member of the gun club. Luckily, I don't want nor need to sell my P320C. It is my first and only Sig. It is my favorite 9mm semi-auto to date. We'll have to see if the trigger mods detract from the trigger pull. I'm not thrilled about the mods, but as it isn't my "go to" pistol, I'm not in a big hurry to send it in.
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Yep, and I recall people saying any issue with the 320 was a lie. Now, milling slides and what not......hmmmm
Actually other gun companies have denied problems until all the facts came in. Some then continued to deny problems. You do have to admit, that this "issue" only appeared after a certain specific set of parameters were met. Obviously there are problems in the testing protocol being used by the military and firearm manufacturers. After all the tests were conducted on the Sig 320 for the military, it probably was shocking that an "issue" was raised. No doubt, highly paid corporate attorneys got a lot of input, as well. On the other hand, if Sig did know about this specific "issue" a long time ago, then they definitely should be taken to task for hiding the fact.
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Actually other gun companies have denied problems until all the facts came in. Some then continued to deny problems. You do have to admit, that this "issue" only appeared after a certain specific set of parameters were met. Obviously there are problems in the testing protocol being used by the military and firearm manufacturers. After all the tests were conducted on the Sig 320 for the military, it probably was shocking that an "issue" was raised. No doubt, highly paid corporate attorneys got a lot of input, as well. On the other hand, if Sig did know about this specific "issue" a long time ago, then they definitely should be taken to task for hiding the fact.
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For starters, attempting to make a deal in a gun shop isn't kosher IMHO. .
Why not? They aren't selling any so you're not taking away their business. And there's nothing illegal about it.





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The salesman politely informed the customer the shop had to pull their remaining stock of P320 pistols and would not accept any in trade at this time.

I offered him $200.00; .


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That does make a difference IMHO, but even so, I still think it is a good practice to do the deal elsewhere, off the premises.
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Thank you. I reread it to make sure that I didn't miss something the first time. I did not.
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That does make a difference IMHO, but even so, I still think it is a good practice to do the deal elsewhere, off the premises.
Also, gotta know your laws. I don't know what it's like in ATL, where this happened but in MY state ....no HANDGUN sales without a FFL. Me and you can agree on price of a handgun but doing a face to face trade is a felony. Long guns are ok though.

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That does make a difference IMHO, but even so, I still think it is a good practice to do the deal elsewhere, off the premises.

The clerk pointed to me, across the floor sifting through a box of used mags. Had he taken my offer, the Sig P320 would of gone through the stores books. Five of my nine Sigs were purchased from that shop, the sales guy knows I am a fan.
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I'm real skeptical about their supposed turnaround time on this recall. They say 4-6 weeks once the gun gets to them. I sent them a recalled bolt group on a MCX rifle a while back. They were saying 7 seven business days on that turnaround. Turned out I didn't see it for nearly 2 months and even then I had to call them and get firm on the phone. I have a 320 Compact that I like fine. I think I'll just keep it as-is, thanks.
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I'm real skeptical about their supposed turnaround time on this recall. They say 4-6 weeks once the gun gets to them. I sent them a recalled bolt group on a MCX rifle a while back. They were saying 7 seven business days on that turnaround. Turned out I didn't see it for nearly 2 months and even then I had to call them and get firm on the phone. I have a 320 Compact that I like fine. I think I'll just keep it as-is, thanks.
Yep, it's probably going to be some time. I think I read where they were actually waiting on the parts to do the upgrades. That would push the waiting time of 6 weeks back some. One positive note is if they have been doing the mods to the military M-17's then they probably have a system set up.
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