I've either owned, been issued, and/or shot every generation of GLOCK. None have ever jammed, failed to feed or given me any other trouble. I see the merits in the changes with the Gen 5 but don't feel the need to update myself. I currently own a Gen 3 Model 27 and a Gen 4 Model 22. My disposable money these days, however, goes toward older S&W revolvers. And my current EDC is a Shield .40 S&W.

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I'vee never even shot a Glock!

20 - 25 years ago I'd have told you you're crazy and you should shoot one because it's one of the best and only polymer framed striker fired pistols out there with a decent trigger.

Fast forward to today, and you're really not missing much. I am neither a rabid fan nor rabid detractor of Glock pistols. I own three. The low parts count design leads to reliability, which in turn made the Glock the "AK" of handguns. While this is good, it's made Glock lazy. They've been riding that reputation since the 1990's, and really haven't bothered to innovate. Lately it seems that they don't even bother to pay attention to the details. I've seen a Glock 19 Gen5 at the small LGS yesterday. Unlike the bigger privately owned gun store, the small LGS owner lets me take my time and really look over the gun.

• Slide bevel is nice, but the frame isn't correspondingly beveled.
• The magwell flare is nice, but the front of grip cutout has edges that need to be smoothed. Looks like they literally punched the cutout out.
• The frame cut out for the ambi slide stop on the ejection port side of the frame looks like someone literally cut it out. Hold two Gen5's and the cutout is slightly different between the two.
• The stock rear sight was not installed all the way. It needs to be pushed more to the non-ejection port side. Seriously. Sights are off out of the box.
• I'm not sold on the advantage of the traditional lands and groove barrel over the polygonal rifled barrel.
• The pig nose is still there.

The Gen5 pistol feels better in hand than the Gen4. I'm sure it gets the job done. I'm being nit-picky, but given that Glock has more competition than back in the 90's there are more choices out there and attention to small details makes the difference. Line up a H&K VP9, Sig P320, Walther PPQ, S&W M&P 2.0, and a Gen5 Glock, I'd be hard pressed to pick the Glock based on the small details.

I'm sticking to my original opinion. I'm not paying for the privilege to be a first production run guinea pig. I'll look at it again in another couple years.

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When the Gen 5, G-26 comes out, I will buy one. Only the G-17 and G-19 are offered so far.

I like the no finger grooves on the gen 5.

I didn't notice any of that except for the rear sight. I saw a review of the gen 5 (Mr. Gunsandgear) and he mentioned his rear sight was off. At the store I handled two and they were both off. Now reading your initial impression and it seems that the rear sight is an issue

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That's one of the first things that caught my eye. Not sure why but it kind of bothers me.

I'm a big Glock guy and believe that some of the newer features are beneficial, however the ambi slide release kills it for me. An extra lever that I don't need, would love one without it.

I've seen prices between $560 - $600 for Gen5's equipped with the polymer dot & bucket sights. For me, that's not chump change.

I suspect that the rear sights are installed on a jig. Was the jig not calibrated properly? Was the assembler not trained properly? Was there production unit output goals for initial release that took priority over final QC?

Again, I'm nit picking. The frame being beveled not having the slide correspondingly beveled isn't going to impede function. To me it signals a lack of attention to detail or Glock's assumption that the end consumer wouldn't notice. The presence of the Glock "Pig Nose" is annoying too. After all these years, you'd think they'd figure out how to keep it from occurring.

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Doesn't bother me one bit. Think of it this way. I'm a lefty and have a unless slide release on a Gen 1, 2 and 3 that I don't want or need and yet it hasn't caused one bit of trouble

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It's weird. You'd think by now they can adequately install a rear sight. I don't see what has changed in that respect

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I saw a M19 Gen5 yesterday at my LGS. It was nice feeling in the hand and I liked the bevels on the nose of the slide and the lack of finger grooves. Did I buy it- no.

I rely on several Glocks for home, truck and office defense. I sometimes carry a 2005 G23 in OD green. Most of the time I carry a M&P .357 revolver and forget that it is there it being so light.

The great thing about a Glock, in the role of self defense, is that if it is stolen, damaged or confiscated I can go buy another just like it. Not true with my prized Gen 3 autos or pre-lock K,L and N frames.

They are just a tool, not a pistol to buy into due to the hype of the Glock marketing firm. By the way, in my humble opinion they are a reliable and effective defense pistol.

Handled one today. I like it. But not enough to give up my gen 4.

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Ruger did it the LCR. Not my cup.of tea but a successful design in its own right.

Glocks are the Bic pens of the handgun world. They are cheap soulless tools, but like the Bic, they work and are cost effective. They won't win any beauty contests but do the job they were designed to do remarkably well.

They've been a major influence on handgun design over the last 30 years with most new pistol designs showing some glock influence.

I am not a glock fan boy. I own two but many times more than that metal pistols and revolvers. Credit where credit is due though. They are probably the most successful and influental handgun design of last 30 years.

Bought a gen 1 G 17 30 years ago, been conducting my own "torture test" since then with the gun approaching the 300,000 rd count. Did my LEOSA qual with it last week. Own a bunch of gen 2's, carry a G 20 and 30 as my edc's. Have shot the gen 5's, may pick up a new 17 in the future, but have plenty of them to suffice for now.

Wow. That round count is amazing. Like the gun or hate it, the simplicity and durability of the design must be respected.

Don't really believe in Glock or the hype about its reputation. Glocks are for someone else to shoot.

Did get one a few years back though. A used 2nd generation Glock 17. I only acquired it in order to hate on it ... really!

I handled the G19 gen 5 this weekend. Wasn't interested in buying as I have a Glock 19 already. I will say it's less blockier than my other Glocks and the trigger is better. The guy explained the trigger bar was all one piece or something like that. So I think it's an improvement on the other Glocks out there.

That said for $550 bones, I think there's better option out there.

You are correct, like it or hate it......they are extremely functional, durable and reliable.....I know of several G 17's that have comparable round counts.....

I had to look up "pig nose". From behind the gun you can't see it, so why is this such an issue for some?

One thing I cannot forgive regarding the Glock, it effectively killed off the Steyr GB, a vastly superior gun in terms of style and engineering interest. Steyr later employed Bubits from Glock and built the M9, which is a sweet shooting pistol. But I can't help thinking that Steyr would have done better in building a polymer GB. The GB has a parts count rivaling the Glock and is at least as accurate if not more so. Of course, the mag restrictions here at the time meant that the market was not all it could have been for "wonder=nines".

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If I found a NIB gen 2 G19 I'd be sorely tempted.

I found a new in box gen1 G17 not too long ago!

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I mouth off in this thread that I'm not going to be a Gen5 guinea pig, and fate has a way of making me eat my words.

Every 5 to 6 weeks, my close friends who like to shoot and I get together. Range time turns a bit competitive. They added a stipulation to the 2018 year. For the competition targets, we all have to use the same model pistol, no modifications allowed other than backstraps. The pistol chosen? Glock 17 Gen5 with the Glock polymer dot & bucket sights.

I don't want to be the one to sit out friendly competition. I used my final GSSF coupon to buy a LE discount blue label Glock 17 Gen5. After waiting the idiotic mandatory IL 72-hour "cooling off" period on handgun purchases, I picked it up this morning, and headed straight to the range.

I field stripped it and put a drop of lube down each rail. Put about 325 rounds downrange. Overall the out of the box trigger on the Gen5 isn't bad. The Gen5 dot and bucket sights have more space between the front sight and the rear notch. Took me a mag to acclimate. Unlike the nightmare initial release Gen4 I owned, this Gen5 gave me no issues. Ejection was consistent.

I had my bone stock CZ 75B with factory equipped night sights with me. I sent 50 rounds downrage. I wish the majority consensus among my friends was to use a CZ 75B for the 2018 competition.

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I have a generation 3 Glock 20. Only thing it does is work very good. It is the most dependable and most boring gun that I own.

Only glocks approved out here are the Gen 3's, unless yo're an LEO. There are some 5's available via PPT, if you don't mind paying a small premium. We're talking $1000+, is what people are asking and some are paying. Seen prices as high as $1400.

Have shot but don't own a glock. Too much of a 1911 fan.

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No, held a Glock once -- that was enough.

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Not until they get thinner and lighter and purddier.........

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I only have two Glocks and they work fine! Don’t know what gens they are? but I won’t be running out to buy a new Gen 8 anytime soon!

Glocks are rapidly becoming the iPhone of the gun world.