Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics

Notices

Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics Post Your General Gun Topics and Non-S&W Gun and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-19-2017, 11:30 PM
Double-O-Dave Double-O-Dave is offline
US Veteran
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 4,162
Likes: 341
Liked 3,944 Times in 1,494 Posts
Default New mouse guns go to the range

I've had these for a little while, but haven't had a chance to shoot them until the other day. The Beretta Tomcat is chambered in .32ACP, and has the tip-up barrel - so you don't have to manipulate the slide. This is great for those of us with poor hand strength. I got this for my daughter, and hopefully, she'll get her LTC, and I'll gift it to her.

The NAA Blackwidow is chambered in .22 Magnum, and of course, is SA only. I offered it to my daughter, but I think she was intimidated by all of the manual manipulation that is needed to load, fire, safe and unload the piece. Its pretty loud, and the grips are comfortable. Because of my continuing back and hip problems, I need to off load weight, and this may become my back-up to my Model 638-1.

I ran a box of 50 rounds through the Blackwidow without any problems. I need to run a couple of more boxes through the Beretta before I'm comfortable handing it off to my daughter.

Regards,

Dave
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Beretta Tomcat.jpg (114.6 KB, 276 views)
File Type: jpg NAA Black Widow.jpg (101.5 KB, 102 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 08-20-2017, 12:11 AM
nutsforsmiths nutsforsmiths is offline
SWCA Member
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 220
Liked 1,314 Times in 356 Posts
Default

I bought a Tomcat brand new when they first came out. I think I shot about 400 rounds through it and then the frame cracked on the right side where I think the barrel release pin or the take down lever goes through. That seems to be a weak point on this model. Beretta replaced this model in their lineup with the slightly bigger and stronger Tomcat Inox version.

Just something to be aware of.

Last edited by nutsforsmiths; 08-20-2017 at 12:24 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-20-2017, 07:09 PM
Double-O-Dave Double-O-Dave is offline
US Veteran
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 4,162
Likes: 341
Liked 3,944 Times in 1,494 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nutsforsmiths View Post
I bought a Tomcat brand new when they first came out. I think I shot about 400 rounds through it and then the frame cracked on the right side where I think the barrel release pin or the take down lever goes through. That seems to be a weak point on this model. Beretta replaced this model in their lineup with the slightly bigger and stronger Tomcat Inox version.

Just something to be aware of.
Thank you for the heads up. It may be hard to see in my photo, but my Beretta is the Inox (stainless steel) version. I shot a box of standard velocity ball ammo out of it. My guess is that will be the only ammo fired out of it by me or mine.

Regards,

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-20-2017, 07:22 PM
Old cop Old cop is offline
US Veteran
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 7,807
Likes: 4,238
Liked 15,203 Times in 4,161 Posts
Default

I have back and hip problems that make reducing weight a must. That said my EDC is either the 340PD or when deep concealment is needed, the LCP.
__________________
Old Cop
LEO (Ret.)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-20-2017, 11:39 PM
nutsforsmiths nutsforsmiths is offline
SWCA Member
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 1,623
Likes: 220
Liked 1,314 Times in 356 Posts
Default

Dave,

Thanks for clearing that up. It was hard for me to tell that it was the Inox version. I had a fun time shooting my Tomcat, while I had it.....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-21-2017, 05:07 AM
GeoJelly GeoJelly is offline
Member
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: NOVA
Posts: 1,384
Likes: 5,601
Liked 1,381 Times in 581 Posts
Default

Good looking pair of handguns - I have the same Tomcat and sortof the same NAA. Mine has the shortest barrel - I think inch and a quarter. I have some new-production .22WRF (CCI) and I tried it a couple of weeks ago in the NAA. It wasn't mild but it wasn't as nasty as I've heard .22Mag is. All of the bullets key-holed at 5-yd so it isn't target ammo!! Also - and you prolly already know this - Winchester has released a reduced-velocity version of the .22Mag. Midway has it in stock occasionally.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-21-2017, 05:53 AM
wingriderz wingriderz is offline
Member
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,111
Likes: 2,876
Liked 2,506 Times in 1,281 Posts
Default

Awsome and congrats
__________________
Spin The Wheel
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-21-2017, 12:39 PM
REM 3200's Avatar
REM 3200 REM 3200 is offline
US Veteran
New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range New mouse guns go to the range  
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Biloxi, Mississippi
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 9,101
Liked 3,216 Times in 1,123 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double-O-Dave View Post
I've had these for a little while, but haven't had a chance to shoot them until the other day. The Beretta Tomcat is chambered in .32ACP, and has the tip-up barrel - so you don't have to manipulate the slide. This is great for those of us with poor hand strength. I got this for my daughter, and hopefully, she'll get her LTC, and I'll gift it to her.

The NAA Blackwidow is chambered in .22 Magnum, and of course, is SA only. I offered it to my daughter, but I think she was intimidated by all of the manual manipulation that is needed to load, fire, safe and unload the piece. Its pretty loud, and the grips are comfortable. Because of my continuing back and hip problems, I need to off load weight, and this may become my back-up to my Model 638-1.

I ran a box of 50 rounds through the Blackwidow without any problems. I need to run a couple of more boxes through the Beretta before I'm comfortable handing it off to my daughter.

Regards,

Dave


Dave,
A word of caution about the Tomcat. I had one and found that a failure to fire
could not be cleared by racking the slide. There is no extractor to clear the round from the pistol.
No problem removing the dud round with the tip-up bbl. but it is a process
that is to slow for a carry pistol, at least IMO, YMMV.
__________________
CSM, U S Army(Ret) 1963-1990

Last edited by REM 3200; 08-21-2017 at 01:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Lovers of 'Mouse' Guns kip595 Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 13 12-19-2016 11:53 AM
Mouse Guns??? Who Has Pics??? blujax01 The Lounge 69 08-12-2013 06:28 AM
Do mouse guns screw up your shooting? Farmer17 The Lounge 11 02-06-2013 12:00 PM
Bring Out The Mouse Guns labworm The Lounge 88 06-12-2011 05:52 PM
Who's buying all the mouse guns and SNS pieces? GatorFarmer The Lounge 16 03-08-2009 02:11 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:43 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)