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Old 09-03-2017, 08:50 AM
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Being a S&W fan for over 50 years my favorite Smiths were from the 60/70s. The first time I saw Kimbers entry into revolver was at the NRA convention a couple years ago. I bought a K6S as soon as I could find one and it reminded me of the S&Ws of old with the recessed chambers and silky smooth action. One thing S&Ws had over Colts IMO was a superior double action where you could easily stage the trigger. The Kimber K6S, I was glad to note has that same ability to stage the trigger, whereas the cylinder indexes well before the hammer drops. When you examine the K6S for the first time you're impressed by the build quality with it's excellent fit and finish. The only thing I didn't care for were the blacked out sights which were hard to pick up. Kimber a year later addressed that issue by coming out eith some excellent 3 dot sights. Another amazing feature is a 6 shot cylinder not much bigger than a Smith 5 shot cylinder. After my first two Kimber revolvers I'd hope to see a 3" version and now that too has become a reality, making the K6S even better.
Competition is a good thing and I'm glad to see Kimber bringing a really good revolver to market. I think revolvers are making a comeback, even Colt brought back a new and improved Cobra.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:09 AM
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I like the 3" barrel.

I tried my Kimber at 7 yards, and it's very consistent with the sights. It groups at 10 yards about the same. I ran out of ammo for 15 yards, since I was shooting steel at 25 yards.

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Old 09-03-2017, 09:18 AM
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My K6s has become my EDC. My J-frames just don't compare.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:24 AM
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Yes, also very impressed with the K6s line. I'm also hoping that Kimber will offer the Fiber Optic front sight as an accessory item soon since the DCR model comes with it. Then I'll change out the stock sight on my K6s.
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:21 AM
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Having owned and run a lot of ammo through a K6S for a few months, I have to concur, it has replaced every snubbie in my collection as my EDC gun. If I have to go pocket carry revolver lite, the 340PD gets the nod. Otherwise, it is always the Kimber.
That said, although I hoped for a 3" K6S, after shooting my 686+ and 586L comp I really don't think I can really expect any more from a 3" revolver. Those two are irreplaceable in my opinion.
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Old 09-03-2017, 11:59 AM
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I thought these new K6S had a slightly more polished finish but I guess not.

They look like quality revolvers and I would love to check one out in-depth. Very interested in how smooth a shooter it is, and what it looks like under the hood, as in what action design they incorporated.

I think the price is a little high for what it is. Although, if price wasn't a factor and I wanted to buy a new production snubby, the K6S would be leading the list. The new Colt Cobra would be a second option, but since Colts are my forte, I would probably just buy a vintage Detective over a new Cobra.
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I was able to examine a K6s a few weeks back. It was nice and does carry one extra round. However, it weighs a LOT more than my M&P340, it was larger, I did not like the grips and I could not find anyone who makes aftermarket grips. There also was not a lot of choices for leather. I like the 3 dot sights and the extra round couldn't hurt. It sort of reminded my of the Ruger SP-101 snubbies. Just bigger and heavier than it needs to be to do it's job. If more grips become available as well as a bigger selection of holsters, and TFX type sights I would probably take another look just because. They look like a nice pistol and if I didn't already have my J frame I might have given it more consideration. I just wouldn't hang up my J frame to replace it with the Kimber. Just my own feelings on the subject. Yours may vary of course.
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I also am surprised seeing the dull finish. That is the first K6S I have seen that wasn't a polished finish. I don't care for the dull finish. To each his own likes is all that matters. Other than that I really like the looks of the gun.
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:09 PM
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The first version of the K6S had a polished finsh but they now offer a brushed stainless finish also, due to demand.
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Let's see ... suppose I wanted more rounds than my 5-shot M&P340 holds.

I can double the weight and carry a 6-shot KS6.

Or I can double the weight and have 10 shots with 2 M&P 340's....2 independent fire systems, 2 different locations on the body, accessible to different hands.

I gotta run out and buy another M&P 340.
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I was able to examine a K6s a few weeks back. It was nice and does carry one extra round. However, it weighs a LOT more than my M&P340, it was larger, I did not like the grips and I could not find anyone who makes aftermarket grips. There also was not a lot of choices for leather. I like the 3 dot sights and the extra round couldn't hurt. It sort of reminded my of the Ruger SP-101 snubbies. Just bigger and heavier than it needs to be to do it's job. If more grips become available as well as a bigger selection of holsters, and TFX type sights I would probably take another look just because. They look like a nice pistol and if I didn't already have my J frame I might have given it more consideration. I just wouldn't hang up my J frame to replace it with the Kimber. Just my own feelings on the subject. Yours may vary of course.
Altamont makes nice after-market grips in several styles. As for a holster, my K6s fits in a Galco holster designed for a J-frame.
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Old 09-03-2017, 03:53 PM
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Aftermarket grips for the K6S are at this point not available from a number of the usual suppliers.
The K6S is all steel and weighs 23oz. vs. 22.1oz. for the all steel S&W 640 Pro. Comparing the K6S to a scandium frame S&W 340 is silly.
Retail price 640 Pro $839
Retail Price K6S $899
Used prices should equalize in a few months as demand wanes.
Size of the K6S and a 640 Pro are literally identical. What differs is the shape of the trigger guard which will determine if it will fit in your current j-frame holster. The Ruger is a much larger gun.

Kimber does offer the K6S in a high polished finish which would make it a potential scratch magnet. I personally wish they offered one in black.

K6S is probably not for everybody. Just those who seek something different from the usual offerings.

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I've dry-fired over a half-dozen examples of these now, and they are uniformly excellent, IMHO. As another poster wrote, they are quite easily staged, also, just as with a nice Smith. I've handled plain, F/O front, night, and 3-dot versions, and the latter is clearly the best option for my eyes. Gun points spot-ON for me, also. I LOVE the stocks on the OP/s 3" above. Are those OEM?
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Let's see ... suppose I wanted more rounds than my 5-shot M&P340 holds.

I can double the weight and carry a 6-shot KS6.

Or I can double the weight and have 10 shots with 2 M&P 340's....2 independent fire systems, 2 different locations on the body, accessible to different hands.

I gotta run out and buy another M&P 340.
Good point. I've actually always found it very easy to CCW three lite-weight J-Frames, IWB+Pocket+Ankle.
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I am getting more and more comfortable with it.


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I LOVE the stocks on the OP/s 3" above. Are those OEM?
Yes those are stock Crimson Trace grips that are offered as a model option in the K6S lineup.

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If I were comparison shopping for a concealed-carry revolver, would it be "silly" to compare a 37 ounce, 7-shot to a 23 ounce, 6-shot?

Would it be silly to give up one shot and trim 12 ounces of weight?

If those are differences worth considering, then would it be "silly" to consider giving up one more shot and trimming another 10 ounces of weight?

Now if somebody would only offer a 4 ounce, 4-shot .357 magnum, I'd have one in every pocket.
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Id consider a alloy version...I only carry in a pocket so the weight is key, so far the best I've found is a 340PD.
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The only thing I changes on this new 3" version were the grips. The slightly longer wood grips looked and felt nice but I prefer the Crimson Trace rubber boot grips so I ordered a set from Kimber and put them on. Now what I'd really like to see from Kimber would be a 3" version in 327 Magnum.
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If I were comparison shopping for a concealed-carry revolver, would it be "silly" to compare a 37 ounce, 7-shot to a 23 ounce, 6-shot?

Would it be silly to give up one shot and trim 12 ounces of weight?

If those are differences worth considering, then would it be "silly" to consider giving up one more shot and trimming another 10 ounces of weight?

Now if somebody would only offer a 4 ounce, 4-shot .357 magnum, I'd have one in every pocket.
It might be a little bit over 4 oz but it is a 4-shot .357 mag.

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Too heavy, too expensive. To say they directly compare with a J frame isnt true at all, they dont. To me, to compare to a J frame it has to weigh and ride in a pocket the same as a J and not double the cost of a J with the same features.
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The only thing I changes on this new 3" version were the grips. The slightly longer wood grips looked and felt nice but I prefer the Crimson Trace rubber boot grips so I ordered a set from Kimber and put them on. Now what I'd really like to see from Kimber would be a 3" version in 327 Magnum.
Beautiful gun. Size and weight exactly the same as a J-frame and as the owner of a 2" K6S I will testify the overall build quality makes it well worth owning. Retail price Mod 60Pro $799. Retail price K6S 3" $899. For that slight difference the Kimber is an interesting option.
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It might be a little bit over 4 oz but it is a 4-shot .357 mag.


I like it. What is it?
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There will always be nay sayers. Mostly those that have never even touched the gun they're bashing. Too set in their ways to try something different. Their loss.

My K6S has become my daily carry. It's not too heavy and not too big for pocket carry. Yes it's expensive. But the quality is equal to any S&W performance center gun. Maybe even better.
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I debated between the K6S and the 640 Pro. The Kimber had 1 extra round, but the Pro has moon clips which makes up for the 1 extra round. Add in night sights and a lifetime warranty and the Smith won. For $629 the Pro is a great gun. Got to admit the Kimber tweaked my interest, but a new model with no reliability history and only a 1 year warranty was not reassuring.
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Too heavy, too expensive. To say they directly compare with a J frame isnt true at all, they dont. To me, to compare to a J frame it has to weigh and ride in a pocket the same as a J and not double the cost of a J with the same features.
The K6s weighs 23 ounces. A S&W 640 weighs 23 ounces. My K6s fits in a Galco holster designed for a J-frame. They are certainly not the same -- that's true -- but they sure are comparable. If what you meant to say was a K6s is not comparable to an alloy framed J-frame, then you would be correct. As for cost, the Kimber's quality seems to be worth every cent (I haven't read about any canted barrels on the Kimbers!). Cordially and meaning no offense.
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Aftermarket grips for the K6S are at this point not available from a number of the usual suppliers.
The K6S is all steel and weighs 23oz. vs. 22.1oz. for the all steel S&W 640 Pro. Comparing the K6S to a scandium frame S&W 340 is silly.
Retail price 640 Pro $839
Retail Price K6S $899
Used prices should equalize in a few months as demand wanes.
Size of the K6S and a 640 Pro are literally identical. What differs is the shape of the trigger guard which will determine if it will fit in your current j-frame holster. The Ruger is a much larger gun.

Kimber does offer the K6S in a high polished finish which would make it a potential scratch magnet. I personally wish they offered one in black.

K6S is probably not for everybody. Just those who seek something different from the usual offerings.

I have owned the Kimber K6s for about 5 months, high quality gun. I like my J frames, but I also like the sixth round. If you are still interested in the blackened stainless on the Kimber, check out GunBroker. Kimber makes some all black, and some that are black with the contrasting stainless cylinder.
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There will always be nay sayers.
Hopefully you are not considering me a naysayer. I think that the K6s will fit for certain people, much like gp-100. Both do not feel right in my hand, so I do not use them. You cannot compare them to a SW 340 in ease of comfort to carry. Cost is relative- a firearm that fits you, hits where it should, and feels good is not overpriced. I love Ruger speed sixes in 2 3/4", but I dislike GP-100's, they do not feel the same to ME. I think the K6s is good for the market, competing against the SW performance guns, will make both companies better. Straight up SW 640 vs K6s, the 640 wins for ME, your results may vary, which is the way it should be. Be Safe,
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I have a S&W PC 586 L-Comp and PC 627 that came with moonclips. I don't care for moonclips. I prefer a speedloader or NY reloads, anyways.Stiff competition Kimber K6S


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I think revolvers are making a comeback, even Colt brought back a new and improved Cobra.
It might be new but it sure ain't improved.
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I have owned the Kimber K6s for about 5 months, high quality gun. I like my J frames, but I also like the sixth round. If you are still interested in the blackened stainless on the Kimber, check out GunBroker. Kimber makes some all black, and some that are black with the contrasting stainless cylinder.
Thanks for the heads up on the black K6S. I have not seen that model. If I decide on a 3" K6S that will be the one I choose.
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I haven't seen one of the new Colt Cobras yet, but I've got to believe it will be similar in design to the SF-VI/DSII that was discontinued 20 years ago.

My SF-VI has been 100% reliable has a great trigger pull and weighs 20 oz:


Of course there are still plenty of original Det Specials/Cobras/Agents still out there as an option too if you are looking for a 6 shot gun.

I'm happy the Kimber is out there are an alternative, competition is a good thing. I'm sure it is a fine weapon, but why did they have to make it look like a Ruger and a Pontiac Aztec had a baby?
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Well personally it does not directly compare to the J line until they come out with one that competes with the airweights at 15oz. 23oz is the weight of a subcompact doublestack 9mm in many cases. Why would I want a 6 shot revolver that heavy?

Also, compared to a J, how thick is it?
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Also, compared to a J, how thick is it?
It's 0.09" wider, if I'm not mistaken.
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Well personally it does not directly compare to the J line until they come out with one that competes with the airweights at 15oz. 23oz is the weight of a subcompact doublestack 9mm in many cases. Why would I want a 6 shot revolver that heavy?

Also, compared to a J, how thick is it?


It directly compares with a 640. Not a 442.




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Clang, that's a nice bob-job on your SFVI. I FINALLY got my first hands-on with the new Cobra today, and I am impressed. It points instinctively dead-on for me, I could stage the trigger, and while not quite a Smith...it's easily adapted to.
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The three inch looks odd, much like a three inch 640 or 940, to me, neither of which floats my boat.
The two inch looks more balanced. ymmv and probably should.
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Clang, that's a nice bob-job on your SFVI. I FINALLY got my first hands-on with the new Cobra today, and I am impressed. It points instinctively dead-on for me, I could stage the trigger, and while not quite a Smith...it's easily adapted to.
Thanks, but it wasn't me. That's a factory bobbed hammer on my gun.
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