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Old 09-28-2017, 06:39 PM
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I just bought a Rem 81 in 300Savage that has the Krieger Police
conversion of the Removable magazine. Gun is in top shape, I
have never owned one of these before but it's suppose to be the
best and most well made ones that was marketed through police
supply companies. I have seen pictures of 10 & 20 shot mags for
these. Mines only a 5shot, would like to have a bigger one just
for grins but they are scarce. I need to ferret out more info on
them. I probably paid to much but always wanted one. Anyone
An expert on these conversions? I am familar with 8s & 81s, I've
owned stock models in 35 cal. and have shot deer with them.
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:46 PM
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Great snag, only similar one I've seen in person was at the big 3 day show last December in Phoenix. I believe it had one 20 rd magazine and was set up as a Not for Sale display piece as part of a collection. Didn't think to examine it too closely, but I'd suggest the large shows like Phoenix or Tulsa to find original magazines.

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Good evening, I assume you have a copy of John Henwood's excellent book on "The Remington 8 and 81". A great section on police and FBI guns. I saw a Browning marked rifle at a show maybe 30 years ago with a mat raised rib but was already out of my price range, sure was nice tho. I did have an 8 in 35 from 1932 that I really enjoyed even if it did kick the hell out of me off the bench. But then I guess they were made for hunting not bench shooting!
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:06 AM
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Good evening, I assume you have a copy of John Henwood's excellent book on "The Remington 8 and 81". A great section on police and FBI guns. I saw a Browning marked rifle at a show maybe 30 years ago with a mat raised rib but was already out of my price range, sure was nice tho. I did have an 8 in 35 from 1932 that I really enjoyed even if it did kick the hell out of me off the bench. But then I guess they were made for hunting not bench shooting!
My first deer rifle was a #8/.35cal when I was a kid. I went about
110lb soaking wet. It did move me around a bit. Back in early
60s I bought mine used for $40, they weren't collector items
then. I don't have the Henwood book but I will look into getting
one. I do remember seeing a very plain looking 8 several years
ago. I don't rember if it was marked Browning or FN, or both.
I didn't take much notice of it because it was a .30, which was
an ammo problem and I was only interested in 35s.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:24 PM
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I believe the name of the company making those 10 and 20 rd mags was Peace Officers Supply Co. in the 1930's.
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...I don't know these guys...just found it on Youtube a while back...

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Congratulations. Can't help with any of your questions but I will admit that an 8 or 81 in .35 Rem has been on my wish list for years. More photos please!
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:15 PM
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Your Krieger Conversion was an after market model modification of a standard Model 8 or 81 to allow use of Krieger Modified magazines. They actually used the magazine taken off the rifle, and made it detachable. The Police Officer Equipment Model 8's and 81's are a completely different item. They were modified by the company in St. Joseph Mo. and sold by a sub company of Hillyard Chemical, the owner was a gun buff who had a police supply business on the side. As you may know the Police Model 8's and 81's are going thru the roof in price, there is currently an 81 on one of the boards for a buy now price of $9500. The Krieger was more of a hunting gun rather than a LE rifle. None the less ,they are a way cool gun and you are lucky to have found a nice one. All my very best, Joe.
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There was aKreiger mag conversion Model 81 for sale at a local gun show a couple years ago for $2700. 300Savage cal.
It disappeared so I'm guessing it sold.

I like the 8 and 81 but wasn't that interested in that one for that price.
I've got few 8's and an 81 to keep me company now.

Now an FN Model 1900 rifle,,that would be different!
Tried to make a deal with one dealer for one that needed major restoration. It had been reblued, the wood refinished, the rib was loose, ect.
Nothing I couldn't fix, but he thought it was all original and the only problem was the loose bbl rib. Priced like it was King Leopold's deer rifle. Looked like it may have been his truck gun...No Thanks.
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Old 09-30-2017, 06:58 AM
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Very cool- I have a standard Model 8 in .35 Rem but was unaware of this particular model. Thanks for sharing
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I had read somewhere that the original Remington plan for the Model 81 was to make it for a detachable magazine, but that did not happen. There was (and still may be) a pretty good website devoted to the 8 and 81. I haven't been there for a long time. BTW, if you don't already know, and are a reloader, it is easy to make .300 Savage brass from .308 or 7.62 NATO cases. Just resize in a .300 Savage FL die and cut the neck to length. I have two 81s in .300 Savage.

There was also an FBI-model 81 used by them from the WWII period onward. It was chambered in .30 Remington, but allegedly used a special lighter-than-standard load and a lighter recoil spring. I suppose the idea was to cut recoil allowing more rapid aimed fire. It had an adjustable peep sight attached to the receiver, and was carried in a fitted case. There are not many of those around, and if found, priced accordingly.

"I believe the name of the company making those 10 and 20 rd mags was Peace Officers Supply Co. in the 1930's."

Their magazines were stamped "Peace Officer Equipment Co." so I assume that is the correct name.

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