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How does this elevator work on a Hi-Power?
What moves?
What are the units?
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Push the button in on either side of the vernier adjustment and push it forward. As it moves forward the vernier (or tangent as it's also called) will rise for the targeting at the further distances.
Release the 'buttons' and the adjustment will lock at any of the marked distances.
IIRC the markings are in meters.
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You just squeeze the buttons on the side of the sight and slide the bar forwards or backwards and it raises or lowers the sight. I would assume the markings are in meters but don't know.
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Squeeze the outside buttons between thumb and forefinger, side forward and release at distance you wish to shoot at. Distance is in meters, more than likely.
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Push the button in on either side of the vernier adjustment and push it forward. As it moves forward the vernier (or tangent as it's also called) will rise for the targeting at the further distances.
Release the 'buttons' and the adjustment will lock at any of the marked distances.
IIRC the markings are in meters.
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BTW -- Keeping a 500 meter shot on target would be really something with a 9 mm pistol
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I had one just like yours, I see your backstrap, like mine, is slotted for a buttstock....they made a holster style, and IIRC, a plain wooden one. With the stock attached, you would have better control, and theoretically have a better chance of aiming at those long distances. Yours is in much better condition than mine was, but I still regret trading it off.
Cool guns. IIRC, mine also had nazi waffenampts on it.
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I had one just like yours, I see your backstrap, like mine, is slotted for a buttstock....they made a holster style, and IIRC, a plain wooden one. With the stock attached, you would have better control, and theoretically have a better chance of aiming at those long distances. Yours is in much better condition than mine was, but I still regret trading it off.
Cool guns. IIRC, mine also had nazi waffenampts on it.
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Not mine
Saw it for sale while surfing
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"Saw it for sale while surfing."
A triggerfish swimming by packing an artillery HP?
Man, I gotta get out on the water more.
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That is......
That is slick indeed.
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Originally Posted by les.b
I had one just like yours, I see your backstrap, like mine, is slotted for a buttstock....they made a holster style, and IIRC, a plain wooden one. With the stock attached, you would have better control, and theoretically have a better chance of aiming at those long distances. Yours is in much better condition than mine was, but I still regret trading it off.
Cool guns. IIRC, mine also had nazi waffenampts on it.
Best Regards, Les
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There is one thing to add to all this.
Les.b:
Yours was from the original FN production(captured by the invading Germans and promptly put to their use), and had the tangent sight and butstock from the get go (it was one of the features demanded by the French, that started the ball rolling, and finally didn't accept the pistol and went with a homemade design) it was later considered too expensive and simplified to fixed sights (funny, the same thing happened with the Inglis made HPs).
The post war production of a tangent sight BHP, named the "Captain" was also slotted on the backstrap, but the slot didn't fit (it's narrower) the original buttstocks, and they never produced a "modern" buttsotck for them. By then the classification as a short rifle made that option illegal almost everywhere.
@ Excitableboy:
That is not an "artillery pistol". The Luger did have an Artillery model with buttstock and tangent sights in WW I but it had an 8 inch barrel, it was supposed to also act as a carbine for the defense of artillery positions.
Edit. The picture posted by the OP is from a postwar "Captain".
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That sight was originally intended for 19 year old eyes. Just a thought. Joe
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"Browning Hi-Power pistols were used during World War II by both Allied and Axis forces. After occupying Belgium in 1940, German forces took over the FN plant. German troops subsequently used the Hi-Power, having assigned it the designation Pistole 640(b) ("b" for belgisch, "Belgian").[3] Examples produced by FN in Belgium under German occupation bear German inspection and acceptance marks, or Waffenamts, such as WaA613. The artillery version with its adjustable tangent rear-sight, shoulder-stock, 13 round magazine and later 20 round magazine was routinely converted to full-auto-only. In German service, it was used mainly by Waffen-SS and Fallschirmjäger personnel."
Yes, the OP's HP is a modern version. However, pistols in this configuration are "commonly" referred to as "artillery models", though not always technically correct.
If it quacks like a duck... ???
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"Browning Hi-Power pistols were used during World War II by both Allied and Axis forces. After occupying Belgium in 1940, German forces took over the FN plant. German troops subsequently used the Hi-Power, having assigned it the designation Pistole 640(b) ("b" for belgisch, "Belgian").[3] Examples produced by FN in Belgium under German occupation bear German inspection and acceptance marks, or Waffenamts, such as WaA613. The artillery version with its adjustable tangent rear-sight, shoulder-stock, 13 round magazine and later 20 round magazine was routinely converted to full-auto-only. In German service, it was used mainly by Waffen-SS and Fallschirmjäger personnel."
Yes, the OP's HP is a modern version. However, pistols in this configuration are "commonly" referred to as "artillery models", though not always technically correct.
If it quacks like a duck... ???
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I'm a notorious smart-***. If I weren't, my head would explode with all the other **** going on in the world. Gotta have a little fun, ya know.
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Pistols like that, with back strap grip slots and shoulder braces that doubled as holsters, were common imports from NATO surplus in the late-80s. I almost bought one but decided on my commercial Hi Power in '89.
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