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Hand gun to match 1884 Springfield rifle?
I'm working on putting a display together around the above rifle. I just scored a bayonet and scabbard for it and I have a led on a cartridge box with some original rounds for the Springfield.
What pistol would be correct military issue to go with the rifle? I don't think I could spring for an original, and would most likely go for a used remake.
What might I expect to pay for something like this? I'd like to be able to find one I could shoot once in a while along with the Springfield.
Thanks.
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03-03-2018, 07:29 PM
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should be 1873 colt , or s w Scofield .
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03-03-2018, 07:37 PM
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Check out Cimmarron Firearms. Beautiful reproductions.
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03-03-2018, 09:23 PM
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What pistol would be correct military issue to go with the rifle? I don't think I could spring for an original, and would most likely go for a used remake.
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Depends on what branch of the military--cavalry, artillery, infantry, or engineers. Most will be some flavor of the Colt 1873 Single Action Army (SAA), or, rarely, an S&W top break "Schofield" (for cavalry use). But then I'm not sure the cavalry were issued rifles, but carbines instead. Have to research that.
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What might I expect to pay for something like this? I'd like to be able to find one I could shoot once in a while along with the Springfield.
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A reproduction can run between $300-$800 depending on model and used/unused. I got the SAA in .357 for $375 delivered, used last year (it is the bottom gun in attached photo). The schofield reproduction pictured at top was much more, almost $700. The other is an 1875 remington, which I don't think was produced for the army (or if they were, not in much quantity). All reproductions made by A. Uberti from Italy.
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03-03-2018, 09:36 PM
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Check out Cimmarron Firearms. Beautiful reproductions.
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I believe almost all the reproductions for sale in the USA are originally made by A. Uberti, and then imported under different brand names here in the states, of which Cimmarron is one, as is Beretta and Stoeger, and Navy Arms (are they still in business?).
There are then, improved single actions like the modern Ruger Vaquero or the USArms (great quality but very expensive). And Colt still makes them, although the cost is high $1,000+.
And I forgot to mention caliber. I think the Army fist bought 44-40s but you need to do some research there, too.
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In 1884, the most common revolver would be a 7 1/2" .45 Colt Single Action Army. Generally, sidearms would not be issued to enlisted men in the infantry, who would be armed with the Trapdoor rifle.
Cavalrymen would be armed with the Springfield carbine and the Colt or the S&W revolver.
"I think the Army fist bought 44-40s but you need to do some research there, too." The .44-40 was a civilian round.
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03-03-2018, 11:25 PM
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The .44-40 was a civilian round.
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Reading through wikipedia (and I know someone must have a better resource) it appears that they were issued 45 colt. Sorry about that (but I did give warning).
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03-04-2018, 05:53 AM
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Forget authentic, a companion gun is one of interchangeable ammo. Freedom Arms BFR in 45-70 will fit that bill! Someone also built a limited production revolver in 45-70 based on the Walker design! If you stuck to Black Powder loads, it would almost be fun to shoot!
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Also depends on what time frame you are trying to depict. Some units didn't turn in their 1884s until WW1.
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03-04-2018, 11:01 AM
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Wow, a lot of information. Thanks a lot.
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03-04-2018, 12:52 PM
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When I first started cowboy action and got a set of Cimarron Cavalry models with black powder frames and cartouches (US Stamped). That would be a good counterpart.
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Also depends on what time frame you are trying to depict. Some units didn't turn in their 1884s until WW1.
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IIRC, James Thurber wrote that when he was in ROTC at Ohio State in 1916, his drill rifle was a Trapdoor Springfield.
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