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The news about Remington’s financial woes has produced the usual discussions in gun forums about what went wrong, with people discussing when their products supposedly turned to junk and “if they just had done X” and so on.

This isn’t about that at all. Remington in various corporate forms has, I believe, been the longest continuously operating gun maker in America since E. Remington and Sons set up shop in Ilion, New York, in 1816. That makes them an important part of American history.

They introduced a lot of almost legendary guns over the centuries. The only modern shotgun I ever owned was a magnum-receiver Model 870 I bought decades ago at a Bi-Mart or K-Mart (exact memory fails) for 199 bucks. Over time, I added an 18-inch police barrel and a 20-inch deer barrel with sights, and that served all my life’s shotgunning needs.

What I’ve got left in my collection now is a Remington 51 in .380. By the time John Pedersen’s gun hit the market in the later 19-teens, the competition from Colt and Savage was well-established and less expensive, so it didn’t do that well.

But in terms of the grip and handling, it’s my favorite among the early-20th-century pocket pistols. The Remington 51 is also notable in that it is the only pistol of the time where the .380 came before the .32 and vastly outsold the latter. On the other brands, the Colt 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless and the Savage 1907/1915/1917 series, the .32 outsold the .380 by a factor of 4 or more.

These guns nowadays tend to be in bad shape or expensive safe queens with box and stuff. It took me a while a few years ago to find this one, with minor cosmetic issues and some corrosive splots, for around 300.

Remington has never done history letters, but extrapolating from the serial and some research in various sources appears to place production of this gun in mid-1920.

Feel free to add any older or newer Remingtons you have.
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I was a late bloomer to guns at 18 Y/O. One of the first grail guns for me was a Remington 40X, preferably in 222 or 223. With luck & a bit of "dirty pool" I got an unfired 40X single shot in 223 Not the heavy bull bbl & benchrest stock, but a med contour bbl & sporter stocked 1977ish unfired with a leupold fixed 24x scope for 1,000$ maybe 5 years ago. (app 40 years later) Maybe catching a seller that liked to gamble, walking out his door on the way to Vegas, & I just happened to have 10 crisp Benjamins helped.

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I'll share this Model 34.
It"s an early one made in 31 or 32 I forget.
It is a tube fed bolt action with a very cool loading mechanism.
It's a tack driver also.

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I like my Nylon 66. Lots of folks don't like 'em, not really sure why.
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With no exception that comes to mind, ALL the American Gun Company's are not much more than a shadow of their former selves. NONE of them produce the quality, variations, customized choices, customer service, or pride of yesteryear. OK - MAYBE Ruger is the one exception, but only MAYBE.

Any of us that have vintage guns should cherish them as they will NEVER be made that way ever again! Again, with the exception of maybe Ruger, the American gun Company's have been mismanaged, misguided, forced into producing undesirable products and bought by conglomerates that either no little to nothing about the business or only care about the profits.

I HATE to be so negative about the future of our hobby, but in the long run (just being realistic) I see NO shinning future. If you have vintage Remington's, Winchester's, Browning's, Colt's, High Standard's, Smiths, Marlin's, etc. shoot them, care for them and enjoy them as long as you can!

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Mine aren't exactly vintage but my Remingtons from the early 80s have proven themselves for accuracy and dependability. Sure wish it could have continued.
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I own three Remington’s. An 870 Wingmaster 20 ga. I received from my parents for Christmas in 1972. A nice 1903A3 that I acquired a while back to scratch my WW2 fix. And a 20 ga. Tac -14 that I purchased recently that resides under my bed.
Really hope they can get their act together and survive. But I fear their bread and butter shotgun days are over.
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The news about Remington’s financial woes has produced the usual discussions in gun forums about what went wrong, with people discussing when their products supposedly turned to junk and “if they just had done X” and so on.

This isn’t about that at all. Remington in various corporate forms has, I believe, been the longest continuously operating gun maker in America since E. Remington and Sons set up shop in Ilion, New York, in 1816. That makes them an important part of American history.

They introduced a lot of almost legendary guns over the centuries. The only modern shotgun I ever owned was a magnum-receiver Model 870 I bought decades ago at a Bi-Mart or K-Mart (exact memory fails) for 199 bucks. Over time, I added an 18-inch police barrel and a 20-inch deer barrel with sights, and that served all my life’s shotgunning needs.

What I’ve got left in my collection now is a Remington 51 in .380. By the time John Pedersen’s gun hit the market in the later 19-teens, the competition from Colt and Savage was well-established and less expensive, so it didn’t do that well.

But in terms of the grip and handling, it’s my favorite among the early-20th-century pocket pistols. The Remington 51 is also notable in that it is the only pistol of the time where the .380 came before the .32 and vastly outsold the latter. On the other brands, the Colt 1903/1908 Pocket Hammerless and the Savage 1907/1915/1917 series, the .32 outsold the .380 by a factor of 4 or more.

These guns nowadays tend to be in bad shape or expensive safe queens with box and stuff. It took me a while a few years ago to find this one, with minor cosmetic issues and some corrosive splots, for around 300.

Remington has never done history letters, but extrapolating from the serial and some research in various sources appears to place production of this gun in mid-1920.

Feel free to add any older or newer Remingtons you have.
I share your enthusiasm for Remington Model 51s and currently have two. One is a safe queen in it's original box and in excellent condition. The other one is nice but I do use it as a shooter. I continue to be amazed at the quality and workmanship that went into these pistols and I expect if it were revived the cost for one would be over $1,000. I have been told that due to the fact that they are very reliable their slimness made them an early favorite by the police as a backup pistol.
If this pistol had been introduced earlier and initially in 32 acp; I expect it would have sold as well as the comparable Colt Model 1903.
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I also have had many Remington's, 870's, an 1100, 760, 7600's, a couple of 742's, a few bolt and pump .22's.

I have only kept all of the .22's and my 51. I would never part with these.

I don't buy new Remington's, but I hate to see them with the financial issues they are having.

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With no exception that comes to mind, ALL the American Gun Company's are not much more than a shadow of their former selves. NONE of them produce the quality, variations, customized choices, customer service, or pride of yesteryear. OK - MAYBE Ruger is the one exception, but only MAYBE.

Any of us that have vintage guns should cherish them as they will NEVER be made that way ever again! Again, with the exception of maybe Ruger, the American gun Company's have been mismanaged, misguided, forced into producing undesirable products and bought by conglomerates that either no little to nothing about the business or only care about the profits.

I HATE to be so negative about the future of our hobby, but in the long run (just being realistic) I see NO shinning future. If you have vintage Remington's, Winchester's, Browning's, Colt's, High Standard's, Smiths, Marlin's, etc. shoot them, care for them and enjoy them as long as you can!
I agree.
20 or 30 years from now those wonderful collections of Pre-1964 Winchester bolt-action rifles, Model 12 shotguns, classic Weatherby and Mauser rifles will only bring pennies on the dollar of their current values. It will be even worse for guns from the black powder era, with the POSSIBLE exception of Colt SA Armies. Wealthy Arabs, Russians, and Chinese Communist Party Officials may be the ones buying those up, at reduced prices.
Most younger shooters want adjustable plastic stocks, rapid fire, quick-change components and accessories, and have little knowledge or appreciation for good quality hand fitted guns required years of experience to learn how to fit them up right.

Loss of hunting habitat and land suitable for recreational shooting
are more and more of a problem every year, not to mention the nasty politics involved. These make it easier for prospective shooters to opt out entirely and choose something less controversial to do in tjeir spare time like golf and video games.
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I am such a Remington fan, my grandson is named Remington.

My two favorites are my 1959 878 Automaster and my 1933 Model 11.




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Don't forget the Rem 8-81-14- 141/2- 141 and the prewar 22s
and pump shotguns. I don't buy new Rems either but I have
several prewar rifles from 1873 RBs to a 1940s 81. All fine
milled parts guns. A lot of these were JM Browning designs.
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I've never fired one, but I think the recent RM380 is a winner.
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For the longest time it was Remington or Smith & Wesson. I have a 760, and 870,ma 721, a 541, a 51, a 1903 A3, and an R-1. I even took my 760 to Africa for plains game
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Among the Remingtons I've aquired were two Speedmasters. One smooth stock and one BDL.
One from my father another from my grandfather.
I gave one to each of my two sons when each was around 16 years old and knew how to handle firearms.
It was a great pleasure to do so.

Many years ago I bought my wife a Nylon 22. She loved that rifle. A burglar made off with that one.

My only remaining Remington is an 870 Magnum riot gun.
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This is the only Remington UMC 51 i have,32 cal. ser.#PA6513X,(1921--1923)
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I have 3 Remingtons an 870 12 gauge and 2 Mohawk 600 rifles which at one time were an economy rifle built on a short model 700 action. Both are sweet shooting little 18" barreled rifles, on in 308 and the other in 6mm. The Mohawks now command prices from about $600 up. I would kind of like to find one of the ones in 350 Remington mag.
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The only Remington I ever owned was an 1100 20 gauge I bought for my ex.

It was disposed of not long after her.

My brother somehow ended up with our GFs Model 11.

I think Remington’s guns, at least some, will survive the bankruptcy.
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Any early Remington is one I would have, but when they moved and began to acquire other brands-Marlin-Para- etc.-the quality went down hill. It is unfortunate to loose a great company that has been an American standard for so long, but guns are not something you can cheapen and stick a name on, and hope to get away with it for long. I had a Nylon 66 as a kid, and a Marlin 1895 CB, and own a Para Super Hawg, all fine guns, all made before...Sad. Gun companies need to be run by gun people, who have integrity as a goal-not just profit by itself. Just grabbing the money is not a formula for success. JMHO
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When I was an ardent trapshooter for over 35 years I went through a huge number of shotguns trying to find the perfect one that would give me a high average. Some of my favorite Remingtons were the Model 32 o/u which wound up being the Krieghoff Model 32 which graduated into the K-80 being in my opinion the lightest recoiling o/u shotguns of all. I also had two Rem 3200's as well as several 1100's. For all around I found the 1100's to be the most versatile and shooter friendly of all. They also had great balance and very mild kick for those 500 round days. I had three 870's and consider them the most rugged pumps ever made. I also had my share of Remington rifles which were also great. On the overall my experience with Remington products was very satisfactory.

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When I finished my brief tour of Army basic and advanced training I came home in love with the M14 and the 7.62 NATO round. Shortly thereafter I married (first of three - oh, well!!!) and one day I decided that owning my dad's old .22 (Heym; made in the 1950s) was insufficient to satisfy my love of firearms so I bought a Remington Model 788 in .308 Winchester to match my 7.62 craving. That rifle will be fifty years old in the not too distant future and it is still a tack driver.




Around that same time frame I discovered the Nylon 66 and and around 40 years later I bought one!




My other Remingtons (no pictures) are a couple of 870s and a lovely Model 700 ADL in .223 caliber. All good shooters. I did have a Custom Shop Model 700 in .257 Roberts but I sold it back when money was more important than that particular rifle.

I hate to see Remington is such trouble.

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Hope they pull it off and get on line with their quality control. In my mind their one shining star is their line of R1 1911's. I have three of them and they all really impress me. Last year I wanted to buy a 700 in .308 and was lucky to find a really nice older model BDL.
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I've had a few Remingtons over the years, and have been pleased with them all. I hope the bankruptcy will get things straightened out for them; they are a valued piece of American history.

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My first shotgun has been a humble 12 ga 870 express. Simply flawless. Since then, I gathered an 1187 3 inch, and an 1187 31/2 inch. Both the 870 and the 3 inch 1187 had been bought new and each has about 10 thousand shot shells through them. The 3.5 inch I bought used, but in great shape. Unknown how many shots it has had, but works fine with 1 ounce bird shot. I know that many consider the 1187 a low end gun, but for me, its the other way around. to this day, I have not fired or seen another auto loader that can master recoil so magnificently, have so many aftermarket accessories, be fully supported in parts by the company 3 decades after its debut, and still cost much less than anything that tries to come close. Then again, that's my personal opinion, and other people's mileage may vary. I respect that. As for the company's future, my take is can anyone here spell Remington in Chinese? If so, please write it down for us so we start getting used to the image...
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I agree.
20 or 30 years from now those wonderful collections of Pre-1964 Winchester bolt-action rifles, Model 12 shotguns, classic Weatherby and Mauser rifles will only bring pennies on the dollar of their current values. It will be even worse for guns from the black powder era, with the POSSIBLE exception of Colt SA Armies. Wealthy Arabs, Russians, and Chinese Communist Party Officials may be the ones buying those up, at reduced prices.
Most younger shooters want adjustable plastic stocks, rapid fire, quick-change components and accessories, and have little knowledge or appreciation for good quality hand fitted guns required years of experience to learn how to fit them up right.

Loss of hunting habitat and land suitable for recreational shooting
are more and more of a problem every year, not to mention the nasty politics involved. These make it easier for prospective shooters to opt out entirely and choose something less controversial to do in tjeir spare time like golf and video games.
I have foreseen the same ugly truth friend...
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Got this made in 1973 1100 around 92'. Shot lots of clays with it for a long time. Got serious with sporting clays and the Italian bug bit. The 1100 now sits at the ready in a new role.
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I TOTALLY disagree with that assessment Savage has always made very good rifles and today they have improved their models by a big margin. They make some of the finest guns on the market IMO. I have a Savage 12 LRPV in .223 that will shoot a 5" group at 500 yards all day if the wind is right. And it cost me about $900. At 300 yards it is so accurate it's almost boring. Even their much cheaper MkII rimfire rifles are exceptionally accurate much of the time. They aren't made with the same amount of quality control as the LRPV but my MkII is the best shooting rimfire I own and I own several including a CZ 453.

How about a couple of targets. I don't have any 500 yard targets because the range where I shoot has a dip in the road where you can't be seen and if you don't have someone watching from the shooting area you can find yourself under fire. And I usually like to shoot alone so I don't get distractions. Anyway I do have a 125 yard target with a 4 round group. I was sighting in a scope so I only shot a few times. I also have another 4 shot group shot by my MkIIBTV. I ran out of ammo when I shot this at 50 yards. I can barely make a bullet fit through the hole. I have lots of other targets I could post from the rimfire and a target of sorts I shot at 500 yards with the LRPV. IMO any company that makes rifles that shoot like these is doing pretty well. And the 12 LRPV is an exceptionally well made rifle in addition to being very accurate.




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I have my dad's Model 1100 12 gauge & his Model 742 in .308. Both guns have never had a single problem. Both were made in 1975. The 742 is the most accurate rifle I own. Better than my Savage 110 in .308 & just a bit better than my T/C Contender in .309 JDJ. The Model 1100 shoots any shell & has never hung up. Not once! I also have a Model 870 12 gauge with 18" barrel & a 26" vent rib barrel with interchangeable choke tubes. Picked the barrel up at a gun show for $100.00 in new condition.
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First non-22 firearm I bought was Remington rolling block in 7mm Mauser caliber in about 1955. Gun stores had barrels full of them for either $8 or $9. they were well built (although modern 7mm ammo was a bit hot for them; about 1 in 5 shots would result in a separated case).

Still have a couple of old military rolling blocks in .43 Spanish. It's surprising how much fun I can still have with those old rifles and 20 black powder cartridges.
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One of my favorite pump shotguns is a Remington Model 10T (Target). That's the V/R barreled version of the bunch.
Those early Remington shotguns like the 10, 11, 31 Vent Rib bbls were made of all one piece.. rib, posts and bbl. No soldered assemblys or separate top rib that slides onto the posts.

I'm just staring to get into a restoration and upgrade of a Remington/Lee Mod 1899 bolt action sporter. Orig caliber is 30-30WCF,,they left off the WCF in the marking through. I'll keep it that way.
Also a Model 1894 SxS DE Grade 12ga awaits help, lots of help!
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This was beyond the good stuff.
From an old 722 in 300 savage.





and to the nay sayers............hope remains

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Was just thinking... the only Remington’s I have, are ones I can’t get rid of: Grandpa’s 760 deer rifle in 30-06, wife’s grandfathers ‘03, a 572 brother & I got, and prolly end up with Dad’s 1100’s & 700. Things may have been different 50 years ago, but I never really appreciated the newer remingtons. I guess they seemed cheap to me... always thought someone else made a less expensive higher quality alternative. Ithaca, Savage, Browning, and Winchester, and even a Beretta are my preference for shotguns & rifles.
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My first shotgun was a Remington 1100 when they first came out. Not a big shotgun like my revolvers to much. But after years in Law Enforcement addicted to my 870 magnum. Just added some Mag Pul items and had ghost ring installed years ago. Shot a tactical shotgun course a while back and sort of proud of myself.

I got my Dad's Sportsman 58 in 16 ga. his squirrel gun. He his honor going to use it opening day of season this year. Yes there is a 22 and 30-06 Remington in the safe also not about to go anywhere
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The only Remingtons I've ever owned, a model 4 and a model 6 .22s.

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I agree.
20 or 30 years from now those wonderful collections of Pre-1964 Winchester bolt-action rifles, Model 12 shotguns, classic Weatherby and Mauser rifles will only bring pennies on the dollar of their current values. It will be even worse for guns from the black powder era, with the POSSIBLE exception of Colt SA Armies. Wealthy Arabs, Russians, and Chinese Communist Party Officials may be the ones buying those up, at reduced prices.
Most younger shooters want adjustable plastic stocks, rapid fire, quick-change components and accessories, and have little knowledge or appreciation for good quality hand fitted guns required years of experience to learn how to fit them up right.

Loss of hunting habitat and land suitable for recreational shooting
are more and more of a problem every year, not to mention the nasty politics involved. These make it easier for prospective shooters to opt out entirely and choose something less controversial to do in tjeir spare time like golf and video games.
I tend to think quality always holds it's value and the youngsters will grow up and appreciate it just like we did.

Lets hope so since I own a bunch of Mausers, a Model 12 and a superb Remington 700 BDL varmint special in 22-250 made in 1980.
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Remington 700C from about 1974:


And an 870 from about the same year:


A model 121 that's so much fun it might be illegal:


And a 24 from the early 20's, I think I remember
Still shoots fine with standard velocity ammunition:


I've got a few more, but no pictures. I really like the 510 & 511 rimfires.
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If and when Andrew Cuomo tries to run for President, please remember he was the Governor of the State of New York, the historical home of Remington, who essentially ran Remington out of New York State.
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My favorite Remingtons are the M 600 and 660.
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Remington 700C from about 1974:





And an 870 from about the same year:





A model 121 that's so much fun it might be illegal:





And a 24 from the early 20's, I think I remember

Still shoots fine with standard velocity ammunition:





I've got a few more, but no pictures. I really like the 510 & 511 rimfires.


What caliber is the 700 Classic?

I used to love the way they came out with a different ,non-catalog chambering every year, like .257 Roberts or .300 H&H.
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It's in .243, but the C is for Custom, not Classic. I think the Classic series started about 1981. Back in the early 70's Remington was trying to make it semi-affordable for a guy like me to buy something from the Custom shop.

Quoting from the 1973 Gun Digest catalogue: "Same as the 700 BDL except choice of 20, 22, or 24 inch bbl, with or without sights. Jewelled bolt, with or without hinged floorplate. Select American walnut is hand checkered, rosewood forend and pistol grip cap. Hand lapped barrel. 16 weeks for delivery after posting order".

The listed retail price in the catalogue was $345.00, and the recoil pad was an additional $12.00.

The BDL price that year was $174.95.

Of course if you had real money you could get the Peerless Grade for $595.00, ot the Premier Grade for $1295.00.

It's a slick machine in operation.

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Two 870's in 12 & 20 ga. from the early 90's have been flawless while much used.
Bought aftermarket followers and springs but haven't needed to swap.
They stay loaded with one chambered and 18.5 barrels in between trips.


I bought a mid 70's 700 BDL in great shape a few years back from a friend.
It's about wasted on me. Couple times a year I shoot a clover leaf off a bench at 200 yds. with a $50 Barska scope. No adjustments necessary just clean and oil and back in the case she goes.
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When I was young,guys in my area would start a fight(granted,after a few beers)over which was best;Winchester or Remington.Nowadays,young shooters buy guns from companies I can hardly pronounce the name and wear more plastic than wood and steel.
Wonder where we're going!Guess I must be gettin'old!
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I’m a Remington fan. I used to have rifles and shotguns, but now mostly 22’s. Got side tracked chasing Belgium Browning’s and pre-64 Winchesters so that’s what my shotguns and big bore rifles are these days. Still have the Remington 341 that I learned to shoot on. The very gun that my grandfather gave my dad when he returned from WWII. Sort of a story there, my dad’s 34 was stolen from my grandfather’s truck so he bought the 341 to replace it. So now, I buy 34’s when I see them, hoping I’ll find dads original.
Here’s what I currently have: 341, 34, 34, 550-1, 12, 12A, Win 06 and a Nylon 10C. Didn't have a pic with just the 12’s.
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Sorry to say, I only have two Remingtons; my 30 year old 870 and a recently bought RM380. As someone commented above they got the RM380 right!

It has to be one of the best .380s on the market, alloy frame, steel slide, DAO, ambi mag release. 400+ rounds through it w/o a single problem. A friend has an R1, very well done 1911.

I hope the corporate masters do right by the company, while the pols in NY had no regard for the company, obviously they are welcomed in the South. I hope they thrive in their new home.
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My first gun was a Improved Model 6 that my Dad bought me when I was eight. When i got out of the service in 1946 I couldn't afford a rifle until 1950 and I got one of the last machined receiver Model 121's.
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The RM380 is miles better than it has any right to be. I'm not even going to qualify that with "for the money". It'd be a fantastic pistol at twice the price.

The problem is that they released a bunch of terrible to average pistols ahead of it, so nobody believes Remington could make anything good.

Their latest attempts at handguns were just...inept. They bought Para and then didn't make an LDA. Instead they released another by-the-numbers 1911 into a crowded market.

PS--I'm not a huge fan of Ruger's 1911 either. The last one I dry-fired (just recently), had a horribly creepy, rough trigger pull. And a noticeably different trigger pull if you dry-fired, held the trigger back, hand-cycled, reset and dry-fired again. There was something seriously sloppy going on in there.

About the only potential bright spot is maybe their 10mm model, which I heard is pretty cheap. But I'm not too familiar with 10mm 1911 pricing.
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I would like a new Remington double stack 1911.
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In the 1860's and 70's the Remington Rolling Block revolutionized almost all the armies of the world (except ours!). Their cost and accuracy most likely put Sharps out of business! The Rolling Block set accuracy and competition records on both sides of the Atlantic.

The repeating bolt action rifle seems to have ended the Rolling Blocks usefulness, but Remington has done pretty well with those too.

I'm down to 2 Rolling Blocks and 4 of the 700's. One of these 700's shoots less than 2" groups at 500 yards! Another has shot several flies off my targets!

A friend of mine has 41 model 40x rifles, all in 222 Remington! (most with those primitive Unertl scopes!) 1 of those is a first year 40x made on the 788 action!

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Been shooting 1100's since 1973. I own four of them, the newest being a 1986 Tournament Skeet. I've never had any desire to own any other auto-loader
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I'm a Big R fan. With six rifles: 760 first year made. Which was the year I was born. Has a four digit serial number. The serial number is the yr I got out of high school just the numbers are backwards. Two 700 BDL's. One 308 and 300 WM. Two 7400 308 and 243. One 870 12 ga. One chainsaw. Yes, I typed chainsaw. One hand held clay target thrower with wood handle. One pocket watch.
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