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Old 05-11-2018, 09:25 PM
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I recently took possession of a nickel High Standard Double Nine Convertible with what I believe is the .22WMR cylinder. I believe this is the magnum since a .22 LR fits quite loose and I don't want to do anything stupid and try firing it. I can't find any indication on what caliber this cylinder is other than the loose fit.
I would really prefer to shoot .22 sub sonic in this revolver but it appears that spare cylinders are about non existent in the secondary market.
Does anyone have a source for a nickel cylinder for this gun in .22LR?
Thanks, I hope this is in the right forum, I've not been on here in a long time.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:39 PM
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Comrad - there are more than a couple of them - in blue - on that flea site as you have prolly already found out. Getting one refinished in satin nickle would be tricky - but I bet CCR Refinishing could help you out... I have my Dad's old Double-9 in .22LR only. He used it once a year to stun a steer for butchering. I don't have the box but it looks great for being over 50 years old...
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Old 05-11-2018, 10:57 PM
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I got a pretty good condition, blued Double 9 for cheap. It only came with the .22 mag cylinder. I've been looking for the complete .22 conversion, but won't pay over $100.00 for one. They are out there, and while looking I have seen the satin nickel ones offered.

The picture is of the .22 mag cylinder that I sent to a seller because he didn't know if what he was selling was for a .22 or .22 mag. You can definitely see the longer chamber for .22 mag.

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Old 05-12-2018, 08:58 AM
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I'll have to get my magnifying glass out, I did look down there but didn't pick up that ridge, I will check it this morning. I suppose I could take it to my LGS and see if a .22WMR fits.
Meanwhile the hunt continues.
Thanks

Update, I got a good look down the cylinder and the reason I couldn't see the ridge indicating it's a magnum is that the previous owner apparently shot the snot out of this thing with LR or possible shorts.
A little cleaning and it's nice and clean.

I'm still glad to have it but would be more gladder if it had the .22 LR cylinder.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:08 AM
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The Double Nine my folks gave me for my 14th birthday is THE ONE I wish I'd never parted with.

At 16 I bought (Mom straw transaction) a K-22 and thought, at age 20 when I sold it, I wouldn't miss the Nine. I was wrong.
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A cylinder assembly from the H/S Sentinel may work in the Double Nine revolvers. They are the same guns with different outside appearances.
The DoubleNine was a re-work of the Sentinel starting in '58 or 59.

The very early Sentinel cylinder will NOT work (mid 50's production) as it has the 1st style ratchet on the cylinder back side. Easy to spot as it is simply 9 evenly spaced shallow holes, all about 1/8" in dia. Each with an accompanying small channel cut towards the center pin.

Wether they actually do fit and the ejector rod is the same ect,,I do not remember. Not a lot of action working on any of these over the years. But just a though that may widen the field in a search for a 22lr cylinder.

Some research may help settle the question.

The Double Nine made for the 22mag and 22/22mag convertible was a steel frame version. The Model number was the 106, came around in the mid 60's IIRC.
Earlier 22lr only guns were alloy frames, model 104. But sold under a bucket of fancy names as the finish and features changed.

Early guns had a firing pin on the hammer. When the 106 steel frame was intro'd, they went to a transfer bar w/firing pin setup.

AFAIK, they never marked the convertible cylinders with caliber markings. It was just the Mags don't fit in the LR cyl,,and LR's are a loose fit in the Mag cylinder. You figure out which one you have.
Different time I guess.
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Yes, based on s/n mine is steel 1973 vintage with magnum cylinder, I can see the ridge inside and the 22LR is way loose.
My main reason for wanting the LR cylinder is trying to avoid the magnum boom, my hearing can't take it. I did find Winchester makes a 45 gr 1060 sub sonic. Yeah, I know defeats the magnum but I'm only interested in plinking. Got the gun for nothing through an estate, couldn't turn it down, gift horse and all that.
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.22 short, long, subsonic, magnum - it doesn't matter. Hearing protection is required in all cases. Then, your ears won't know the difference.

Dad didn't agree with me. "Huh" was his favorite word....
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A cylinder assembly from the H/S Sentinel may work in the Double Nine revolvers. They are the same guns with different outside appearances.
The DoubleNine was a re-work of the Sentinel starting in '58 or 59.

The very early Sentinel cylinder will NOT work (mid 50's production) as it has the 1st style ratchet on the cylinder back side. Easy to spot as it is simply 9 evenly spaced shallow holes, all about 1/8" in dia. Each with an accompanying small channel cut towards the center pin.

Wether they actually do fit and the ejector rod is the same ect,,I do not remember. Not a lot of action working on any of these over the years. But just a though that may widen the field in a search for a 22lr cylinder.

Some research may help settle the question.

The Double Nine made for the 22mag and 22/22mag convertible was a steel frame version. The Model number was the 106, came around in the mid 60's IIRC.
Earlier 22lr only guns were alloy frames, model 104. But sold under a bucket of fancy names as the finish and features changed.

Early guns had a firing pin on the hammer. When the 106 steel frame was intro'd, they went to a transfer bar w/firing pin setup.

AFAIK, they never marked the convertible cylinders with caliber markings. It was just the Mags don't fit in the LR cyl,,and LR's are a loose fit in the Mag cylinder. You figure out which one you have.
Different time I guess.
There are up to 6 dashes of revisions with the Sentinel. I have a -3 and a -6 and they do not interchange.
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There are up to 6 dashes of revisions with the Sentinel. I have a -3 and a -6 and they do not interchange.
So much for that bright idea of mine!
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:48 AM
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.22 short, long, subsonic, magnum - it doesn't matter. Hearing protection is required in all cases. Then, your ears won't know the difference.

Dad didn't agree with me. "Huh" was his favorite word....
I am diligent with protection but notice even with plugs and muffs the bigger the boom the more gets through. From what I read these 22 wmr are viciously loud. I have tinnitus and am very careful about exposure to loud noise.
I'm finding various db numbers but magnum seems to run in the 150 range and shorts about 110. Does this sound right? If so, wouldn't this be easier on the ears?
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You haven't mentioned what model you have. GPC has cylinders for some models for about $80.
Here's a link to start you off:

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A dear friend had one as his 1st gun and a great story to go with it. While he was a young airman in Texas in the 60s he was messing with some guys wife. Turns out the husband was a really big guy and caught up with Frank one night and was going to pound him into the ground. While yeah Frank was in the wrong he really didn't want to die as a bloody spot in the ground so he pulled the Double 9 and shot the ground next to himself. It was enough to get husband to move on. So in-spite of all the money Frank spent on some pretty nice guns over the years that High Standard Double Nine was the only one that ever saved his life.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:38 AM
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Since I don't see or can't find markings, I have to go by serial number and it's made in around 1973 and is likely a W-106. The problem is the gun is nickel and I would like to keep it all nickel.
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You are probably correct that it a 106.

There is a great Hi-Standard site showing all the different series.
The shape of the end of the ejector rod is the clue. Obviously you want to find one with the same shape.

You have your work cut out for you, same shape at end (with the same number of grooves,) AND nickel. You will find one, but it'll take some luck, maybe time, and $$$

Picture is a 106

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You are probably correct that it a 106.

There is a great Hi-Standard site showing all the different series.
The shape of the end of the ejector rod is the clue. Obviously you want to find one with the same shape.

You have your work cut out for you, same shape at end (with the same number of grooves,) AND nickel. You will find one, but it'll take some luck, maybe time, and $$$

Picture is a 106

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That's my ejector rod, the cylinder is unfluted as well. In the mean time I will see if my LGS has the sub-sonic WMR. I bet there's somebody out there with a .22 LR who wishes it was a .22 WMR.
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I have an old High Standard 22lr. Pistol myself,not a convertible but a Sentinel 107.Fun little 9 shot 22 to own.Its like brand new but made in 1966.Won it on an auction site for $214.
Good luck finding your cylinder.
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The Double Nine my folks gave me for my 14th birthday is THE ONE I wish I'd never parted with.

At 16 I bought (Mom straw transaction) a K-22 and thought, at age 20 when I sold it, I wouldn't miss the Nine. I was wrong.
How would you like to relive that 14th birthday feeling with a chrome W-106 WMR?
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