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Old 05-13-2018, 10:40 AM
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What would be a good price to pay for a Marlin 1895 GBL .45-70 lever action? Brand new, unfired, from a private seller. He has the docs and lock but threw away the box. It comes with 20 boxes of new factory ammo. 20 round boxes, I believe, various brands including some Hornady, etc. Any comments on the rifle itself welcome too. This one was made in North Haven, Connecticut not Ilion, N.Y. Thanks.
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Well, it depends on how bad you want it and how badly he want's to sell it.

The gun retails for $785, but can be found new for $600. So, if it were me, I'd be looking to pay $550 for the gun.

The ammo is the big question. 45-70 ammo ain't cheap and finding it for $1/round is a good deal. 400 rounds could run over $400 for decent ammo.

If you could get the whole package for $800 that would be a steal.

In this case the factory box is irrelevant. This gun will never be a collector's item in your lifetime.
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The ammo is the big question. 45-70 ammo ain't cheap and finding it for $1/round is a good deal. 400 rounds could run over $400 for decent ammo.
I'm pretty sure he's got even more than that into the ammo. Some of it was $35 a box.
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The JM stamped ones command a small premium, but all of them were made after the sale to the Freedom Group in 2007. They will never have the collector appeal of the early 2000s Guide Guns. Or, really, any pre-Freedom Group 1895 model.

No ammo, maybe a $500-$550 rifle, add $100 for a JM stamp. The ammo, as stated above, could be $500 or more. I for one have no issues paying full retail for boxes of ammo with a gun sale; I'm not paying tax/shipping and I don't have to make a trip to the gun store.
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The JM stamped ones command a small premium.....
What's the deal on the JM stamp and where would it be located?
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What's the deal on the JM stamp and where would it be located?
On the barrel near the receiver. A Remlin is marked REP.
I sold a JM Guide gun, stainless for $650 a couple months ago.
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Unlikely this is a JM gun. The mark will be at the chamber end of the barrel right where it meets the receiver and on the left side. Like this:
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That particular rifle, whether a "JM" marked or "Remlin" is a pretty hard sell around here in the Central Texas area. The "JM" Marlins usually sell better/easier than the Remlins, but still, they tend to linger on the local gun boards unless marked low/very low. I remember last year one guy sold his NIB Remlin for $350.00 and it sold within minutes. The .45/70 caliber is legendary, and would easily kill any animal on the North and South American continents. However, people are intimidated by the stories of its stout recoil, and the price of the ammo. (BTW - I hunted with an experienced shooter last year that was a Guide Gun fan, and he compared the recoil as being comparable to shooting a 12 ga. shotgun with slugs.) The rifles are neither target guns nor range rifles. A lot of people I know like to use them for hunting hogs.

I think the estimates provided by Rastoff and hkcavalier are accurate. At my age, I've decided to keep and use the rifles I have on hand and not acquire any new ones for my family to worry about once I pass - however, I do know my son has been drooling over the thought of owning a .45/70 for a long time.

BTW, the earliest Marlin Guide Guns had ported barrels. Now a days, on the more modern versions, the only barrel porting you'll see is done after it leaves the factory.

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Here in Ohio we have had limited rifle season for 3 yrs. 45/70 is
a legal caliber. 1st year legal cals were sold at premium prices,
supply and demand. Now used market has a lot of Marlin 95s
For $500-$600 range. This doesn't include JM rifles, they are
bringing premium prices on all levers. I'm not up on all the new
variations from Remington but would go by lowest price that
was offered NIB and deduct $100. That would be if I wanted the
gun myself. If it was just dealing I would deduct $200. If it can
be bought NIB for $600 , you would have trouble breaking even
at $500. On top of that a lot of guys that bought 45/70s for
deer are now looking for more practical cal. rifles. The 45/70
is a lot of gun for eastern white tails. That's why there are a
lot of them on used market.
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Grab a gun has them priced close to $500. New Do a bundle price for the rifle and ammo for $475.

I like the cowboy “CB” model.

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New Do a bundle price for the rifle and ammo for $475.
For a brand new rifle and 400 rounds of ammo? That would be an insult to even the most desperate of sellers.
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$475 for the gun then half the cost of the ammo? I didn’t know it was 20 boxes of ammo that’s 400rds.

I complained when my 338 win mag ammo was $24 a box. Now it’s like $70 a box.
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