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Hey, guys ... I like High Standards as I'm sure many of you do, too. I have several and enjoy shooting and collecting them but I'm stumped here.

It was advertised as: High Standard The Victor MOST RARE Slant Grip 5.5"

I need a reality check ...

What's the allure of this model High Standard to mandate a $4,025 sale price ?

See: High Standard The Victor MOST RARE Slant Grip 5.5" - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 805070249
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The slant grip Victors were a special order item and very few were made.
I have no idea if they are worth what that one went for but, apparently, it was to someone.....
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Amongst High Standard collectors it is highly desirable due to it's rarity. Mint examples with box will typically bring over $4K.
This one looks a little less than mint, but since someone bought it, I guess that will be a benchmark for next time!

By the time the Victor was introduced, the slant grip was definitely "passé" with the bullseye competition crowd. Everyone wanted (and generally still want) the "military" grip that mimics the 1911.
Funny thing, it wouldn't surprise me if High Standard offered the slant grip option on the Victor just to use up leftover NOS frames from earlier production Citation and Trophy models!

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I have a regular Victor in excellent condition with one barrel weight and an extra magazine. No box. What approximately is it worth?

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The only reason I asked is because I own one (about 20,000 serial numbers away from the one that sold on Gunbroker). I had no idea it was worth THAT much, especially that over the past 10 years the High Standard prices have taken a slide as the younger generations prefer plastic.

The High Standards, right out of the box, were very accurate and user friendly target pistols. I hold my High Standards with high regard. Owning several standard variation Victors, Citations and a few older HDs, plus 3 High Standard / John Giles accurized .22LRs.

Thanks, Guys. Much appreciated.
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I have a regular Victor in excellent condition with one barrel weight and an extra magazine. No box. What approximately is it worth?

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Bob, Need more info and a few pix would help. What Model Victor is it (e.g Model 107, 106 etc ) and appx serial number range (you can xx the last 2 numbers if you'd like) ? Does it have the high bridge type rear sight ?
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The pictured gun appears to be an old style slant grip frame with the newer style Victor top end. I'm sure there are certain collectors that pay big $ for unusual limited editions. I would want to see some kind of factory historical letter confirming the originality of it.

I still shoot my old 60's Victor from time to time. They always had the best triggers.
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Don't want to hijack this thread, so I will post pictures on another new thread.

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Can you pick the High Standard out of these??
I've been looking for an outstanding example of the early slant grip HSs for a set of Ropers I found several years ago. Just haven't found one nice enough yet.
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Well, four of those aren't even High Standards and none of them are nice enough to wear Ropers...
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Educate me ... identify the 5 pistols. Sal
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I’ve always been a fan of HS pistols but was unaware of the particular variant the OP referenced. This kind of info is part of what keeps this hobby interesting
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The one in the upper right is an early HS Model B. All the others are Hartford Arms Company. The one at the angle on the upper left is a single shot.

High Standard bought Hartford sometime in the early 1930's (??) and just changed the markings on the M1925 Hartford that was in production at the time. (For the most part the parts on the Model B and the M1925 are almost interchangeable.)
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The one in the upper right is an early HS Model B. All the others are Hartford Arms Company. The one at the angle on the upper left is a single shot.

High Standard bought Hartford sometime in the early 1930's (??) and just changed the markings on the M1925 Hartford that was in production at the time. (For the most part the parts on the Model B and the M1925 are almost interchangeable.)
Thank you for the response. I presumed they were Hartfords but thought you might tell me one was some other similar style clone.

I thought Hartford became High Standard in the 1930s, I didn't know HS bought Hartford. So I had mistakenly perceived the Hartfords as High Standards. (e.g. like Moore / National / Colt etc.)

Of my oddest .22 pistols I have a Reising (1921) that I purchased about 30 years ago, SN: 10xx that is just about as near new as I've ever seen. I have never seen another is as nice condition as SN 10xx.

Then a Colt Match Target bullseye SN: Mt75xx (about 90% not near as nice as the Reising) but it came with Roper's on it and a Heiser button top scabbard type holster that helped compensate for the lesser condition.

I always had a soft spot for old .22 Pistols and Revolvers, no matter what the brand name, but as long as it was quality manufactured.

I'm glad to find others that have the same affection for these old .22s.
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