Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > General Topics > Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics

Notices

Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics Post Your General Gun Topics and Non-S&W Gun and Blade Topics Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-20-2018, 10:41 PM
Checkman's Avatar
Checkman Checkman is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 975
Likes: 1,953
Liked 1,545 Times in 334 Posts
Default Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle

Last year my agency decided it was time that we all carried a patrol rifle (as in all officers both uniformed and detectives). What with school shootings and what not.

The Lieutenant in charge of the firearms program went to Daniel Defense and got the estimate for seventy M4 rifles along with the iron sights, aimpoint and weapons lights. They then had another lower estimate with just the iron sights and the light and finally just the iron sights.

The Chief then went in front of the city council and requested $200,000 from the city council. That was the sum required for the top estimate. Admin was prepared to then ask for the lower sums. Everybody figured the council would freak. Instead it passed without a single squawk. So I now carry a patrol rifle with a three point sling, three magazines and a carrying case. Nice rifle. Too rich for my personal finances, but it's kind of neat to have a weapon from the highest bidder.


__________________
I type. Therefore I am.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-21-2018, 06:44 AM
vonn's Avatar
vonn vonn is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: houston,texas
Posts: 7,198
Likes: 124,841
Liked 23,177 Times in 5,749 Posts
Default

Hope you never have to use it but glad they saw fit to not scrimp on critical equipment.
__________________
Hue 68 noli me tangere
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 05-21-2018, 07:14 AM
s&wchad's Avatar
s&wchad s&wchad is offline
Moderator
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Great Lakes State
Posts: 29,939
Likes: 12,830
Liked 34,106 Times in 8,017 Posts
Default

I'm glad you were issued quality gear and I pray that you never need to use it in school.
__________________
"I also cook."
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 05-21-2018, 08:48 AM
billwill's Avatar
billwill billwill is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Mid NC
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 4,874
Liked 5,727 Times in 2,130 Posts
Default

Good stuff for the worst case situation but hope you only use it to qualify once a year.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 05-21-2018, 11:31 AM
JayCeeNC's Avatar
JayCeeNC JayCeeNC is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,007
Likes: 18,967
Liked 3,524 Times in 1,127 Posts
Default

Daniel Defense is a very high quality manufacturer.
My personal AR is a Colt lower with a DD lightweight barrel upper, mid-length gas system.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 05-21-2018, 03:03 PM
Doug M.'s Avatar
Doug M. Doug M. is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,474
Likes: 14,587
Liked 9,313 Times in 3,723 Posts
Default

Quality matters. Buy once, cry once. Bravo for your administration. Seen far too many go cheap.
__________________
NHI, 10-8.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 05-21-2018, 09:49 PM
Whitwabit Whitwabit is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 1,351
Liked 2,660 Times in 1,302 Posts
Default

How much did they allot for training and the ammo required for the training ??
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 05-21-2018, 10:17 PM
okiegtrider's Avatar
okiegtrider okiegtrider is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,928
Likes: 2,548
Liked 3,840 Times in 1,134 Posts
Default

Kudos to your Chief and to the council. Like the rest, hope you never need it.
__________________
America First
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 05-22-2018, 12:35 AM
Checkman's Avatar
Checkman Checkman is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 975
Likes: 1,953
Liked 1,545 Times in 334 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitwabit View Post
How much did they allot for training and the ammo required for the training ??
We've all been to range several times. We've done different types of live fire training as well as building clearing tactics without live ammo.
__________________
I type. Therefore I am.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 05-22-2018, 12:59 AM
Charlie Foxtrott Charlie Foxtrott is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 778
Liked 1,974 Times in 694 Posts
Default Nothing like giving the people the right tool for the job.

Good for you guys, very glad to see it. What kind of duty ammo are they authorizing for you?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #11  
Old 05-22-2018, 01:05 AM
apollo99 apollo99 is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: ARIZONA
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 103
Liked 1,475 Times in 601 Posts
Default

Good for you, good for your Department, good for the council. It is a shame that average patrol law enforcement officers have to be armed with such hardware. Be safe out there and I hope you never have to take that M-4 out of your trunk in the line of duty.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 05-22-2018, 07:29 AM
loc n load loc n load is offline
SWCA Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: S/W Indiana
Posts: 1,500
Likes: 1,923
Liked 2,458 Times in 876 Posts
Default

Top quality rifle with top quality optics. Amazing that got past the council, hard to find that many people nowadays with some common sense.
I am on cadre at our state LE academy. We completed a week long “ Patrol Rifle Instructors” school three weeks ago, we do two per year and they are always full. The M-4 has pretty well replaced the shotgun for LE in this state.
Congrat’s on your new gear. Be safe.

Last edited by loc n load; 05-22-2018 at 07:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #13  
Old 05-22-2018, 07:10 PM
Doug M.'s Avatar
Doug M. Doug M. is offline
Member
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,474
Likes: 14,587
Liked 9,313 Times in 3,723 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by apollo99 View Post
Good for you, good for your Department, good for the council. It is a shame that average patrol law enforcement officers have to be armed with such hardware. Be safe out there and I hope you never have to take that M-4 out of your trunk in the line of duty.
*
I'd be surprised if that rifle does not come out daily. School murders of the type that make the news are pretty uncommon, but there are a lot of calls at which a long gun is the better choice. A pistol is what one carries because they have no reason to expect a problem. If one has reason to expect a problem, the first choice is to be somewhere else. LE does not get that option, so the next best is to take a long gun.

It's a pretty common and reasonable option for LE, and for a large percentage of potential needs, better than the shotgun. If for some odd reason I ended up in uniform again, an 11.5" inch AR with a can, a good light, and an Aimpoint would be just part of the scenery. Contrary to the popular image, more agencies should have had them back in the 80s.
__________________
NHI, 10-8.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #14  
Old 05-22-2018, 08:29 PM
Checkman's Avatar
Checkman Checkman is offline
US Veteran
Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle Daniel Defense M4 patrol rifle  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 975
Likes: 1,953
Liked 1,545 Times in 334 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Foxtrott View Post
Good for you guys, very glad to see it. What kind of duty ammo are they authorizing for you?
Federal TacticalŽ BondedŽ 223 Rem. (5.56x45mm) 62 grain.
__________________
I type. Therefore I am.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Daniel Defense BCG Disabled1 Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 14 06-27-2017 05:57 PM
Daniel Defense Rifle Marshall 357 Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 7 06-05-2015 06:01 PM
M&p 15 vs Daniel defense gmcman66 Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 62 04-21-2015 08:14 PM
Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 LW JordonC2 GUNS - For Sale or Trade 3 01-12-2013 11:34 PM
M&P15 or Daniel Defense? Navarre Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 46 11-24-2012 12:05 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:26 PM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)