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Default Here’s That Savage 99, thanks for the advice!

So I bit the bullet and did it. Couldn’t be happier. It’s an M from 1966 if I dated it right. 24”, lightweight, internal rotary mag and brass counter, 308, damn near PERFECT condition and sweeet sweeet sweeeeet! Thanks all for the great advice I couldn’t possibly be happier about the trade I made into it. This ones a keeper.
(And a Dee Luxe! At that, apparently. Happy day!)
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I think you are going to be happy with that rifle. One of the best
woods game rifles ever made and in 308, you can't go wrong.
I think the spool mag guns with brass counter were the last of
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Congrats! A true classic
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More photos please, a dozen or so will do. :-)

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Anyone can buy a new synthetic bolt gun and stumble around in the woods with it, while you’ll be hunting in style with that one.
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Is that a cartridge counter I see?
Sweeeeeet.
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I see your 99M has a high comb (Monte Carlo?) pistol grip stock the same as my earlier 99M had. However, while yours has a tang safety and standard weight fore end, mine had the safety on the bottom and a fat fore end. Also, mine was chambered for the standard short action .30 caliber cartridge of its day, .300 Savage.

I've always viewed 99s as specialized big game rifles. I hope you get some venison with yours. You'll like it even more if you do.

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Looks like a slick setup. Score.
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Good on you, mate. I've wanted one like that for fifty years, and never got around to it while I was still able to hunt.
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That is one really nice looking Savage 99.
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What did you trade for it?
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What you have is a 99 Savage DL. These with montencarlo stocks were marked R, I assume for the Monte Carlo hump. I had one like it, and it was rough on my jaw. Still a great rifle by any account.
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When my son-in-law died he left my grandson a Model 99 in 250-1000( I think}. It is in excellent condition.
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When my son-in-law died he left my grandson a Model 99 in 250-1000( I think}. It is in excellent condition.
The cartridge was introduced as the .250-3000 to advertised its 3000 fps muzzle velocity which at the time was outstanding. The trouble is to get 3,000 fps they had to drop the bullet weight to 87 grains. The basic idea was to make a longer range deer cartridge than the .30-30 by using a spitzer bullet with a higher ballistic coefficient. At range the cartridge shows better numbers with a 100 grain bullet and even better with the less common 120 grain load.
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What you have is a 99 Savage DL. These with montencarlo stocks were marked R, I assume for the Monte Carlo hump. I had one like it, and it was rough on my jaw. Still a great rifle by any account.
Ah jeez, does this mean i’m Off on the date of production too? I know jack n squat about the gens of these. Thought I had it.
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At least its comb height is correct for the scope. Most 99s were stocked for iron sights. The combination of a high comb and iron sights is hard on my jaw but that is not the case here. That looks like a Leupold 4X. That's a good choice for hunting. I'd have to move it forward to keep it from hitting my eye brow.
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check out the 99 by murry. might help.
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At least its comb height is correct for the scope. Most 99s were stocked for iron sights. The combination of a high comb and iron sights is hard on my jaw but that is not the case here. That looks like a Leupold 4X. That's a good choice for hunting. I'd have to move it forward to keep it from hitting my eye brow.
Leupold 3x. Non variable. Old glass but it’s good. I unfortunately lost a better Leupold 3x variable in the trade. Oh well. Funny you mention it, that 7mm mag scoped me good a couple times over the years. I never got used to that gun nor found the sweet spot.
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Nice rifle. Let us know how it shoots.
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What you have is a 99 Savage DL. These with montencarlo stocks were marked R, I assume for the Monte Carlo hump. I had one like it, and it was rough on my jaw. Still a great rifle by any account.
It’s defintely stamped “M”

Could be a DL though, but the “R” would have safety underneath, and this one’s on the top.
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Like this says....
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It’s defintely stamped “M”

Could be a DL though, but the “R” would have safety underneath, and this one’s on the top.
Sorry. I meant M. It isn't even next to the R. Don't know what I was thinking.
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Nice rifle Mr. Harry! Careful though, Model 99's are highly addictive.

I bought a 1953 99R in .300 Savage several years ago to deer hunt with and before I knew it I had 99's in .303 Savage,.250-3000,.308, .30-30 and a second one in .300 Savage. I'm still not exactly sure how that happened.
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Long time ago I removed the fore end on my 1948 99 Model EG And there was an “EG” Model number stamped there. On another site someone says the Model DL had barrels marked “99M”. And the gold trigger like your .308 being a 1960s feature.
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Long time ago I removed the fore end on my 1948 99 Model EG And there was an “EG” Model number stamped there. On another site someone says the Model DL had barrels marked “99M”. And the gold trigger like your .308 being a 1960s feature.
Pretty sure I have it nailed down between the stamp, serial #, advertised promotion, and list of features. Got me a real sweet one. Thanks guys. It’s a DL -M circa ‘66. Incredible. Love everybody here who told me to do it. Funky pivoting scope too. Shoots awesome. Real tight at 100 yards. The windage was spot on overlapping. The elevation needed adjustment. Seemed to like 150gr Federal stuff the best, but shoulder started getting tired after 40 rounds and fixing the elevation. I will play up in weights with a fresh shoulder soon. The 165’s showed promise.
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I've wondered if DL didn't stand for deluxe, F for featherweight, and E for economy. I've never found any solid evidence of this, but it works for me.


Perhaps EG stood for extra good?


David Royal has recently completed a great book about the Savage 99. I highly recommend it for anyone who has even a passing interest in them. Doug Murray also produced a handy little pocket guide of a book about them.



Arthur Savage was a very interesting man.

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I've wondered if DL didn't stand for deluxe, F for featherweight, and E for economy. I've never found any solid evidence of this, but it works for me.


Perhaps EG stood for extra good?


David Royal has recently completed a great book about the Savage 99. I highly recommend it for anyone who has even a passing interest in them. Doug Murray also produced a handy little pocket guide of a book about them.



Arthur Savage was a very interesting man.
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As you probably know, the .300 Savage died a relatively quick death once Savage started chambering for the then new .308 Winchester. The .300 savage is such a pleasure to shoot that if you reload, I would not hesitate to duplicate .300 Savage ballistics in the .308 Win. flavoring. No big game likely to be hunted with a lever action will ever know the difference.
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Mr. Harry:

I think you're really going to enjoy that rifle. My Savage 99c dates from the 1960s. Even though the action functioned smoothly, I decided one day that it could probably benefit from a detailed cleaning...so working carefully and methodically, I disassembled the piece to clean and oil it. No problems with the disassembly (isn't that almost always the case), and there was quite a bit of dried gunk and dirt internally. Between the time I was cleaning it and prior to reassembly, a couple of guys I know told me that disassembling the rifle was a real mistake, and that reassembly was going to be a nightmare. They encouraged me to order a gunsmithing DVD devoted to the disassembly and reassembly of the Savage 99 rifle. Okay, I placed the order for the DVD, and then turned to the now cleaned and (lightly) oiled rifle pieces. Reassembly was very easy and no real trick at all. I decided to cancel the DVD order and a short time later I received a phone call from the vendor asking if I really wanted to cancel the order. When they asked why I was cancelling, I told them the truth - and that I simply didn't need the DVD. I told the vendor that in my opinion the Savage 99 was an elegantly designed piece, and he agreed.

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It does appear to be a DL. "M", as mentioned above, meant monte carlo stock. Even though it is marked "M", that was never a model designation. One of the eccentric oddities of the 99. Congratulations on a fine rifle. 021
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A man could probably get a college degree in 99 Savages. There's a lot to learn. For a primer, I'd recommend perusing the Savage subforum on 24hourcampfire.com. There are some extremely knowledgeable gentlemen there.
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Yours is a twin to mine in 308. I also have a 358 F and a 243 E.


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I've wondered if DL didn't stand for deluxe, F for featherweight, and E for economy. I've never found any solid evidence of this, but it works for me.


Perhaps EG stood for extra good?


David Royal has recently completed a great book about the Savage 99. I highly recommend it for anyone who has even a passing interest in them. Doug Murray also produced a handy little pocket guide of a book about them.



Arthur Savage was a very interesting man.
I have a 1983 or 84 Guns & Ammo Annual that has a loooong Doug Murray article on the 99. This one article has been my bible on Savage 99s. It includes charts of all the early models and their specific features up to the 20s, the next versions to the 60s or so, and the later tang safety models. There's also tons of text on the history of the gun. So a book by this guy would have to be the definitive word on these guns.
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I have a 1983 or 84 Guns & Ammo Annual that has a loooong Doug Murray article on the 99. This one article has been my bible on Savage 99s. It includes charts of all the early models and their specific features up to the 20s, the next versions to the 60s or so, and the later tang safety models. There's also tons of text on the history of the gun. So a book by this guy would have to be the definitive word on these guns.
It WAS the definitive word on the 99 until David Royals book came out. David filled in a lot of blanks, but Murray was there before anyone else and deserves recognition for the first real informative material in book form. David 's book lists all the serial numbers/dates of manufacture and things that evolved after Murrays book was printed, not to mention it IS a hardcover and has some nice color pictures and lots of other things. I have them both and they are indispensable for 99 collectors.

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