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Old 06-16-2018, 05:02 AM
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I've got a semi-decent 7.65 FEG-made "Hege Waffen" PA66. It needs some company. (It also needs a rebluing or ceracote...mechanically it's flawless....appearance-wise, not so much.)
So I'm looking again...and wondering which I should be focusing on.
Walthers, Manurhins, Sigs, etc. are a bit too spendy for my budget for this kind of gun. It'll be a range toy....I carry either a Shield in 9 or .45 or a Sig 245 or M&P .45 2.0. So what should I be looking at in terms of value, reliability, safety, shootability?
I did a quick cruise though Gunbroker...and I'm wondering should I be considering such as: Tanfoglio, Ortgies, Savage, the CZ 50/70s, or what have you. I won't be thinking of a .380 as it's hard to beat my wife's Shield 380ez or my Sig 250 380.

So what's good out there? Anyone have some experiences with these they'd like to share. (Note: I will be looking at all the higher priced guns and hoping for a "steal," but I'd like to look for a decent shooter in the lower price range.
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Hege is a German importer, so your FEG most likely took a detour through Germany on its way to America.

I used to have a lot of 7,65 pistols but eventually sold all of them. Of the classic guns, I found the Walther/Manurhin PP to be the most pleasant and accurate to shoot. I had Tanfoglio/F.I.E.s in .32 and .380 and while the .32s worked reliable, they had the accuracy of a watering can.

The CZ 50/70s are solidly built but still no frills service weapons.
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Savage, Colt 1903, and Browning/FN would be nice additions.
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I've got a Manurhin PP in .32 that's a nice little gun. Same gun as a Walther PP since Manurhin made most if not all of the post-War Walthers for many years.

But the one gun every .32 fan should own -- heck, maybe one gun every serious gun guy should own -- is the Keltec P32. These are great little guns. Slip it in your back pocket when you take the dog for its morning walk and you're "better than a sharp stick" equipped for things that go badly. This is the gun you carry when you can't carry a gun. The P32 puts the fun back in mouse guns. Quite controllable. Neat gun.

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Had a Keltec .32 neat little gun...... didn't see much use as I also had/have a little Colt Mustang Pocket-lite in .380.

Pricey........ generally used .32 aren't...... not a hot seller vs. the .380

I have a Walther (Interarms) .32 PPK/s stainless..... which was less than $400 ( $380 IIRC) with 4 magazines about 4 years ago.......
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The Beretta Puma .32 a.c.p. is light, accurate, sized just right, and affordable.


Here is a Beretta Puma and a Walther PP.

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The Beretta Puma .32 a.c.p. is light, accurate, sized just right, and affordable.


Here is a Beretta Puma and a Walther PP.
Almost forgot..... one of my first centerfire handguns was a Beretta 70S... in .380.... nice little;extremely well made gun.. so I'd think one in .32 would be a great option.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:58 AM
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Beretta Puma second vote. I have a mauser 1914 in .32 also, and although not on your list its a good fun pistol
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Another vote for the Beretta 70/Puma. I've owned a lot of .32s, and this one is my favorite.





Fantastic trigger, great sights, perfect weight and size, and utterly reliable.
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The Ortgie was designed for the pocket. I've kept one in a pocket for forty years. What can it snag on ? That's why it's known as a pocket pistol.
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The Frommer Stop in 7.65 is expensive but its method of operation is a talking point.
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Don’t forget the NAA Guardian. Available in a range of calibers, displaying NAA’s usual bank-vault quality. Hammer-fired with a long DA pull for safety.
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I would go with Colt (not real cheap) or maybe FN (better re: price) or Beretta if what you want is a shooter.
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Another vote for the Colt 1903.
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How about the Savage 1907 in .32acp
The gun worlds first double stack mag semi-auto pistol.
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I second Ozark Marine's suggestion. You can buy a shooter-grade Savage for $200-$250 all day long. Interesting little gun. I have a number of the 1903 Colts and love them as well. MAB D or FN 1910/1922 are a little snappy, even in .32 ACP. You can find CZ-50s or CZ-70s pretty inexpensively, but the grips are not very comfortable, and mags are HARD to find.
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Another vote for the Colt's 1903.
Few if any other pistols I have shot are as 'intuitive' of an aim as the 1903.
As for the caliber, .32 was a standard in Europe for many years and they are quite deadly...... especially if the shot is well placed.
You are not likely to find a really nice one on the bargain rack, but one in mechanically sound condition would make a nice shooting piece to satisfy your needs in terms of value, reliability, safety, shootability.
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Lots of very nice 32 autos out there. But if your current budget is in the Ortgies and Savage range,,then that's where to look.

The Savage is still undervalued IMO compared to many other pistols of the same era. They can be finiky and break a part or two, but any of them can. Variations are plenty, but a shooter 32 among them can be had quite affordably yet.

The Ortgies is a very simple pistol and usually over looked. They function well. They do have the unique grip safety. The grip safety stays depressed once it is pushed in by your hand. It stays depressed and Off Safe untill you push the small button on the upper left side of the frame which allows the grip safety to pop back out again and back into the SAFE position.
Very sleek, nothing to snag on. Usually can be bought at very reasonable prices in the common 32cal version. Several variations.

The Mauser Model 1914 and Model 1934 both in 32acp can also be found in reasonable condition at less than break the bank prices.
Post WW1 versions of the 1914 Model don't bring the collectors running and can usually be bought at fair prices,,$300 or less.
If Post WW1 Police marked, then they usually bring a bit more.
Some 1934 Models the same. If they don't show pre or WW2 police or Military use, then collector interest is much less.

Just a couple that come to mind.
This used to be a fertile field for the accumulator that was near broke.
32 Autos and revolvers were the cast offs and under $100 generally for most any of them. Not anymore.

Now a Walther, Beretta, Colt, FN ect gets you right into the $600 range and quickly up unless you steal a deal it or it's in collectible paper weight condition.
Sometimes you can still find a deal. That's what keeps us looking.
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Love the Beretta Puma. Had one for years and it nas been absolutely flawless. As an added bonus, you can pick up one of Beretta 71’s, an identical gun (except the lightweight frame) in .22 LR. Rumor is the 71 was once very popular with the Mossad, and my wife loves hers. Both great guns.
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Walther PP, Browning 1910, Colt 1903 and Mauser HSc are all top recommended guns. I had a CZ50/70 but found the weight, balance and trigger pull undesirable. Those little .32 ACP cases are tough to find out in the grass.
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Right now, surplus Zastava M70 rigs, (holster, 2 mags, cleaning brush) are available in very-good to unissued condition from $250 to $350 depending on condition and who is selling. I think that's a great price for a collectible rig, not yet on the secondary market.
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Right now, surplus Zastava M70 rigs, (holster, 2 mags, cleaning brush) are available in very-good to unissued condition from $250 to $350 depending on condition and who is selling. I think that's a great price for a collectible rig, not yet on the secondary market.

How could I forget the M70, I own one! Duh! It is a large, all steel brick of a 7.65 with essentially no recoil.
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Here’s what I have in 32ACP: A 1914 Mauser from 1915, a Walther PP from 1929 and a Colt 1903 from 1925. The Mausers are the least spendy and can be found fairly common. 32 is fun to shoot, and easy to shoot well.
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My experience with 32 auto pistols is very limited. Saur 38H and Manhurin Walther PP both in 32 auto.Both were very accurate with Federal ball ammunition. But the best of the two was the Manhurin/Walther PP. Remember that the 32acp pistols were used for personal protection at short ranges. In my limited experience 15 yards was the max these little pistols proved their worth. Up close and personal probably be a better description. The little PP and the 38H would benefit with higher and larger front and rear sights. The Micro sight company used to make a set of sights for the Walther but haven't been in business for many years now.Frank
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I found my Walther PP .32 to shoot very well at 25 yards.
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The already mentioned Walther PP is a great gun as is the Beretta Model 1935, the official pistol of the Italian Air Force and Navy in WW2.
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You might be able to find a Sig P230 or P232 in 32 auto for a decent price.
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I have four .32s. Two Walthers: PP & PPK/s, a Colt 1903 and a Savage 1907.
The .32 isn't real popular these days and any of these can be found in shooter grades at very reasonable prices.
The Walther PP is the best shooter. The last time I took it to the range, a guy tried to buy it on the spot.
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I have four .32s. Two Walthers: PP & PPK/s, a Colt 1903 and a Savage 1907.
The .32 isn't real popular these days and any of these can be found in shooter grades at very reasonable prices.
The Walther PP is the best shooter. The last time I took it to the range, a guy tried to buy it on the spot.
I wish you would show me where to find a reasonably priced Colt 1903. Everyone I've seen lately was tagged for big bucks!
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Savage 32’s are fun. My favorite .32, though, is a CZ 83 - double stack magazine and too much fun to shoot!



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My favorite modern .32's are the Beretta 81 and 82, double and single stack, respectively. I've got the old round trigger guard models. They're too big for the caliber, but feel great in the hand. I found these to be great to use for teaching new shooters the handling of a semi-auto pistol for the first time.

The WWII era steel frame guns are also great shooters, but many need the European CIP loads or equivalent handloads to function properly. I have and like to shoot the Colt 1903, Beretta 1935, CZ27, and Walther PP. They are fairly heavy for their size.

I sometimes carry an FN 1910 in a pocket holster with RWS CIP factory loads (it's only 3/4" wide and <20oz loaded). Those are hottest current 73gr loads I've been able to find, and my particular pistol shoots every time with them. These little pistols have very stout magazine springs.

I had a Mauser HSc and a Sauer 38h but sold them because they didn't feel as good in my hand as the others.
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I acquired this Colt M1903 in .32ACP a few years ago that was manufactured in 1921. I don't think it had been fired more than a few times and was in excellent condition . . . except for one thing. It had been sitting in a sock drawer for a few decades and the top side of the gun looked factory new, but the bottom side that it had been sitting on had obviously been exposed to a little moisture through the years and the finish had deteriorated.

I bought it on the cheap and sent it off to a guy to have it bead blasted and parkerized. It's now one of my regular shooters, and it seems to be my wife's go to varmint gun for snakes and skunks and such around the place, she likes it better than a .22 LR.

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Walther PPK
Mine was stolen in 1995 and I still wish I had it back.
Attempted to replace it with a Beretta but the new Tomcat couldn't hold a candle to the old WWII made PPK . The only gun I ever disposed of was that 32 acp Beretta
That 1903 Colt in post #32 sure looks sweet !
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Here are two of mine - I also have a Beretta 1935, but I don't carry it.

I carried the Beretta today, and I often carry the Colt.

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I have a CZ 70 in .32 that's been reliable. Mine came from a gun show for $200. I think the CZ 70 and CZ 50 can be had on line for under $250.
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Only 32 ACP I have now is a CZ 70 made in Czechoslovakia Interarms inport.
Copy of a Wather PP.
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I carried a Beretta Tomcat as an off duty/backup sidearm for about a year with no issues. Sold it to an officer I work with and did not own a .32 for quite a while.

Now own a J P Saur 38H, a Savage 1907(that was purchased by France during WW1), and a Colt 1903 (overpaid big time).

Of the three, if I had to carry one, I would choose the 38H. Sights are superior, trigger is OK, groups very well. Not sure about hollow points and feeding. It was way ahead of its time.
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I have quite a few .32 ACP or 7.65 mm guns. One of my favorites is the Colt 1903. I also have a CZ 50, a CZ 70, a Walther PPK, a Beretta Tomcat, and probably some that aren't coming to mind this late!!

Here is my Colt 1903:



But for a carry gun, I think the Beretta Tomcat would be the most affordable and available.

Here's my Tomcat, rode in my glovebox for about twenty years....still in pretty good shape:



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If you're looking for affordable .32s, I've been able to pick up a Savage 1907, CZ 27 and Mauser 1914 for around $200 or less, each. Interesting little guns.
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1910 F.N. or Browning
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Hard to beat the original 51 Remington (not the recent abomination they foisted upon the public).
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Beretta 1935. Simple, strong, well made. Will outlast you.
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My vote is for the Beretta 70. Light, small, cheap & shoots better than my PPKs. The next choice would be my Colt 1903 or my FN 1900.

32 acp is a class of guns that are so small & different that I enjoy collecting them.
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At one time I had a near-complete collection of all variations of pre-WWII American-made pocket pistols in .32 ACP and .380. I sold most of them off over 20 years ago. But I did keep the Remington 51s and the Savages in both calibers, along with a minty Browning 1900. Why did I keep those? Because they are the best .32s and .380s made at that time. I kept the Browning for historical purposes - it was the very first .32 and the very first pistol of Browning's patented blowback design. It also shoots very well (before someone points it out as an erroneous statement, I know there was also a Browning 1899, but it is essentially identical to the 1900).
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I love my Walther PP, which is a former police issue from the German state of Bavaria. Very nice shooter.
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