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Old 08-28-2018, 01:37 PM
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I bought a conversion cylinder for my old army ruger which fit perfect drop-in. I am using care in reloading for it until I get used to it. Anyone else shooting this set-up? Any tips welcome. Superblackhawk ruger pictured
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Looks just like a stainless SBH! When did they drop the loading lever?
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I have the same setup. According to the literature with mine, it is limited to "cowboy" level ammo. It shoots fine ; however, I haven't shot it that much.
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I would like to see them make a cylinder in .45ACP for the Old Army. A lot cheaper than shooting .45 LC
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Don't go shooting any of the overpressure loads out of it without direct confirmation from Ruger that it's safe to do so.

I know a lot of the overpressure loads are marked "Ruger Only" on the box, but that's honestly a terribly inaccurate statement because not all Rugers are designed to handle overpressure loads.

That being said, there's no valid reason to go shooting overpressure ammo anyway unless you plan on hunting Polar Bears with it, as such ammo is extremely expensive and isn't exactly what most folks would call "fun" to shoot.
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A "cowboy" load would be a 250 gn bullet doing about 850 fps - nothing to sneer at. For more fun load those 45 Colt cartridges with black powder. You'll probably do a little better than 850 fps.
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That looks like a Taylor's conversion cylinder. If so they say don't
go over 850FPS. So if it's that range, Cowboy action stuff would
run fine.

Link to Taylors:

Ruger Old Army Stainless Steel Conversion Cylinder
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This is just a question out of curiosity, when you convert a modern cap and ball revolver to shoot cartridges are there any legal issues involved?

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I think the only issue would be mailing it through the post office
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This is just a question out of curiosity, when you convert a modern cap and ball revolver to shoot cartridges are there any legal issues involved?
Not in most states. CA and MA are likely exceptions.

Owning and using them is perfectly legal. If I was going to sell one, I would probably sell the cap and ball set up as originally shipped in one transaction, then the conversion cylinder as a separate transaction just to ere on the extreme side of caution.
That way the new owner would be free to choose to do his own conversion and you wouldn't even be selling a 'firearm' by BATFE or GCA definition.

Since I've never heard of one of these conversion cylinder guns being used in a crime, it isn't even an area of discussion. I look at them as mostly a novelty.
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I have a 45 acp cylinder for one of mine. Not sure of manufacturer unlessI go look.
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I would like to see them make a cylinder in .45ACP for the Old Army. A lot cheaper than shooting .45 LC
Actually they do and I have one in my Old Army. A much better
choice than the .45 LC for light handloads in my opinion. I'll
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Actually they do and I have one in my Old Army. A much better
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Well FIND IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I use a Taylor's 45LC conversion cylinder in my Pietta 44. works perfectly. I only use std loads with it.
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Well FIND IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taylor markets the conversion cyls but it's best to deal directly
with the manufacturer as I did. That way you can achieve a
perfect fit if a little fitting is required.
Check them out at www.Howelloldwestconversions.com.
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Don't go shooting any of the overpressure loads out of it without direct confirmation from Ruger that it's safe to do so....
I'd bet my last dollar that Ruger's legal team would never allow approval of any aftermarket conversions.

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