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Old 09-13-2018, 09:42 PM
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I searched and for the life of me I cannot find the website that had the drawings of the different Spanish revolver manufacturers. So I come to you for help. Which company is this?
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Trade mark of: Suinaga Y Aramberri, Eibar

The bbl is usually marked with the above 'address'

Here's an old auction (2007) from ?? for a .38cal revolver made by them.
It shows both trade mark and the bbl address.

Pictures: Spanish Made .38 Long Suinaga Y Aramberri Eibar - 8359271
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I have a very nice copy of a S&W lemon squeezer made my Aramberri. In .38 S&W. I rather like the firearms produced in Eibar.
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Amberri .38 S&W. Copy of S&W lemon squeezer.
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Interesting trade mark. The "wings" on the letter A make it pretty obvious that it was intentionally made to closely resemble the S&W trade mark. Enough to be mistaken for it at a glance.

Looking at the gun in the link posted by 2152hq, and the photos posted by TomkinsSP it is pretty obvious these "copies" were meant to pass for the real thing. The only glaring visual clue that they aren't S&Ws is the more squared shape of the trigger guards.

I'd be interested in seeing one in person. I've heard a lot about the hit-or-miss quality of the multitude of manufacturers from the Eibar region of Spain. Apparently some were quite good and some quite poor.
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Interesting trade mark. The "wings" on the letter A make it pretty obvious that it was intentionally made to closely resemble the S&W trade mark. Enough to be mistaken for it at a glance.

Looking at the gun in the link posted by 2152hq, and the photos posted by TomkinsSP it is pretty obvious these "copies" were meant to pass for the real thing...
The gun makers of the Basque country of Northern Spain, centered around the city of Eibar, who had been producing arms since the late Middle Ages, took advantage of a quirk of early Spanish patent law: patents were only valid if the patent holder actually started production in Spain within a few (I think 3) years.

Since John M. Browning never produced his 1903 patent pistol in Spain, Eibar gun makers produced hundreds of thousands of Ruby pistols, a copy of the Browning design, for France, Italy, and Rumania during WW I.

The S&W and Colt copies produced in peacetime in the 1920s were not marketable in the North American and European markets, because of the patent issues, but mostly went to Latin America where Yanqui guns were much in demand and nobody asked questions.

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I have only been able to exercise my constitutional right to collect firearms for the last 15 years or so. (Funny, the State of New York does not interpret the First to mean you can speak your mind for 20 minutes a day, write what you wish in 140 characters or less, the right to celebrate Christmas or Yom Kippur but not both, or the right to seek redress for governmental wrongs, but only one at a time.) Oops, sorry.

My point was, the guns made in Eibar by small manufacturers are 100 (Ruby) to 40 (Star) years old, the ones that are still around are probably the good ones, and the junk are in landfills, been recycled etc...
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The More I handle these guns the more I realize that many of them were probably fine for what they were made for. I would bet many people use the wrong load for them.
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