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Old 09-20-2018, 07:50 PM
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A few months ago I decided to convert one of my Swedish M96's into a faux M41B sniper rifle for use in the CMP vintage sniper match. I bought an Accumount scope base and mount and sent it off to a trusted gunsmith.

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Because the my smith is a great craftsman, he is busy and the process took a few months. During these few months a real M41B turned up on an online estate auction and I glommed it.

The auction pics were few and not that great and the description very spare, but I bid accordingly.

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Description advised that it is a "Mauser Carl Gustafs 1899 Sniper Rifle".

In due time, the rifle arrived at my FFL and I got a chance to grab a few pictures before it went into the safe for the 10 day "cooling off" period.

It looks legit...

Bolt is blued and matching (body). The bolt sleeve, cocking piece and safety match each other, but not the bolt body.



There is an M55 adjustable rear sight mounted



Base and scope mount serial number match (19530) and appear to be correct for the receiver date (1899)


Stock apprear to be beech replacement (common for these rifles, I'm told) and has a single crown cartouche behind the trigger guard.



Scope and mount appear to be correct for the M41B


A few posters on other sites seem to think that all appears in order, but does anyone see anything out of place?

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Old 09-21-2018, 03:32 AM
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Nice!! Where do you live? I've never heard of a "cooling off" period required for 100+ yr old milsurp rifles!!

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Old 09-21-2018, 07:17 AM
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When you are able a range report would be nice. Hope it shoots as well as it looks.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:22 AM
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She's legit. The only problem, and it's a minor one, is the crown stamp on the stock. An m/41 or m/41B should have a Crown S stamp on the wrist for Stockholm Tygstation were the majority of these were built. Occasionally you'll see one with a Crown stamp with another letter donating another government arsenal, perhaps a stock replacement. The aluminum plate on the mount is a plus, it indicates the last time your sniper was worked over by an arsenal, 1972. I wouldn't sweat the crown stamp, perhaps Sven had a few too many Aquavits the night before and was being forgetful.
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Always wanted a real one but settled for 1 1/2” graoups at 100yds from a standard m96 chain no scope using S&B ammo. Samco global arms was towards the end were kit bashing then from parts. Happy I found two m94’s.
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I foolishly "sporterized" a near-perfect M94. But they were cheap milsurps back then. I still have a very good M96 but haven't fired it very much. I really should. I recently saw at a gun show a complete M41 setup, it looked authentic. I don't remember the price.

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Nice!! Where do you live? I've never heard of a "cooling off" period required for 100+ yr old milsurp rifles!!

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Thanks! Commiefornia.

I tried to convince my FFL that I was sufficiently dispassionate to take the rifle immediately...no dice.
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When you are able a range report would be nice. Hope it shoots as well as it looks.
Thanks, vonn. Will do on the range report.
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Old 09-22-2018, 11:15 PM
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She's legit. The only problem, and it's a minor one, is the crown stamp on the stock. An m/41 or m/41B should have a Crown S stamp on the wrist for Stockholm Tygstation were the majority of these were built. Occasionally you'll see one with a Crown stamp with another letter donating another government arsenal, perhaps a stock replacement. The aluminum plate on the mount is a plus, it indicates the last time your sniper was worked over by an arsenal, 1972. I wouldn't sweat the crown stamp, perhaps Sven had a few too many Aquavits the night before and was being forgetful.
Thanks, sheepdawg! I converted a nice M96 (I know, I'm a terrible person) and noted that it has a crown O cartouche on the stock.

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Always wanted a real one but settled for 1 1/2” graoups at 100yds from a standard m96 chain no scope using S&B ammo. Samco global arms was towards the end were kit bashing then from parts. Happy I found two m94’s.
I've got several m96's and they are great rifles. I converted one to a faux M41B (before I got this one) and it shot about 1.5 MOA groups with Prvi Partizan 120 gr "match" ammo with iron sights.

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I foolishly "sporterized" a near-perfect M94. But they were cheap milsurps back then. I still have a very good M96 but haven't fired it very much. I really should. I recently saw at a gun show a complete M41 setup, it looked authentic. I don't remember the price.
Those M96's are accurate rifles.
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Old 09-25-2018, 08:41 PM
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I found two bubba m94 spotters, and found two m94 stock sets with metal to turn back bubbas bad doings. I love slapping bubbas.
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I finally cooled off enough to pick up my Swedish M41B






I'll attempt a range trip tomorrow.
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I had my "faux" m41b and my "real" m41b out and thought a few pictures were in order...







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Thanks for sharing with us. I have a few milsurp rifles, but nothing like this!! Sweet!!

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That turned out great! My experience with Mauser actions has always been good. The rifles tend to be very accurate to begin with and adding a scope really brings out their potential.
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I bought a M41b more than 20 years ago and shoot it every now and then. I'm always intrigued by the accuracy and the soft shooting of this gun. With a good matchgrade ammo you should get sub-moa groups at 100 yards. The scope quality is superb even after nearly 80 years of age (weird: Nazi German optics delivered to neutral Sweden in wartime 1941...)
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The scope quality is superb even after nearly 80 years of age (weird: Nazi German optics delivered to neutral Sweden in wartime 1941...)
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In 1941 Sweden was one of Germany's main sources for top grade iron ore. The Germans used some military equipment to pay for this iron ore. When things started going bad for the Germans they stopped sending these parts and the Swedes had to start producing their own optics hence the AGA 42 and 44 scopes on m/41 snipers.
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In 1941 Sweden was one of Germany's main sources for top grade iron ore. The Germans used some military equipment to pay for this iron ore. When things started going bad for the Germans they stopped sending these parts and the Swedes had to start producing their own optics hence the AGA 42 and 44 scopes on m/41 snipers.
It is said that De Havilland Mosquitoes in civilian colors used to make runs to Sweden for ball bearings. Supposedly the BOAC and Lufthansa pilots got very good at ignoring each other.
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That turned out great! My experience with Mauser actions has always been good. The rifles tend to be very accurate to begin with and adding a scope really brings out their potential.
My experience exactly. I've always had problems with the Mauser's "inverted triangle" sight. The Swedes used a squared off blade which helps me. But there is nothing quite like a scope for 64 year old eyes.

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I bought a M41b more than 20 years ago and shoot it every now and then. I'm always intrigued by the accuracy and the soft shooting of this gun. With a good matchgrade ammo you should get sub-moa groups at 100 yards. The scope quality is superb even after nearly 80 years of age (weird: Nazi German optics delivered to neutral Sweden in wartime 1941...)
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Thanks, Ulrich!

The cool thing about the scope on M41B Swedish sniper rifles, like this one, is that when the Swede's upgraded their M41 sniper rifles to the "B" standard in the mid-1950's, they upgraded the AJACK scopes by replacing the original uncoated lenses with coated lenses. The view through the scope, even now, is simply amazing.
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