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Old 12-10-2018, 08:14 AM
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I have the Tac-14 with the ergo adapter that accepts an AR pistol buffer tube and an SB tactical mini brace on it. it IS a bad*** and would think it would do most anything within the acceptable limitations of 12ga ammo. shot a 5" group at 50yds with ranger 7/8oz slugs, and can hit clays out quite a ways too. i understand a shotguns limitations, and would only employ it as such... i love mine.
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Very interesting thread. Before the patrol rifle, the short barreled shotgun was the LE long gun of choice. Many drug raids, other search warrant activities, personal protection details, security details, and stakeouts were carried out using 14 inch and shorter shotguns, including many with pistol or bird heads grips. It is an effective but limited weapon. It also requires a fair amount of training to make it effective. It is not the weapon you hand to the most junior guy on the assumption that if he could use the patrol shotgun with a stock, he was good to go !!!

The thing I found most interesting is the number of lasers being used. Those weren't available in my on-duty days. I need to give that some thought. My gut says I would not want to shorten the training and depend totally on technology that could fail at a crucial time.
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Old 04-10-2020, 04:10 AM
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Very interesting thread. Before the patrol rifle, the short barreled shotgun was the LE long gun of choice. Many drug raids, other search warrant activities, personal protection details, security details, and stakeouts were carried out using 14 inch and shorter shotguns, including many with pistol or bird heads grips. It is an effective but limited weapon. It also requires a fair amount of training to make it effective. It is not the weapon you hand to the most junior guy on the assumption that if he could use the patrol shotgun with a stock, he was good to go !!!

The thing I found most interesting is the number of lasers being used. Those weren't available in my on-duty days. I need to give that some thought. My gut says I would not want to shorten the training and depend totally on technology that could fail at a crucial time.
I have a Shockwave in 12 gauge.
I'm not a big guy (5'7, 175), nor am I all that experienced with regular shotguns. I've shot them, but I'm more of a pistol and rifle guy.

That all being said, the technique shown in the videos above, works.
Combine that with the Opsol adapter and some minishells (Brownells had the Challenger brand on clearance, I bought a bunch of both target and slugs), and it's pretty easy to shoot accurately at reasonable distances. The Opsol cycles those shells flawlessly, so they give you 8 instead of 5 in the tube. The key is to thrust that out like a bayonet, keeping your non-trigger arm straight.
The gun will move about an inch or so (for me), plenty of safe distance to keep your eye on the bead. Seems like the trick is to rack by shoving your trigger hand forward, instead of drawing the other one back.

Once you get into the habit of doing that, it's easy. And very effective.
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Hmmm
I have a Tac 14 and would have never contemplated using it for hunting. Other than hitting an occasional liquor store, for me it’s purely a home defense gun. I like having the right tool for the job, and the shockwave and Tac 14 aren’t my idea of a deer gun. I am confident the engineers at Mossberg and Remington would agree.

I did, however, enjoy the video. Well produced and the scenery sublime.
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like many firearms,its usually the guys who never owned one who are the haters.I`ve noticed this time after time.
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I like a 20 gauge 870 youth model for home defense, which includes coyotes that might try to get my daughters Yorkie terrier. I buy the 5 pack of #3 Buckshot from Walmart which will drop a coyote nicely but I've used 3 inch magnum #4 birdshot and hit a yote solid in the shoulder at 10 yards running and he didn't even slow down. My shotgun is light and easy to hold in one hand and I can shoot it one handed if needed, while opening doors checking for a home invader. I once even shot a dove one handed with it because I was picking up another dove I had shot when one flew over.

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Old 04-10-2020, 09:03 AM
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If short barrelled shotguns weren't NFA items, would the Shockwave even exist? Or would this thread be about short barrelled shotguns and their utility?
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