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I'm considering a 10mm Automatic. The candidates are a Megastar 10mm and a RIA 1911A2 FS-HC. Both are high-capacity 10mms built for robust 10mm loads. I'm just polling to see if you had a choice I have, which you'd pick and why.
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I am a BIG fan of the 10MM Auto cartridge. I have been shooting and hand loading the cartridge for more than 3 decades now

If the choice was between just those two, I would go for the RIA. This is mostly because 1911 based parts and magazines are pretty easy to come by . . . Spare MegaStar parts and magazines are not
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Neither. How about something made here? Kimber makes 10mm 1911s.
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I have an EAA Witness, 14 in the mag.. same ergonomics as a CZ.. but CZ doesn't offer a 10mm..and several thousand down the pipe and completely reliable.
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I agree with M29, don't know about the Megastar, but I know the RIA is made in Korea, Taiwan? I'd spend a little more and get the Kimber, Colt or one of the may other local choices and get a much superior gun and financially support our guys to boot. jmo
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Neither. How about something made here? Kimber makes 10mm 1911s.
Well I have Tanfaglio EAA Witness 10mm and a S&W 1006. I want something a bit different and frankly "cool." I don't have pistols breaking on me much so spares are nice but you're right, not many are out there, even from Numrich. The RIA isn't a full on 1911, it doesn't have the front barrel bushing and comes apart like a S&W classic automatic. The Megastar is old school and vintage but admittedly, much akin to my EAA 10mm in its features and construction. In fact, the Megastar and the EAA are based off the CZ75 action.
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Having to find and pay for magazines for the 10mm MegaStar would be a nasty situation for anyone to put themselves in.
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I have an EAA Witness, 14 in the mag.. same ergonomics as a CZ.. but CZ doesn't offer a 10mm..and several thousand down the pipe and completely reliable.
I agree with bigggbbruce here . . . if you are willing to look outside of your two initial choices the EAA line of Witness pistols does have some fantastic offerings at very reasonable prices.

I have three of them at the moment that are chambered for the 10MM Auto cartridge. All of the pistols use the 15 round magazines that are easy to come by and are reasonably priced. I usually just pick up some Mec-Gars to go along with the pistols.

While the prices have gone up, the Elite Match is a superb medium priced firearm. Mine is one of the older ones from before they changed to the frame with the rail. I like these lines better


The Elite Limited is a bit more pricey, but truly a pleasure to shoot. The added weight of the full length dust cover and magazine funnel along with a superb SAO trigger make this a fast shooting pleasure. This model has a SuperSight which is their version of the Bomar




Then there is the HUNTER. I just think these are cool looking. A six inch barrel eeks out just a bit extra velocity. It has the very fin SuperSight and the Single Action Only trigger

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Buy something that retains value once you drive it off the lot... Sig 220, STI or Dan Wesson would be my pick. I bought the Sig and a STI and have never looked back.
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Those are some elegant pistols. If I were ever to venture outside a traditional 1911 platform, those edgy EAA's are where I'd go.
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I agree with neither....only choice in my mind: Sig P220 10mm, either legion or the sigle action variants. Big solid heavy gun, accurate and good looking.
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Plus one on the Elite Match from EAA. Great ergonomics- my shooting buddy keeps trying to pry it away from me.

That being said, I have a Kimber 10mm that is great.


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I agree with M29, don't know about the Megastar, but I know the RIA is made in Korea, Taiwan? I'd spend a little more and get the Kimber, Colt or one of the may other local choices and get a much superior gun and financially support our guys to boot. jmo
The RIAs are made in the Philippines.

They are extremely well built 1911s that just happen to be offered at reasonable prices


I own and shoot a couple of them including the one pictured above that is chambered for the 22TCM cartridge

The man that runs the Company and is responsible for bringing them to the US Market is very approachable and open to suggestions. Their product line has become more robust as some of those suggestions have been implemented
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Here is my newest 10mm.

A Les Baer Custom Premier II Hunter, 6".

Someone pointed out that the picture is of a 5" LBC. I sold it to get the 6", here it is.
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How about a full size S&W 1006?
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A Les Baer Custom Premier II Hunter, 6"
Very nice addition to your Family.

You know my passion for the 10MM Auto Cartridge along with the 1911 platform (especially Long Slides). Well those two things led me to build up this long slide a few summmers back

It has a nice fitted 6" Briley barrel and spherical bushing, an Aristoract sight that can hold three different sight settingS, the trigger bow is fitted with ball bearings to reduce the friction in the channel. It has a 100% safe and repeatable 2 3/4 lb break Esmeralda did the Hammer of THOR scrimshaw work (love her work) on the grips.

This thing shoots like a dream

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The RIAs are made in the Philippines.

They are extremely well built 1911s that just happen to be offered at reasonable prices


I own and shoot a couple of them including the one pictured above that is chambered for the 22TCM cartridge

The man that runs the Company and is responsible for bringing them to the US Market is very approachable and open to suggestions. Their product line has become more robust as some of those suggestions have been implemented
They get great reviews on the Colt forum, the only complaint they ever get is there fit and finish might not be up there with some of the higher lines.
I'm merely speaking from hearsay as I've never owned one, but in the same breath they do give them good praises.
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I have owned a couple different Delta Elites and have my 1006. A sleeper in the 10 mm world is the Ruger SR 1911 10mm. I was reluctant at first but mine has proven to be an outstanding addition. I haven't had the first hick-up with about ten different factory loads and a dozen of my handloads. I probably have 600-700 rounds through it and no problems. I recently found that it loves the Sig Sauer 10mm ammunition and that is all I am feeding it for serious loads now. The price point isn't too far off of the RIA.

I have been impressed with this pistol.
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I’m looking at the RIA Ultra non rail commander size(model 51993) right now, but the Dan Wesson keeps drawing me back.
I really just want a field gun when out whitetail hunting, so the Rock seems more appropriate.
I do have a 1006 and two 1076’s but they’re too purty for field use, imo.
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Oooookay..... this thread has jumped the tracks so bad I'm going to need a railway crew to get it on the rails again. The choices here are the Megastar 10mm and the RIA 1911-A2 fs hc Ultra 10mm. I'm looking at something affordable that isn't a polymer framed handgun. I don't want to drop 1000-bucks on a hole puncher.
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Between the two:buy the RIA 1911-A2.
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Oooookay..... this thread has jumped the tracks so bad I'm going to need a railway crew to get it on the rails again. The choices here are the Megastar 10mm and the RIA 1911-A2 fs hc Ultra 10mm. I'm looking at something affordable that isn't a polymer framed handgun. I don't want to drop 1000-bucks on a hole puncher.
My original post still stands.

Between these two the RIA is the way to go
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Have had great experiences with RIA, my latest being a .38 Super.
If they had offered a 10mm when I wanted one, I'd have probably gone that route - but instead I have a Colt SS Delta Elite.

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Well I have a Glock model 40 so there. But I do have a RIA ,45 ACP officers model and I've been very impressed with it. So my nod goes to the RIA. So what are the RIA 10s going for?

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Neither! Glock 20. What the Danish Dog Sled Patrol uses is good enough for me. (And I live in grizzly country!).

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Neither! Glock 20. What the Danish Dog Sled Patrol uses is good enough for me. (And I live in grizzly country!).

I know=off topic! Sorry!
Danish Dog Sled Patrol? Id be more interested in what the Swedish Bikini Team carries, I think.

If its A or B only, I guess Id go with the RIA - begrudgingly.
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Oooookay..... this thread has jumped the tracks so bad I'm going to need a railway crew to get it on the rails again. The choices here are the Megastar 10mm and the RIA 1911-A2 fs hc Ultra 10mm. I'm looking at something affordable that isn't a polymer framed handgun. I don't want to drop 1000-bucks on a hole puncher.
Star quality was hit and miss. With luck you can get a good Star but if you are not lucky there are few parts available and no manufacturer's support. I've owned 4 Star auto pistols, 3 jam queens and one that was only both accurate and reliable with with a carefully developed unusual reload. The latter developed problems from its too soft steel. Your odds are better buying a Spainish military or police surplus Star than one that was made to sell to the U.S. civilian market. Also, Stars came with only one magazine and a second cost $40 30 years ago. Enough said?

I have not owned a 1911 from the Philippines. One might be the best all steel pistol that is within your budget but you have not written what your budget is. I'd be shopping for a used Ruger SR 1911. That way if I got unlucky I'd have factory support.

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Everything that I know about 10mm would fit in a thimble with room left for my rear end, but I do not hesitate to buy from Rock Island or their affiliated manufacturers. I have had some Star milsurps and they are the most delicate and fussy handguns that I have. I would have low confidence in a Star with a higher pressure than 9mm.
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Oooookay..... this thread has jumped the tracks so bad I'm going to need a railway crew to get it on the rails again. The choices here are the Megastar 10mm and the RIA 1911-A2 fs hc Ultra 10mm. I'm looking at something affordable that isn't a polymer framed handgun. I don't want to drop 1000-bucks on a hole puncher.


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The RIA is the way to go in the long term for spares support and magazines. Are they making a longslide? If I were going for a high pressure cartridge like 10 mm I'd want all the barrel I could carry.

The Megastar is a fascinating pistol, I have one in 45 ACP, and I can't see anybody wearing one out. Everything is built on such a huge scale. However, spares are unobtanium although 45 and 10 mm mags are the same. Numrich had some last year.
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I have an EAA Witness, 14 in the mag.. same ergonomics as a CZ.. but CZ doesn't offer a 10mm..and several thousand down the pipe and completely reliable.
WHAT HE SAID! I too have a Witness 10mm(go with the steel frame, not the poly) and love it. Reliable and accurate and the grip soaks up the recoil by distributing it all over your hand, not just between your thumb and trigger finger like some do. I also have the Rock Island fs-hc and love it as well. It's large grip also soaks up recoil but can be too large for some. Mags and parts are available from Advanced Tactical and mag extensions are available which give me 20+1. Now thats a fist full of firepower.
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I am considering the RIA 10mm and the Megastar but for different reasons:

The Megastar is old-school, vintage, and out of production. Its an all-steel heavy nickel-plate 10mm high-cap blaster. It looks like something Arny would carry if he were young enough to make Terminator movies. Its big, its bulky, its cool looking and its retro. It was built to use heavy high-energy 10mm loads, not the watered down 10mm, and keep running.

The RIA is equally cool looking, current production so parts and extras are available. It has more features such as the adjustable rear and fiber-optic front sights, adjustable trigger pull, and again, has a fairly bad-*** visual profile.

I love metal frame firearms and have no love for polymer, though admittedly I use a Glock for home defense and have some old school polymers like an original Walther P99 and my old S&W Sigma car gun. At the time, I wanted something that wouldn't break my heart if it were confiscated after a self-defense incident.

Who DOESN'T get a firearm partly for its looks? Both candidates are 'manly' looking firearms. Glocks are fine service weapons but are black-brick firearms, nothing of merit or consequence save for their undeniable reliability in a pinch and utterly massive array of addons. Aside from the occasional Glock exploding, polymer's fine, right?
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I have to ask, do you have a line on a 10 mm Megastar? Fewer than 1000 were ever made according to the cognoscenti on Gunboards.

In 45 ACP it is said they produced 5424.
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I am considering the RIA 10mm and the Megastar but for different reasons:

The Megastar ... It was built to use heavy high-energy 10mm loads, not the watered down 10mm, and keep running.

The RIA ... It has more features such as the adjustable rear and fiber-optic front sights, adjustable trigger pull...

Who DOESN'T get a firearm partly for its looks? ...
Im confused by all of this and probably shouldnt ask but, where do these things come from? Are you in touch with the design engineers at Star? On the RIA, are you confusing an overtravel stop with an adjustable trigger? As to looks, based on looks alone, neither of these guns give me an impression of high quality. Production based on price-point, yes. I have no experience with either gun but would hate to see you buy based on unsupported impressions.
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Im confused by all of this and probably shouldnt ask but, where do these things come from? Are you in touch with the design engineers at Star? On the RIA, are you confusing an overtravel stop with an adjustable trigger? As to looks, based on looks alone, neither of these guns give me an impression of high quality. Production based on price-point, yes. I have no experience with either gun but would hate to see you buy based on unsupported impressions.
Reading reviews and feedback from owners that have taken the time to share their experiences on YouTube and forums. Who are you? Adam Conover?
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I think the RIA would be my choice. I have one & like it. Holsters are easy to find for a 1911.

I also have a Sig 220 & a S&W in 10mm. The RIA shoots as good or better than the more expensive guns. There are others out there that cost more than the RIA but none any better.
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I think I would choose the Megastar. I like the classic looks and the inverted rails.
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I would try and get your name on the list for a CSP...
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Danish Dog Sled Patrol? Id be more interested in what the Swedish Bikini Team carries, I think.

If its A or B only, I guess Id go with the RIA - begrudgingly.
The G20 is issued to these guys for daily protection from polar bears when on 4 month 2 man patrols in the Arctic. Back to regularly scheduled programming!
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Between the two:buy the RIA 1911-A2.
But,if I was going to buy a 10m/m it would be a Glock 20 w/ the factory 6" bbl. as a second bbl.
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I have 2 10mm's one is a Auto Ord 1911 ***, and a Glock 40 longslide which is tough, accurate and *****. Love it!
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Oooookay..... this thread has jumped the tracks so bad I'm going to need a railway crew to get it on the rails again. The choices here are the Megastar 10mm and the RIA 1911-A2 fs hc Ultra 10mm. I'm looking at something affordable that isn't a polymer framed handgun. I don't want to drop 1000-bucks on a hole puncher.
Get them both. Problem solved. Can't have too many 10mms.
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I’ll chime in for the RIA.
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I’m not into the 10mm but I do appreciate the power.
If I ever got one now it would be a Glock 29 just for bears, but I’m covered with .44s.
Only Black bears here and none to be overly worried about. That 29 would be more than enough.
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I love my Rock Island, buy the RIA 1911-A2. No problems in 4000 rounds.
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