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Guys I recently bought a Buck 110 knife, such a classic icon! Then I thought about my Ruger Mk IV Standard and how it would look with the knife in a photo!



What a classic looking pair this is!! Just got done shooting the Ruger at the range. Guys, this pistol is STUPID accurate!! With fixed sights and the gun totally stock, I was making nickel-sized groups at 10 yards offhand standing with Browning 40 grain bulk pack ammo. POA/POI are perfect and the trigger crisp and clean. This is THE most accurate pistol I have ever owned, PERIOD. I’d imagine benched and with ammo the gun likes it could cloverleaf at this distance. A better small game field pistol I don’t think you could find, and the legendary Buck 110 makes a great companion for it!!

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They look great together. I recently bought a Mark IV Lite, but wish I had gotten the Mark IV Standard. Enjoy that pair!
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It's still the best configuration of the .22 Ruger pistol.

You can keep your bull barrels, extra long barrels, extra long bull barrels, fiber optic sights... you name it.

With ergonomics very close to the very ergonomic P.08 Luger. That dime grouping should be the norm at 25 yards, even though my shooting is done at 25 meters.

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Que buena agrupacion para esa Parabellum 1908.
Buena punteria!!!!
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Que buena agrupacion para esa Parabellum 1908.
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My 50th Anniversary Standard Auto is an impressive shooter as well. It also has the nicest factory trigger I've ever encountered on a Ruger 22 Automatic!

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Dave,que buena punteria,ya sea con la Ruger o el S & W Masterpiece,felicitaciones.
No dejes de practicar!!!
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Hola! Bueonos dias senor! No habla Español! Muy poquito!
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Dave, what good marksmanship, be it with the Ruger or the S & W Masterpiece, congratulations.
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The Ruger MK III is maligned in some quarters, but since I never had a MK II, I guess I don’t know what I am missing. In any case, it is more accurate and easier to shoot well than any other gun I own. It also lends itself to photographs with bladed tools, here a Condor Golok.
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It's still the best configuration of the .22 Ruger pistol.

You can keep your bull barrels, extra long barrels, extra long bull barrels, fiber optic sights... you name it.

With ergonomics very close to the very ergonomic P.08 Luger. That dime grouping should be the norm at 25 yards, even though my shooting is done at 25 meters.

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That 's a really nice group for 25 meters and a standard Luger. Congratulations!

What ammo did you fire?

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That 's a really nice group for 25 meters and a standard Luger. Congratulations!

What ammo did you fire?
The ammo was ... Winchester white box. Those were boxes of 100 rounds that my club bought in 2010. I tried them, and they showed potencial (there is a video on youtube from one of my practice sessions around), I sorted them out by weight and they really excelled. I bought a large quantity of them that last me about five years. After they were mostly gone I tried a new batch... And they were lousy. They worked flawlessly, but accuracy wasn't there anymore. Whatever they changed, they really blew it.

Edit. Because of that I was forced to reload again for 9mm. Not an easy caliber to reload for absolute accuracy(at least not by me.) for reliability only and IPSC accuracy level it's quite easy though.
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Do you know if Euro 9mm is typically loaded hotter than US 9mm not designated as Plus P? We hear strong rumors in the USA that American 9mm is sometimes loaded so light that it won't operate Lugers reliably.

My own 9mm experience is limited to CZ-75B, Browning Hi-Power (3 examples), and a Beretta M-92FS.
All were reliable and quite accurate. I fired someone else's S&W M-39 one day and was appalled at the poor accuracy. It did not encourage me to buy an S&W auto. I gather that the .45's are better, like the M-4506,but they don't fit my hand well and feel awkward.

I think my best accuracy has been with Federal's No. 9BP load, a standard pressure 115 grain JHP round that has a good street record. Lately, I've bought Federal HST 124 grain Plus P and Speer's Gold Dot 124 grain Plus P. These aren't for normal range use, but are on hand for defense. I'm pretty confident they'd be quickly lethal on raccoons or coyotes or cougars as well as men.

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Definitely classics, and a nice pair.


My Mark II Standard is good for busting dirt clods on the 50 yd berm at my local range.


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Those Ruger Mark series .22s (even the Mark IVs) are so classic looking. The knife ain’t bad either.
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Do you know if Euro 9mm is typically loaded hotter than US 9mm not designated as Plus P? We hear strong rumors in the USA that American 9mm is sometimes loaded so light that it won't operate Lugers reliably.

My own 9mm experience is limited to CZ-75B, Browning Hi-Power (3 examples), and a Beretta M-92FS.
All were reliable and quite accurate. I fired someone else's S&W M-39 one day and was appalled at the poor accuracy. It did not encourage me to buy an S&W auto. I gather that the .45's are better, like the M-4506,but they don't fit my hand well and feel awkward.

I think my best accuracy has been with Federal's No. 9BP load, a standard pressure 115 grain JHP round that has a good street record. Lately, I've bought Federal HST 124 grain Plus P and Speer's Gold Dot 124 grain Plus P. These aren't for normal range use, but are on hand for defense. I'm pretty confident they'd be quickly lethal on raccoons or coyotes or cougars as well as men.
The only American 9 mm I tried was the Winchester. It's 115 gr load clocked in the 1100 - 1130 fps range, more than enough to operate the Luger. Sellier & Bellot 115 gr load operates at a similar level. Geco 124 load is in the 1050 fps range(wich is very close to the original 1902 specs of the 9mm. Those velocities were measured in my Byf 41.

I don't know where the myth of Lugers needing "hot loads" came from. My Byf starts operating reliably at around 950 fps with a 124 gr bullet.

I also have used, in the past, our military load (no longer made), it was on the "warm" side pushing a 115 gr bullet to 1250-1280 fps. It was very accurate.
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The only American 9 mm I tried was the Winchestet. It's 115 gr load clocked in the 1100 - 1130 fps range, more than enough to operate the Luger. Sellier & Bellot 115 gr load operates at a similar level. Geco 124 load is in the 1050 fps range(wich is very close to the original 1902 specs of the 9mm. Those velocities were measured in my Byf 41.

I don't know were the myth of Lugers needing "hot loads" came from. My Byf starts operating reliably at around 950 fps with a 124 gr bullet.

I also have used, in the past, our military load (no longer made), it was on the "warm" side pushing a 115 gr bullet to 1250-1280 fps. It was very accurate.

Thanks. But if that load is no longer made, what do Portuguese forces use in pistols? And which pistol is now standard?

I've read that after the Spanish pistol makers closed, Spain largely adopted the H-K USP, but I've no idea if Portugal followed suit. The last I know of, your country was issuing Lugers and P-38's. Don't know if the P-38's were postwar versions.
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Thanks. But if that load is no longer made, what do Portuguese forces use in pistols? And which pistol is now standard?

I've read that after the Spanish pistol makers closed, Spain largely adopted the H-K USP, but I've no idea if Portugal followed suit. The last I know of, your country was issuing Lugers and P-38's. Don't know if the P-38's were postwar versions.
I think they are buying Sellier & Bellot 124gr NATO, but I'm not too sure.

Our current service pistol is still the P.38. It's the early post war version(alloy frame but not with the reinforced slide), we adopted it in 1961.
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Hola Kurusu,*puede ser que la policia en Portugal siga usando la Walther PP en calibre 7.65 mm?.
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Hola Kurusu,*puede ser que la policia en Portugal siga usando la Walther PP en calibre 7.65 mm?.
Not anymore. They are using Glocks in 9mm now. But I think the PP pistols are still on inventory.
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Thanks guys! I redid the photo in my OP under better lighting and with another Buck 110 with nicer wood figure.
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