I keep looking for a 1911 Commander, good quality, made in USA, with classic lines that I can actually afford.

Well, it's here. Auto Ordnance finally made one. I like the classic lines, the arched msh with lanyard loop, the low key rollmarks on the slide and that it's made in USA.






https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/co...lack-finish-1/

I trust the Kahr Firearms Group, have several products and can't complain. So I'll probably buy one, put some different sights and grips on it and call it a day.

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Jorge

May it provide years of safe fun. I really like the ATI 9mm Commander too

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The Auto Ordinance " Pit Bull" 45ACP, has been around for a while.


Officers Model with full length grip frame, & guide rod.



I picked it up at the Indy 1500 show earlier this year, was gonna' use it as a base for a custom 1911, but it shoots too damn good as it is.

Ned

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I believe they were made before the Kahr ownership, but I'm not 100% sure.

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The ZG-51 Pit Bull model was made well before Kahr Arms bought Auto-Ordnance.

I'm primarily a Colt guy in the 1911's category, but have to say - the RIA's are an excellent value. Without strong intentions to do so, I've accumulated a couple of Philippine guns - a Chas. Daly in .45 5" (really just a dressed up RIA) and a RIA Govt Model 5" in .38 Super.
Each of these were bought with the idea of 'beater-woods duty' in mind and each shoots and functions far better than the price would imply.

The first of the pair I acquired was the Chas. Daly, and since I mentioned I was a Colt guy I was a little miffed that it ran and shot as good as any of my Colts, and better than one of'em. Not supposed to happen!

Enjoy yours.

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I just traded into this Colt Combat Commander 9mm. I think it's gonna' work out fine...

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if yawl don't mind at what distance do yawl tend to shoot 1911's in 45ACP,
i've been reading different post on this site but none i've read so far don't tend to give the distance that different people shoot at, thanks

Most people, like myself, use them to 25 yards regularly, but I know 3 people that use them on clay birds (laying on the berm, not flying!) at 100 yards. That's 4 inches at 100 yards. Most gun's won't shoot that good! But 8 inches or better at 50 yards isn't that uncommon!

Ivan

My 2004 new auto ordnance 1911@1 us army clone has been out standing for thr cost of $389. We hammered it at the range non stop. We totaled 650 rods thru it. I was torn between the new AO USGI clone or the new SA gi mil spec for $424. I went back and bought both.

I shoot at minimum 25 yds to 100 yds for handguns. My norinco project 1911 will shoot clusters and cloverleafs at 25 yds. I did fit a new surplus barrel with a new national match barrel bushing. As I fitted the barrel to the bushing when it got close I lapped them together for 100% lockup.

Ruger 1911 commander can be had around the $650 range in a few different configurations and colors. Great gun, well made in the U.S.A.

Ruger(R) SR1911(R) Commander-Style Centerfire Pistol Model 6702

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Ruger has what I consider an advantage over almost all other 1911's. Ruger casts the plunger tube as a part of the receiver, instead of staking the plunger tube onto the receiver. My Colt Delta Elite did have its plunger tube come loose, so I know it can happen, but that's not possible with the Ruger.

I have been very happy with my full size AO 1911 A1





I shoot mostly at 25 meters

ATI and RIA both make a variety of bargain 1911 variants. Both reputed to be excellent pistols. I've seen base model Springfield Armoury 1911s advertised for about $100 More. For another $100 you are into Rugers lineup. Remington falls in there somewhere but w their company's problems I'm a bit leery of them.

My thought is spend the extra $100 over ATI or RIA for a Springfield. I've owned a number of Springfields (Still do have 5 different models) and never had a problem with any of them both out of box and over time. I've never owned a RIA but they have a good rep. I bought an ATI to try my hand at basic gunsmithing but it's still in the safe. It looks good but until I start shooting it, I don't know. I think Springfield will hold value better if you decide to upgrade.

In higher featured pistols Springfield is the best for the money. You can get different packages. The only thing that irritates me is their naming of packages is inconsistent. For instance their Range Officer started off as a basic target model in either 45 or 9. When those guns sold well, now every model seems to be called some flavor of Range Officer, some target others carry type guns.

Colt is Colt. Top dollar until you get to high end stuff. As always hit or miss on quality out of the box. I've had good ones and bad ones.

Kimber Gen 1 guns good. Later production when they started trying to make price points to be slightly higher than Ruger not so good.

Taurus wouldn't touch one. I've had some less than snobby gunsmiths tell me that they are soft and will beat themselves to death if you shoot them a lot.

S&W 1911s reputed good and no reason not to believe that BUT at that price, I'd buy a Springfield and have money left for good magazines and ammo.

Finally any 1911 is only as good as its magazines. McCormick and Wilson (my preference) work. I have 3 boxes of 1911 mags:
1. Wilson's that work;
2. Colt 9mm mags that work but only because when I started accumulating them Wilson didnt make a 9mm mag; and
3. The mags that came w the pistols that only go to the range. Some work others are really iffey.
For your carry mags buy 3 Wilson's or McCormicks and use the factory mags at the range only.

I have a Springfield 45 that is beautiful, does not "rattle", and is more accurate than I can shoot.
Totally authentic for my use.

Most of my "fun" shooting or IDPA matches runs from the 7 yard line to 25 yards. This would involve either my Series 70 Government Model, my Ruger 1911CMD or my ATI 9mm Commander (purchased with the intent of converting to 38 Super). This could be silhouettes or 25 yard bulls.

For formal match shooting, I shoot both cast SWC and plated SWC at 25 and 50 yards. [Twenty-five yards are timed fire (5 shots in 20 seconds) and rapid fire (5 shots in 10 seconds), fifty yards is slow fire (10 shots in 10 minutes).] I shoot the cast bullets (powder puff loads) for NRA precision pistol (formerly 2700) and the plated bullets a bit hotter for CMP leg matches.

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