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If they do produce a new Python at least it won't have an internal lock...
New Colt Python for January 2020?
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I'll be watching closely...I have several of the older snake guns
At $2k + per copy I am going to be REAL, REAL SLOW to shell out.
I'll be visiting the Colt booth at SHOT. Problem is it keeps getting smaller and smaller, making it harder and harder to find. To avoid a "bashing" infraction, I'll just leave and that. 
+1. I bought my first firearm, a S&W M-36 (to back-up the M-28 my Dad gave me when I left the Army) in 1976 and IME S&W's have always been affordable. I gave $123 for that M-36 and the following year $289.50 for my M-29. M-10's were in abundance and were priced a $119 (I wish I would have bought a few).
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Way to miss the mark, Colt! A bunch of fancy King Cobras for the hoi polloi, and a handful of "real" guns for collectors with deep pockets that will promptly lock the gun down with a zip tie and sock it away in the back of the safe. Just like they do with the new production SAAs.
We wanted a Python that looked and felt like the originals for somewhere between $1000-$1500 (let's be realistic here...they weren't going to be $400) that we could shoot the snot out of knowing there were thousands more just like it, and Colt completely whiffed.
We wanted a Python that looked and felt like the originals for somewhere between $1000-$1500 (let's be realistic here...they weren't going to be $400) that we could shoot the snot out of knowing there were thousands more just like it, and Colt completely whiffed.
Miami_JBT
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They're testing the market. They know diehards will snub the gun since it won't ever pass a purist's test. They already experienced that with the current production Cobras. But they're pricing them just enough to see if the name will sell them at the higher price. And honestly, $2.5k is cheaper tha a used similar condition original Python.
If the guns don't move, they'll either lower the price, or drop them altogether. If every one of them is snatched up by a collector. They don't give a damn. They sold them and made their return on initial investment.
S&W does the same with their Classic Line. A bunch of knock off fraud clones of legit guns. They sell very well and people pay the prices they ask.
I have three 6 inch Pythons. Last one I got last year for $600.
WOW! 6 beans... I'm looking in the wrong places.
This is the Python without the vented rib. It's a model 357 from 1954. This model was the immediate predecessor of the Python with the same hand fitting and finishing. Much rarer than than a Python, this particular one is a very early production model with the rounded sight leaf, duo-tone finish, and polished, un-blued muzzle. 15k made from 1954-61 vs. about 600k Pythons.
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So, program the CNC machine to cut some slots in the barrel rib, stone some surfaces on the inside and polish the outside. Put on appropriate grips, change the rollmark from King Cobra to Python, and voila, a $1000 gun becomes a $2300 gun.
I'll step up and call a BIG BS on that one! That's not even a good try!I have three 6 inch Pythons. Last one I got last year for $600.
Much prefer the S&W action..... I'd spend 1/3 the $$$s and find a really nice early 586.
IMHO they look just as good .............. and probably a lot less of them were ever made.
IMHO they look just as good .............. and probably a lot less of them were ever made.
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Credit to Colt for a new line of revolvers. Good business sense to use the name recognition afforded by legendary products. They will sell as many as they can produce. I bought a 4" Python for $600 two years ago, it is no creampuff but that's what I paid. As to a new one, I collect S&Ws and try to confine myself to that brand.
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Miami_JBT
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Can you post a larger image? That thing is tiny.One of the first pictures just got leaked:
The standard model will not have a ribbed barrel. Gun has a polished SS frame and barrel. Laminated grips. MSRP of $2399. A ribbed barrel exclusive Colt's Collectors run is set to be released with an MSRP of $2799. The run will be limited to 500 guns.
The whole Colt factory is but a tiny grain of sand compared to the old Colt. There is a video of the history and current Colt out there on the Web. I am to lazy to try and find it. It actually is pretty amazing. The whole original Colt factory is crumbling. One of those, the whole town survived due to the company, heck they had housing for workers. Made everything in house!
Oh heck I found part I
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eij9GxSaIYw[/ame]
It'll be an interesting show to watch, the way people have been salivating for a new Python. The exception being guys who own old Pythons and see their demand, (and value), possibly go in the tank. There were many who roundly mocked those of us who purchased new model Cobras and Kings for buying overpriced, not nearly as good copies of classics. We'll see if the new Python's considered reasonable.
hkcavalier
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You're giving Colt a lot of business acumen credit that they haven't earned. Sure, they're not going to do a Ruger and pack every gun store with their product from Day 1. The age of the big revolver as every man's go-to handgun is long gone. They already have established their playbook with the SAAs. Just enough to satisfy demand. It wouldn't do to have bunches of Pythons in the CDNN catalog for $999 because they made too many.
I guess it's another matter of opinion, but to me the Classics are sort of like the new Dodge Challenger. All the look of an old one but with a warranty and you can buy new. Doesn't make them desirable to me...for many of the same reasons I don't want a new Challenger.
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I was watching a youtube video from the Yankee Marshall and he let it slip that they were re-releasing the Python.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzIXXgLAi4s[/ame]
Sort of aligns with the recent Colt comments regarding discontinuation of sales of AR's so they could work on some other things. YMMV
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzIXXgLAi4s[/ame]
Sort of aligns with the recent Colt comments regarding discontinuation of sales of AR's so they could work on some other things. YMMV
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hey to each his own...
Id prefer to spend the $2K in the S&P 500....
Not a Colt fan-just not for me.
I'd much rather make loud noises w my 686
Id prefer to spend the $2K in the S&P 500....
Not a Colt fan-just not for me.
I'd much rather make loud noises w my 686
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They did, it was called a Diamondback
Fishinfool
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My mistake, meant to say "Cobra" frame. Come to think of it, a REAL re-introduced Diamondback .22 would be nice....
Larry
Colt also suffers from union workers unless something has changed. Someone has to pay their demands.
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The single grainy photo (if of the new Python) appears to be a variation of the current Cobra, with a full lug barrel. If so they may have a hard time selling these at $2K plus.
Miami_JBT
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Colt pulled out of the civilian AR market since they have over a sales quarter worth of inventory sitting on shelves. The market is in an AR gult. They can't compete against sub $400 ARs that PSA is churning out.
The market is heavily depressed right now and major distributors have gone out of business and mkre are soon to follow.
I'm not a Python fanboy, but I recognize it's appeal in spite of the shortcomings.
Manufacturers in the firearms industry, every now and then, realize that on occasions in the past they created a product that went on to become an icon. More often, these same manufacturer themselves are simply a reorganization of a previous company of the same name.
Marketing almost dictates that said icon will be reissued.
A few "case in points":
-S&W Classic series
-SIG USA P210
-Mauser P08 Parabellum "Luger"
-Almost everything made of blued steel and walnut with the name "Wnchester" or "Browning" on it.
Every time it happens, people ask "How will it compare to the original?" And, "How will it affect the value of originals now that they are collector items?"
The answer to the first question is variable, and highly objective.
The answer to the second question is, almost without exception, the originals continue to climb in value.
Jim
PS: the answer to the second question is, to a degree, somewhat a commentary on the first question...!
Manufacturers in the firearms industry, every now and then, realize that on occasions in the past they created a product that went on to become an icon. More often, these same manufacturer themselves are simply a reorganization of a previous company of the same name.
Marketing almost dictates that said icon will be reissued.
A few "case in points":
-S&W Classic series
-SIG USA P210
-Mauser P08 Parabellum "Luger"
-Almost everything made of blued steel and walnut with the name "Wnchester" or "Browning" on it.
Every time it happens, people ask "How will it compare to the original?" And, "How will it affect the value of originals now that they are collector items?"
The answer to the first question is variable, and highly objective.
The answer to the second question is, almost without exception, the originals continue to climb in value.
Jim
PS: the answer to the second question is, to a degree, somewhat a commentary on the first question...!
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Miami_JBT
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Seven firearm distributors went out of business in 2019. More than likely two more will follow suit in early 2020. The entire industry is running on razor thin margins with very little profit. Several major manufacturers have already announced price increases effective 1/1/2020. Colt is trying to stay in the game and be competitive.
Don't miss it at all
Sold my 1971, safe queen Python about 6 years ago. Asked and got $2,600. It was shot but very little, watched the value on it (and my other Colt's) just headed for the moon, and decided to cash in all the prancing ponies and move full time to Smiths.
More fun, can all be shot, carried, balance and point well for me, holster, grip choices abound, and even ventured into a couple engraved specimens along the way (so far).
Like the title says.....I don't miss it a bit. Somewhere back around 1965 or so I had a friend who was in a richer than most family and bought a brand new street version Shelby Cobra...the "real" thing. I rode in that car...what a beast! Fast forward bucoo years when some "disposable" income came my way and "real" Cobras were $100K and up, but kit cars could be made up that looked like it, smelled like it, drove like it (still a beast w/427 side oiler), for about $35,000.
I really came close to pulling the trigger, but when all said and done........it wasn't real.........close but no cigar. Glad I went into firearms and never looked back.
Personally the Python was, and still is, a classic fine piece of precision mechanical work, but I see the same craftsmanship in most all of my collection of Smith & Wesson fine handguns.
To each his own.
Merry Christmas to all, and a happy, safe and prosperous New Year.
Sold my 1971, safe queen Python about 6 years ago. Asked and got $2,600. It was shot but very little, watched the value on it (and my other Colt's) just headed for the moon, and decided to cash in all the prancing ponies and move full time to Smiths.
More fun, can all be shot, carried, balance and point well for me, holster, grip choices abound, and even ventured into a couple engraved specimens along the way (so far).
Like the title says.....I don't miss it a bit. Somewhere back around 1965 or so I had a friend who was in a richer than most family and bought a brand new street version Shelby Cobra...the "real" thing. I rode in that car...what a beast! Fast forward bucoo years when some "disposable" income came my way and "real" Cobras were $100K and up, but kit cars could be made up that looked like it, smelled like it, drove like it (still a beast w/427 side oiler), for about $35,000.
I really came close to pulling the trigger, but when all said and done........it wasn't real.........close but no cigar. Glad I went into firearms and never looked back.
Personally the Python was, and still is, a classic fine piece of precision mechanical work, but I see the same craftsmanship in most all of my collection of Smith & Wesson fine handguns.
To each his own.
Merry Christmas to all, and a happy, safe and prosperous New Year.
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Well , I tell ya , I have mostly all smiths and just one colt . I like Smith's , their easy to work on . I do have an OM trooper , it's built on the same frame as the python, same internal mechanism . It lacks the vented ribbed barrel and the lustrous finish . I thoroughly enjoy it and would never sell it . If I can afford it I will gladly buy another Colt , one of the new ones would be fine . I'm glad to see Colt getting into the revolver business and I am very supportive of them . I'm not a Colt basher ,Regards, Paul
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